Genentic Profile Pakistan vs Indian - How different Pakistanies are from Indian Genetically

[MHAMZA]

Most of the today's white race came from Caucasus Mountains in Central Asia ..
Some say that the original and most pure of the genes is found in the black race..

 

[AhmadSaleem264]

I believe a single dna test can never never be generalized for Pakistan

 

[skinnylizard]

There might be some truth to what you have written but there are many true Syeds , Siddiques, Abbasis etc etc
Historically many descendants of the Holy Prophet PBUH and his companions did settle in the Sub Continent ..
kindly be more accommodating to the fact that not everyone is ashamed of their Hindu past.
And use their family/clan/tribe names such as Chohan, Changazi, Waraich ...etc etc

the only way you can be sure if you are from arab, Persian stock is if you take the DNA test, not hearsay because your surname is arabic you must be lol

read your history and youll find out under the Persian rule in india many hindus who converted to islam gave themselves Persian surnames like, mirza, baig, dhar, mir, butt, in order to get a higher social status, many gave themselves names like Syed etc for the same reason and we are talking millions of Hindus reverts not a few dozen people, i dont how many syeds came from the middle east and settles in india at that time and neither do you and for you to think millions of Arabs from the lineage of the prophet came and settled in India and the Indian syeds are descendants of the messenger is just laughable without tangible evidence, its a cynical attempt to disassociate yourselves to the fact you are indigenous from the continent and not from Persia or Arabia

 

[Vitamin_C]

Prophet Muhammad didn't have many decedents to begin with and most them were butchered by the Umayyads. Those who survived Karballah were hunted down and slaughtered/or imprisoned and prevented from having more offspring.

Probably 99% of Pakistan's who call themselves Syed, Abbasi, Siddiqui have nothing to do with Arabs.

There might be some truth to what you have written but there are many true Syeds , Siddiques, Abbasis etc etc
Historically many descendants of the Holy Prophet PBUH and his companions did settle in the Sub Continent ..
kindly be more accommodating to the fact that not everyone is ashamed of their Hindu past.
And use their family/clan/tribe names such as Chohan, Changazi, Waraich ...etc etc

 

[shujauddin]

Prophet Muhammad didn't have many decedents to begin with and most them were butchered by the Umayyads. Those who survived Karballah were hunted down and slaughtered/or imprisoned and prevented from having more offspring.

Probably 99% of Pakistan's who call themselves Syed, Abbasi, Siddiqui have nothing to do with Arabs.

Statically speaking if you apply any human growth population model, the amount of syeds that we have today in India/Pakistan cannot be justified. A very touchy and religiously sensitive topic- we better leave it there before we hurt religious sentiments. Thanks and much appreciated.

 

[skinnylizard]

Statically speaking if you apply any human growth population model, the amount of syeds that we have today in India/Pakistan cannot be justified. A very touchy and religiously sensitive topic- we better leave it there before we hurt religious sentiments. Thanks and much appreciated.

be honest with you some of these fake syeds need a dose of reality, they are too scared to even get a DNA test because they know most of what they believe is just delusion

 

[Aslan]

Why are you trying disown your indian-ness? are you suffering from an inferiority complex? Do you consider indians as subhumans? For your info India is not bharat....Indians have hijacked the name "india" and made it a synonym for Bharat becacuse of people like you you are bent on proving they are outsiders. India is the subcontinent and got its name from the Indus valley and the entire region is INDIA and Bharat and Pakistan are a part of it. If you are 50% tajik then go pledge allegiance to Tajikistan.....I havent taken a dna test...but as a proud Pakistani i hope im 100% Indian (not bharti).....I hope my ancestors are INDIAN from Indus Valley civilization which florished along the INDUS valley and NOT some invaders from some barbarian culture like monghols or turkish slaves....

He is not suffering from inferiority complex.Indians always assert that there is no difference between Indians and Pakistanis.There is a big difference between Indians and Pakistanis.Many different races passed through Pakistan or settled in Pakistan eg Scythians,Mongols,Arabs,Persians,Kalash,Sogdians) etc. I don't care if our DNA is similiar to some Indians.As of now we have nothing to do with Indians.Our religion.culture and way of life is different from Indians.Many English people are from northern European origin eg angl-Saxons,Vikings etc but they don't consider themselves German.

