Female Muslim Biologist on Evolution. American University of Sharjah
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Vitamin_C
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Dear Vitamin_C, the video posted talks about science and scripture and words muslim biologist are present in the heading of the thread. The link to what the quran contains in its pages is so obvious. Moreover if you have time please read through the links to see the connection between things we are used to seeing in isolation.
regards and all the best.
Vitamin_C
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Those links you have have posted are very large and very few people would actually read all of it, I would suggest make a shorter summary of the most important points that you want to convey. Thanks.
realitycheck
Senator (1k+ posts)
her views are no different to qadiyanis............... I dont know if qadiyanis have any influence in middle East
Mind_Master
MPA (400+ posts)
:lol:
If somebody talk sensibly then they are some how connected to Qadianies? What a waste of intellect !
I would appreciate if you read:
Many books have been available. Like Book Title "Last Ape standing", year 2013. Its described that there existed 27 species of Humans or human like creatures (Hominids). Evolution is a gradual process and being continued. We can not answer exactly because hundreds and thousands of years are needed to explain. And we don't have proofs for each year rather we have missing links. AFter doing my own research work on Drosophila, a fruit fly, and having much experience of many Universities. I'm convinced about Evolution. And Also that Adam was not the first Person rather Adam represents a group of people or human like people and were raised the status of advanced Humans with sense of consciousness. We are a part of matter, and every thing is matter on this planet. "Biological Matter" is basically a biological species (Human) which is frequently depicted in poetry like:
mitti wich mitti mil gyi
mitti kahay kumaar ko tu kia mjy rohay ikk din aa way jadd mn tuj ko roahay
way mitti dhiya baawia
Mitti or matter is actually the part of this earth and it has to be degraded sooner or latter. Our conscious or Rooh which is "Noor" and it has to stay, always. This conscious or rooh is in the form of energy. Law of Energy states that "Energy can be converted from one form to another but can not be destroyed". Rooh is temporary in this world dressed with matter (body) and it has to go to the next world (Alam). Due to this Allah says in Sura Faateha "Alham du Lillah hi Rabb il Alameen". Alame Arwah, Alam e dunya, Alam e Qabar, Alam e Hashar.... so here on earth Matter exists which can not be taken to the outside in time frame of reference. So A mattered-body can not be raised to Jannat.
Now a days, the biggest example of evolution being occurred is antibiotic resistance by certain Bacteria. The Bacteria can multiply within 30 minutes and widely used a model organism. Evolution is a continous process and always going on.
From religious point of view, I think religion is beyond boundaries. Science is just a little thing based on observations and then tries to interpret in its own confinement. Eiman Mufassal... Belief in Allah, day of judgement, Messengers, Holy Book, Angels.... we don't see if someone believes in evolution or not having an effect on his/her Eiman.
I have been posed a question by a non-Muslim why he should accept Islam. He has an ample quantity of Honey, hundreds of tastes of wine, bear and good quality milk in stores, having experienced with many girlfriends. Why he should accept Islam just for the sake of things which are already in his access.
For instance, 100 or 200 years back, Muslims could have asked this questions whether they could see the other city, or could use a motor car. Now a days, if we have internet, wifi, iPhones, iPads, etc etc if we can have facilities like this in Jannat?
May be after 100 years people would be flying, using chips, moving with chips, could see the whole things on virtual screens before them, and would have significant change of life style and demands as of today just we have different needs and demands compared to hundreds yrs before.
So, "Hoor", Honey, Milk canals are Metaphors. Actually the Arabs used to have slave girls (Londees), liquor/wine, milk, honey as the highest ranked and demanded things at that time of Arabs. Quran was revealed in Arabs so their culture was respected. Allah used these words as a Metaphor. Means thereby, maximum things or demands a man can have will be fulfilled and provided in Jannat.
Another thing, Why the verses are not in an order form. Allah Almighty would have made chapters of Quran like Salat, Roza, Human rights, Allah's right, Angels, Qiyamat, Prophets' stories, etc etc. Why? Because Arabs used to gossip randomly the same time about their horses, slaves, tribes, wines, figs, dates, wars etc etc. So Quran is revealed to let them understand according to their culture and them take the teachings of the Quran to the entire world.
Dr. Kashif
Many books have been available. Like Book Title "Last Ape standing", year 2013. Its described that there existed 27 species of Humans or human like creatures (Hominids). Evolution is a gradual process and being continued. We can not answer exactly because hundreds and thousands of years are needed to explain. And we don't have proofs for each year rather we have missing links. AFter doing my own research work on Drosophila, a fruit fly, and having much experience of many Universities. I'm convinced about Evolution. And Also that Adam was not the first Person rather Adam represents a group of people or human like people and were raised the status of advanced Humans with sense of consciousness. We are a part of matter, and every thing is matter on this planet. "Biological Matter" is basically a biological species (Human) which is frequently depicted in poetry like:
mitti wich mitti mil gyi
mitti kahay kumaar ko tu kia mjy rohay ikk din aa way jadd mn tuj ko roahay
way mitti dhiya baawia
Mitti or matter is actually the part of this earth and it has to be degraded sooner or latter. Our conscious or Rooh which is "Noor" and it has to stay, always. This conscious or rooh is in the form of energy. Law of Energy states that "Energy can be converted from one form to another but can not be destroyed". Rooh is temporary in this world dressed with matter (body) and it has to go to the next world (Alam). Due to this Allah says in Sura Faateha "Alham du Lillah hi Rabb il Alameen". Alame Arwah, Alam e dunya, Alam e Qabar, Alam e Hashar.... so here on earth Matter exists which can not be taken to the outside in time frame of reference. So A mattered-body can not be raised to Jannat.
Now a days, the biggest example of evolution being occurred is antibiotic resistance by certain Bacteria. The Bacteria can multiply within 30 minutes and widely used a model organism. Evolution is a continous process and always going on.
From religious point of view, I think religion is beyond boundaries. Science is just a little thing based on observations and then tries to interpret in its own confinement. Eiman Mufassal... Belief in Allah, day of judgement, Messengers, Holy Book, Angels.... we don't see if someone believes in evolution or not having an effect on his/her Eiman.
I have been posed a question by a non-Muslim why he should accept Islam. He has an ample quantity of Honey, hundreds of tastes of wine, bear and good quality milk in stores, having experienced with many girlfriends. Why he should accept Islam just for the sake of things which are already in his access.
For instance, 100 or 200 years back, Muslims could have asked this questions whether they could see the other city, or could use a motor car. Now a days, if we have internet, wifi, iPhones, iPads, etc etc if we can have facilities like this in Jannat?
May be after 100 years people would be flying, using chips, moving with chips, could see the whole things on virtual screens before them, and would have significant change of life style and demands as of today just we have different needs and demands compared to hundreds yrs before.
So, "Hoor", Honey, Milk canals are Metaphors. Actually the Arabs used to have slave girls (Londees), liquor/wine, milk, honey as the highest ranked and demanded things at that time of Arabs. Quran was revealed in Arabs so their culture was respected. Allah used these words as a Metaphor. Means thereby, maximum things or demands a man can have will be fulfilled and provided in Jannat.
Another thing, Why the verses are not in an order form. Allah Almighty would have made chapters of Quran like Salat, Roza, Human rights, Allah's right, Angels, Qiyamat, Prophets' stories, etc etc. Why? Because Arabs used to gossip randomly the same time about their horses, slaves, tribes, wines, figs, dates, wars etc etc. So Quran is revealed to let them understand according to their culture and them take the teachings of the Quran to the entire world.
Dr. Kashif
saneopinion
MPA (400+ posts)
You should stick with banning Shezan Juice and other "Qadiyani" products where you are from. This topic exceeds your ability of comprehension as evident from your comment above.
I disagree with her.
Counter Questions:
1:
Evolution happens but not the way she described. History has been recorded for centuries. What new specie has been evolved?
2:
If a specie is converted to another specie then where is a middle form of human and chimpanzee. If we could find the fossils of dinosaurs then why couldn't a single fossil was discovered of half man half chimpanzee?