 

[Sohail Shuja]

Sorry but Pakistanis are not 100% Indian. Pakistan is sandwiched between Indian Subcontinent and Persian Empire. Most of the time we were a part of the Persian Empires and the rest we were independent Kingdoms.

Our official language for last 2000 years was Farsi. Until British arrived in Sindh in 1842 and later dismantled Ranjit Singh's empire. So modern day Pakistan wasn't even part of British India until after 1840s.

We do not have as much genetic intermingling with India as the rest of the subcontinent because we are separated from India by Mangroves, Thar Desert and Himalayas. The only major point of contact with India is the Potohar plains of Punjab.

The problem is that there had been invaders coming in from everywhere and genetic pooling is not a thing of some 1000 or 2000 years. Look at the archaeological finds of Mohinjo Daro, Harappa, Taxila and the areas of KPK, which are more than 33,000 years old. Does it make any sense that we find statues of Buddha in Afghanistan? then how did those people flee to the far east asia from Afghanistan and Taxila?

The Thar desert or "Roohi" is not something which the old civilizations have not crossed on the camel backs. Moreover, when Alexander arrived here, he left some greek genes as well. Then, for the past 100 years, there had been quite convenient modes of transportation, which have had facilitated more intermixing of races and the past three generations are a result of it.

 

[Vitamin_C]

A few people crossing the Thar desert on camels is not going to have that much of an impact on the Genome as large armies of 100,000s of soldiers, millions of traders and travelers through the Deccan Plains or the Potohar Plateau.

Its not the physical distance thats the bottleneck, but rather its the physical barriers that prevent a large number of people to cross. Such as large rivers, Oceans, Mountains, Deserts, Swamps etc.

FYI Mohenjadaro and Harappa are not 33,000 years old, they are 5000 years old.

The problem is that there had been invaders coming in from everywhere and genetic pooling is not a thing of some 1000 or 2000 years. Look at the archaeological finds of Mohinjo Daro, Harappa, Taxila and the areas of KPK, which are more than 33,000 years old. Does it make any sense that we find statues of Buddha in Afghanistan? then how did those people flee to the far east asia from Afghanistan and Taxila?

The Thar desert or "Roohi" is not something which the old civilizations have not crossed on the camel backs. Moreover, when Alexander arrived here, he left some greek genes as well. Then, for the past 100 years, there had been quite convenient modes of transportation, which have had facilitated more intermixing of races and the past three generations are a result of it.

 

[shujauddin]

A few people crossing the Thar desert on camels is not going to have that much of an impact on the Genome as large armies of 100,000s of soldiers, millions of traders and travelers through the Deccan Plains or the Potohar Plateau.

Its not the physical distance thats the bottleneck, but rather its the physical barriers that prevent a large number of people to cross. Such as large rivers, Oceans, Mountains, Deserts, Swamps etc.

FYI Mohenjadaro and Harappa are not 33,000 years old, they are 5000 years old.

correctly pointed out by you, infact Mohenjadaro and Harrappa were pre Hindu ( Arya) civilizations and much much older than Vedic history of India. But only a person who has interest and know history well would know these things.

 

[shujauddin]

A few people crossing the Thar desert on camels is not going to have that much of an impact on the Genome as large armies of 100,000s of soldiers, millions of traders and travelers through the Deccan Plains or the Potohar Plateau.

Its not the physical distance thats the bottleneck, but rather its the physical barriers that prevent a large number of people to cross. Such as large rivers, Oceans, Mountains, Deserts, Swamps etc.

FYI Mohenjadaro and Harappa are not 33,000 years old, they are 5000 years old.

correctly pointed out by you, infact Mohenjadaro and Harrappa were pre Hindu ( Arya) civilizations and much much older than Vedic history of India. But only a person who has interest and know history well would know these things.

 

[BrotherKantu]

مگر پٹواریوں کے ڈی این اے میں کھوتے کے ڈی این اے کی ملاوٹ کیسے ہوئی.



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[shujauddin]

مگر پٹواریوں کے ڈی این اے میں کھوتے کے ڈی این اے کی ملاوٹ کیسے ہوئی.