Argument 1;
If all species were evolved from single DNA then it require very long time which exceeds the age of planet earth. Planet earth is only 6 billion years old roughly and and it was fireball in the beginning. For 1.5 billion years, no life could be existed because earth was cooling down. So for sake of argument, if new species began forming 3.5 billion years ago then this period is not enough to explain thousands of species that have formed so far.
Argument 2:
Human history has been recorded in many forms and all big religions are agree on the fact that Adam was the first Man on earth. As scientists estimated, the humanity is 200,000 years old. So we could say that Adam existed 200,000 years ago as per a rough estimate. So help me understand why humanity stopped evolving in last 200,000 years. But we see that evolution did happen not more than able to generate different skin colors of humans. But chromosomes in all skin colored cells are same 46. Like a black man has the same number of chromosomes as a white.
Argument 3:
It is a fact that a specie is different from another because of the number of chromosomes in its cell.
It has also been recorded that humanity was so diversed in the past before the nation states created. Which means people of different race have been married, like Asian and African, White and middle eastern, Korean and European and what not. But history didn't record any difference in the number of chromosomes in any of the new generation. Well, people didn't have scientific equipment in the past so they couldn't find out if there are people with different number of chromosomes but according to my knowledge people as we have today of different races have 46 number of chromosomes. If there were any human with different number of chromosomes in their cells then why scientists should be able to find that rare case.
Argument 4:
Finally, the similarity between the DNA code of two species doesn't mean one came out of the other or vice versa. If I am a computer programmer, people would fine similarity among two different codes written by me. But that doesn't mean one code came out of the other or other evolved from the first. Similarly, all genetic code were written by Almighty God which doesn't mean that one code came out of the other.
Conclusion:
Evolution happens but not the way scientists describe. A specie doesn't evolve into another specie because the number of chromosomes remain the same.
Counter Questions:
1:
Evolution happens but not the way she described. History has been recorded for centuries. What new specie has been evolved?
2:
If a specie is converted to another specie then where is a middle form of human and chimpanzee. If we could find the fossils of dinosaurs then why couldn't a single fossil was discovered of half man half chimpanzee?
Argument 1;
If all species were evolved from single DNA then it require very long time which exceeds the age of planet earth. Planet earth is only 6 billion years old roughly and and it was fireball in the beginning. For 1.5 billion years, no life could be existed because earth was cooling down. So for sake of argument, if new species began forming 3.5 billion years ago then this period is not enough to explain thousands of species that have formed so far.
Argument 2:
Human history has been recorded in many forms and all big religions are agree on the fact that Adam was the first Man on earth. As scientists estimated, the humanity is 200,000 years old. So we could say that Adam existed 200,000 years ago as per a rough estimate. So help me understand why humanity stopped evolving in last 200,000 years. But we see that evolution did happen not more than able to generate different skin colors of humans. But chromosomes in all skin colored cells are same 46. Like a black man has the same number of chromosomes as a white.
Argument 3:
It is a fact that a specie is different from another because of the number of chromosomes in its cell.
It has also been recorded that humanity was so diversed in the past before the nation states created. Which means people of different race have been married, like Asian and African, White and middle eastern, Korean and European and what not. But history didn't record any difference in the number of chromosomes in any of the new generation. Well, people didn't have scientific equipment in the past so they couldn't find out if there are people with different number of chromosomes but according to my knowledge people as we have today of different races have 46 number of chromosomes. If there were any human with different number of chromosomes in their cells then why scientists should be able to find that rare case.
Argument 4:
Finally, the similarity between the DNA code of two species doesn't mean one came out of the other or vice versa. If I am a computer programmer, people would fine similarity among two different codes written by me. But that doesn't mean one code came out of the other or other evolved from the first. Similarly, all genetic code were written by Almighty God which doesn't mean that one code came out of the other.
Conclusion:
Evolution happens but not the way scientists describe. A specie doesn't evolve into another specie because the number of chromosomes remain the same.
Vitamin_C
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Evolution is a fact and the only way we have to explain how it happens is the one tested by the scientific methods according to the technology we have today. But if anyone has a better idea of how it happens they can publish a journal article and have it peer reviewed by the scientific community, you will not only receive a nobel prize but will not have to work for the rest of your life.
We were not taught about this things in school and it does not sound very intuitive at first, it did not sound easy to understand for me aswel at first but once you start trying to understand how it works it all starts to make sense.
When you said a species suddenly converts to another species ie chimp to man, you remind me of myself when I was first starting to understand evolution but thats not how evolution works. I would recommend you to watch this video it will explain how evolution works and what it actually is. It also has alot of the answers to your questions in detail and is very interesting to watch.
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First of all I need to clarify again that there is no difference of opinion that evolution happened. The matter to be discussed is how it happened. The way it is described in the video is nothing new that I am not aware of. Changing DNA and number of chromosomes in nucleolus through natural selection is the base of modern theory of evolution. What I mean by the evolution is only changing DNA where number of chromosomes remain the same in all species. For our ease I will name the theory you're advocating as evolution-A and the theory I am advocating is evolution-B.
Again:
Your Evolution-A: Through natural selection, Changing DNA, Changing number of chromosomes in nucleolus and eventually new species become.
My Evolution-B: Through natural selection, Changing DNA, Same number of Chromosomes in nucleolus and no new species become.
It would be great if you could address my questions rather than trying to convince me with your ideas. The ideas you are presenting are not new for me. And if you clearly read my questions, I included the premise that evolution-A happened. I just asked the questions assuming that the premise is true. So I gave full space to anybody to answer the questions I raised on the ground where evolution-A is assumed to be true.
Now assuming the premise that A-evolution is true:
A generation took birth from chimpanzee's family which was closer enough to modern Humans. The next generation took birth which was closer more than the last generation to the modern day humans. And this process took time say for 100,000 years and human didn't even notice that their ancestors were monkey. Given that there were suitable environment for this process to happen. The question arises that if this process stopped in very distant past or it is still happening?
If it took 100,000 years to evolve human then 1000 years = 100,000*1/100 which is 1% of the total evolution ever happened. Which means 1% of the evolution happened in almost 1000 years. The bodies discovered as mummies and other human fossils that were discovered are more than 1000 years old. In fact the fossils found in Egypt are approximately 5000 years ago. The oldest DNA discovered is 45,000 years ago and scientists claimed that it's human DNA. How did they recognize it as human DNA because it wasn't very different from current day human DNA. I don't know if scientist counted the number of chromosomes in the cell or not but that's the only way scientists can differentiate the DNA's of different species.
http://phys.org/news/2014-10-oldest-dna-humans-global-trek.html
This fact shows that 45,000 years ago, human was human as it is today and it should be enough time to branch a new specie that comes after human being on the tree diagram of A-evolution. But why there is not any evidence of that shows that there is an evolved specie after human? Or explain me why on earth, the evolution stopped 45,000 years ago?
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Vitamin_C
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I just want to make sure you read my reply, under each of your questions I gave an answer and in one of the answers I mentioned that Humans did not evolve from Chimpanzee, Chimpanzee and Human both evolved from shared common ancestor. Let me know if you have read my reply because it seems like you have not because it does not make sense to repeat what I have already mentioned about human evolution, I mentioned that Homo did not evolve in 100,000 years but over 5 million years from a common ape like ancestor, in that time one pair of DNA has become defunct.
Can you please name the specie you think human evolved from? Just for future reference however it doesn't matter because that is not answering the questions I raised at the first place.
I am also not arguing how many years humans took to be evolved. Question is how far in the past do you think humans evolved as we know them today? And if humans are still evolving or not?
If humans are still evolving then is there any difference b/w the human of 45000 years ago(whose DNA was recovered) and the human of present time or their have been no change for 45000 years?
Now please educate me what part of these questions are non nonsensical to you?