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chutto paira spotted. As usual, ammi kee shadi Imran say kerwa ker nach nach ker Mohalla sir per uthana wala agaya. This thread is not for you. Please leave this thread for the science oriented and intelligent people.!

 

[BrotherKantu]

chutto paira spotted. As usual, ammi kee shadi Imran say kerwa ker nach nach ker Mohalla sir per uthana wala agaya. This thread is not for you. Please leave this thread for the science oriented and intelligent people.!

A comparison of your genetic blueprints with that of the human genome shows that your closest living relative is chimpanzee and you share 96 percent of your DNA.

 

[Sohail Shuja]

A few people crossing the Thar desert on camels is not going to have that much of an impact on the Genome as large armies of 100,000s of soldiers, millions of traders and travelers through the Deccan Plains or the Potohar Plateau.

Its not the physical distance thats the bottleneck, but rather its the physical barriers that prevent a large number of people to cross. Such as large rivers, Oceans, Mountains, Deserts, Swamps etc.

Well, actually, I am quite confused by this theory of physical barriers, as far as I see the spread of human race around the world. Man is surprisingly surprising. Look at Eskimos, they have inhabited the most difficult regions of the earth and have a distinct gene pool.

However, I do like your notion of considering the Traders and Travelers, who also play a major role in distribution of genomes. Whether it be a one time gust of invading Armies or a few decades of travelers and traders across the borders, the results would be the same.

Now specifically looking at the geographic conditions of subcontinent, it is evident that we had a silk route in the regions of Karakoram, which is thousands of years old. Likewise, since the Sea Trade developed for more than a 1,000 years now, the routes from Central Asia to Multan and then into present day India is quite old (Ref: https://www.sahapedia.org/locating-sindh-the-trading-world-of-asia). Muhammad Bin Qasim came here in 712 A.D and before that, the Arabs used to have a trade relation with the Sri Lankans.

Therefore, it will not be quite befitting to say that the physical barriers, like these deserts of Roohi and the Mangroves would have had isolated a gene pool from the others. It might be true in part, but not wholly.

 

[Vitamin_C]

Its quite simple. Humans are able to cross dangerous areas and live in extreme places.

But the amount of people who will embark on such journeys is going to be significantly less than the people who move across the plains and easier routes.

So its not the case that there is no way to trek from India to China. But rather, its very difficult for millions of people to embark on such a journey therefore the Impact of gene exchange between the two countries is so less.

Similarly the Kalash tribe in Pakistan is also genetically exotic because of how remote their geographic location is. It didnt prevent the ancestors of Kalash from getting there, but it did mean that few people are able to get there and mix with them, therefore they have a different gene composition than other Pakistanis.

The distance between Lahore and Manipur in India, is twice the distance between Manipur and Sichuan, China. But the mountains in the way make sure that only a few people can cross as compared to the flat plains of Northern India.

Well, actually, I am quite confused by this theory of physical barriers, as far as I see the spread of human race around the world. Man is surprisingly surprising. Look at Eskimos, they have inhabited the most difficult regions of the earth and have a distinct gene pool.

However, I do like your notion of considering the Traders and Travelers, who also play a major role in distribution of genomes. Whether it be a one time gust of invading Armies or a few decades of travelers and traders across the borders, the results would be the same.

Now specifically looking at the geographic conditions of subcontinent, it is evident that we had a silk route in the regions of Karakoram, which is thousands of years old. Likewise, since the Sea Trade developed for more than a 1,000 years now, the routes from Central Asia to Multan and then into present day India is quite old (Ref: https://www.sahapedia.org/locating-sindh-the-trading-world-of-asia). Muhammad Bin Qasim came here in 712 A.D and before that, the Arabs used to have a trade relation with the Sri Lankans.

Therefore, it will not be quite befitting to say that the physical barriers, like these deserts of Roohi and the Mangroves would have had isolated a gene pool from the others. It might be true in part, but not wholly.

 

[Vitamin_C]

Chimpanzees are alpha AF

A comparison of your genetic blueprints with that of the human genome shows that your closest living relative is chimpanzee and you share 96 percent of your DNA.