Vitamin_C
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Argument 2:
Human history has been recorded in many forms and all big religions are agree on the fact that Adam was the first Man on earth. As scientists estimated, the humanity is 200,000 years old. So we could say that Adam existed 200,000 years ago as per a rough estimate. So help me understand why humanity stopped evolving in last 200,000 years. But we see that evolution did happen not more than able to generate different skin colors of humans. But chromosomes in all skin colored cells are same 46. Like a black man has the same number of chromosomes as a white.
Humanity did not stop evolving since 200,000 years. Archaic Homo Sapiens(now extinct) from that time are slightly different from homo sapiens sapiens of today. All specimens found between the period and today have been transitionary humans between the 2. Chromosomes are the same because it has just been 60,000 years since humans left Africa and that is not enough time for evolution to make large changes such as number of chromosomes.
Argument 3:
It is a fact that a specie is different from another because of the number of chromosomes in its cell.
It has also been recorded that humanity was so diversed in the past before the nation states created. Which means people of different race have been married, like Asian and African, White and middle eastern, Korean and European and what not. But history didn't record any difference in the number of chromosomes in any of the new generation. Well, people didn't have scientific equipment in the past so they couldn't find out if there are people with different number of chromosomes but according to my knowledge people as we have today of different races have 46 number of chromosomes. If there were any human with different number of chromosomes in their cells then why scientists should be able to find that rare case.
Again, its only been 60,000 years since humans left Africa and from archaelogical evidence it may have been just a group of less than 100 people that crossed the red sea, all Chinese europeans native americans etc are all decendents of those 100 people, and its only been 60,000 years. Had it been 1million or 5 million years then you would see the big changes.We branched off from common ancestors with Chimpanzee over 5 million years ago but we still have the same amount of chromosomes as chimps (24 pairs). Of course you will say no we have 23 pairs, but scientists discovered that we have 24 pairs, one of them is turned off over the millions of years and is still left over in our DNA!
Evolution is an ongoing process, but it does not proceed at a constant progress, sometimes its slower(for example fish) and it other times its faster(cambrian explosion). Again 45,000 years in human life is not enough time for big changes. If it were 4.5 million years then most probably you will get a completely different species as this was approximately the time it took for Homo species to evolve into different species. Although I will say it is highly likely, I wouldn't say it for sure because the theory states that evolution does not occur in a constant time scale as some happens faster than the other it depends on the natural situation.
I do not know when the current form of Homo sapiens evolved because it was a gradual process and its very vague about where to draw a line in the sand because its an ongoing process through out the years, but I would say anywhere from 100,000 to 10,000 years. But we are evolving still and every generation is an evolved form of a previous generation, you are copy of some traits of your father and some of your mother.
Human history has been recorded in many forms and all big religions are agree on the fact that Adam was the first Man on earth. As scientists estimated, the humanity is 200,000 years old. So we could say that Adam existed 200,000 years ago as per a rough estimate. So help me understand why humanity stopped evolving in last 200,000 years. But we see that evolution did happen not more than able to generate different skin colors of humans. But chromosomes in all skin colored cells are same 46. Like a black man has the same number of chromosomes as a white.
Humanity did not stop evolving since 200,000 years. Archaic Homo Sapiens(now extinct) from that time are slightly different from homo sapiens sapiens of today. All specimens found between the period and today have been transitionary humans between the 2. Chromosomes are the same because it has just been 60,000 years since humans left Africa and that is not enough time for evolution to make large changes such as number of chromosomes.
Argument 3:
It is a fact that a specie is different from another because of the number of chromosomes in its cell.
It has also been recorded that humanity was so diversed in the past before the nation states created. Which means people of different race have been married, like Asian and African, White and middle eastern, Korean and European and what not. But history didn't record any difference in the number of chromosomes in any of the new generation. Well, people didn't have scientific equipment in the past so they couldn't find out if there are people with different number of chromosomes but according to my knowledge people as we have today of different races have 46 number of chromosomes. If there were any human with different number of chromosomes in their cells then why scientists should be able to find that rare case.
Again, its only been 60,000 years since humans left Africa and from archaelogical evidence it may have been just a group of less than 100 people that crossed the red sea, all Chinese europeans native americans etc are all decendents of those 100 people, and its only been 60,000 years. Had it been 1million or 5 million years then you would see the big changes.We branched off from common ancestors with Chimpanzee over 5 million years ago but we still have the same amount of chromosomes as chimps (24 pairs). Of course you will say no we have 23 pairs, but scientists discovered that we have 24 pairs, one of them is turned off over the millions of years and is still left over in our DNA!
Evolution is an ongoing process, but it does not proceed at a constant progress, sometimes its slower(for example fish) and it other times its faster(cambrian explosion). Again 45,000 years in human life is not enough time for big changes. If it were 4.5 million years then most probably you will get a completely different species as this was approximately the time it took for Homo species to evolve into different species. Although I will say it is highly likely, I wouldn't say it for sure because the theory states that evolution does not occur in a constant time scale as some happens faster than the other it depends on the natural situation.
I do not know when the current form of Homo sapiens evolved because it was a gradual process and its very vague about where to draw a line in the sand because its an ongoing process through out the years, but I would say anywhere from 100,000 to 10,000 years. But we are evolving still and every generation is an evolved form of a previous generation, you are copy of some traits of your father and some of your mother.
realitycheck
Senator (1k+ posts)
Vitamin C
Your research is flawed on many levels, and you are proving others assumptions wrong by certain assumptions on your end as well, eg humans probably evolved from a few humans 60000 based on AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE ! really !!!! do you know much about how an archaeological EVIDENCE is formulated, and you really feel strong enough to quote that as evidence. I would suggest it at best as CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE if corroborated by any other authenticated evidence (good luck finding something more authenticated from 60000 yrs ago).
Besides, speaking of human evolution, I posted a link some time ago here about some math work from Quran suggesting timeline of creation of universe and this planet. I found Quran saying universe being 18 billion yrs old, with earth aged 1/3rd of this. Required a bit of math work, but it wasn't that difficult. If need be, I can dig out and post that data again. Point is, the conventional biblical theme about evolutionary timeline as depicted by testaments and believed to be representing all monotheistic religions is flawed (usually a few thousand years).
We do not know how evolution happened, and that's what Charles Darwin concluded as well. He suggested a few hypothetical scenarios, which stalwarts of science subsequently elevated to the level of IRREFUTABLE SCIENCE. What we do know is, the human, this planet and this universe are all very ancient things. For a start, the first human we know may not necessarily be the homo sapien that we relate to, Adam being a giant by many multiples of today's humans and living apparently for 1000 yrs himself. Between him and Noah (who lived for roughly 1 millennium himself) there were a few millennials. And we are only taking Adam and Noah still. The whole Indian mythology evolved afterwards, including Eshwar, Shankar and the rest, with greek gods evolving subsequently.
The bigger picture that I look at, under instruction of Quran and islam. I think human story could be dating back to millions if not hundreds of thousands of years. Just because we found a few skeletons in a cave dating back to 60000 yrs ago is not enough an evidence to explain how all humanity shrank to 10 heads and then evolved again ( I am speaking metaphorical).
Your research is flawed on many levels, and you are proving others assumptions wrong by certain assumptions on your end as well, eg humans probably evolved from a few humans 60000 based on AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE ! really !!!! do you know much about how an archaeological EVIDENCE is formulated, and you really feel strong enough to quote that as evidence. I would suggest it at best as CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE if corroborated by any other authenticated evidence (good luck finding something more authenticated from 60000 yrs ago).
Besides, speaking of human evolution, I posted a link some time ago here about some math work from Quran suggesting timeline of creation of universe and this planet. I found Quran saying universe being 18 billion yrs old, with earth aged 1/3rd of this. Required a bit of math work, but it wasn't that difficult. If need be, I can dig out and post that data again. Point is, the conventional biblical theme about evolutionary timeline as depicted by testaments and believed to be representing all monotheistic religions is flawed (usually a few thousand years).
We do not know how evolution happened, and that's what Charles Darwin concluded as well. He suggested a few hypothetical scenarios, which stalwarts of science subsequently elevated to the level of IRREFUTABLE SCIENCE. What we do know is, the human, this planet and this universe are all very ancient things. For a start, the first human we know may not necessarily be the homo sapien that we relate to, Adam being a giant by many multiples of today's humans and living apparently for 1000 yrs himself. Between him and Noah (who lived for roughly 1 millennium himself) there were a few millennials. And we are only taking Adam and Noah still. The whole Indian mythology evolved afterwards, including Eshwar, Shankar and the rest, with greek gods evolving subsequently.
The bigger picture that I look at, under instruction of Quran and islam. I think human story could be dating back to millions if not hundreds of thousands of years. Just because we found a few skeletons in a cave dating back to 60000 yrs ago is not enough an evidence to explain how all humanity shrank to 10 heads and then evolved again ( I am speaking metaphorical).
Vitamin_C
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Bro dont bother with your pseudo science because you will lose against evolution as evolution is a fact. Its not just archaeology that confirms evolution, its palaeontology, embryology, DNA, taxonomy and basically every each branch of biology that cross confirms with evolution. And evolution cross confirms them in return. If you say that evolution is wrong that means you say that every each branch of biology is wrong and that is preposterous. Darwin is not an issue anymore, at his time we had only a few branches of evidence ie fossil evidence etc... today we have new technology and new medical discoveries such as DNA and it is extremely accurate and proven to be a fact as every each prediction made by the theory confirms the result in every each branch in biology extremely accurately. In fact its one of the strongest and best proven theories in scientific community to day because there is so much strong evidence that confirms it(ever each branch of biology and some branches of other science such as carbon dating and geology) There is no question about it, even the pope has changed to official stance of Roman Catholicism to admit evolution is a fact and Adam and Eve is a metaphor. You can adjust your religion to science but you cannot adjust science to your religion. I would highly recommend you to watch that video I posted earlier on evidence of evolution on this thread you will learn many new things than I can tell you about here, but if a religious preacher tells you that evolution is just a theory and not a fact because it does not align with his version of his religion then he is lying to you so be prepared and dont let people fool us.
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According to you Archaic Homo Sapiens(now extinct) from that time are slightly different from homo sapiens sapiens of today.
The difference of sapiens is supporting the evolution I believe. If you want to prove the evolution you believe then support the change in numbers of chromosomes.
By the way, change in number of chromosomes happens discrete or continuous? Hypothetically what do you think happened when the change in number of chromosomes happened? The change occurred by 0.5, 0.3 0.8 or 3, 5, 8? Well, if we see number of chromosomes of any specie, they are whole numbers means discrete numbers without any point followed by a fraction. It proves that if changed occurred in number of chromosomes, it would be sudden. Means overnight the number of chromosomes changed in new generation. Which is also unacceptable for me because I know what happens if number of chromosomes change by 1. By any chance no human in 45,000 years was able to notice that animals are producing totally different animals. But here is another problem, the new animal produced with different number of chromosomes is always produced as a couple, means male or female so that they can reproduce more animal like them.
One more of your argument is that evolution happens at different speed according to the environment. There should be at least one specie for who the environment should be perfect to evolve. And again, new animal has to have different number of chromosomes to be labeled different specie than its ancestors.
I got tons of other arguments against the evolution you support. But I have one to wrap up the discussion.
You said that evolution-A is an on going process. Which means there should be still a part of the world where fishes are trying to crawl on the land and got their legs like wings in the process. But there are many islands and shores where we don't fine any Komodo. Komodo is mostly in Indonesia. So by your theory, Indonesia should be the place with high population of lizard like animals or the animals who are in the process of evolution. Come on fix up.
there might had been times when thing were evolving
we didn't see, we don't have any records of it
we have assumptions and not facts
but
everything is terminating and terminating rapidly
and we can see it, we have record of it and
it's fact,
so it's rational to think about today, about
tomorrow so that our kids could live in this
worlds as we did
we didn't see, we don't have any records of it
we have assumptions and not facts
but
everything is terminating and terminating rapidly
and we can see it, we have record of it and
it's fact,
so it's rational to think about today, about
tomorrow so that our kids could live in this
worlds as we did
