Faisala Aap Ka - 15th May 2011 - Naseem Zahra & Sharmila Farooqi & Salim Safi - Pak-US Relationship

[Faisla Ap ka]

 

[M javed]

Sharing with the Pak military in the affairs of the government is not in the interest of the country.

PP must not insist on it. It is dangerous and against all the norms of democracy.

We have to make difference between the gun and the rationale.

Those days are no more there when we used to think like we can do this we can do that.

We have to close all doors to such a foreign policy which led us to be a gun in the hands of America.

What we have to do is protect yourself and be neutral. Have good relations with our neighbors and find international friend who we can trust they will respect our sovereignty and integrity.

So far as we have seen, America is a dirty friend who is interfering us internally and externally and this is contrary to the international law of respect for peaceful co-existence and sovereignty of other countries.

There must not be military governments any more. There must be civil governments which are not formed by the foreign powers but purely through the popular vote. There must be strong and independent institutions who are not influenced by any political or military elements. There must be a strong mechanism of accountability which must bring about a strict rule of law without any discrimination.

 

[anyie1]

why this PMLN bundar( monkey ) is on every talk show now a days. i was thinking he will stop it after Hussan Nisar banged his head with the wall , but remember all these politicians are BAY gharat

 

[samy99]

Thanks asma shirazi nice programme.I like to emphasize couple of points since mr.kerry is in pakistan .Pak have to renegotiate the terror agreement with US in writting because many things are not in writting which are confusing the situation. first pak have to stop the drone attacks in fata area, if US complain fata area have militants crossing into afghanistan then tell the US when they cross into afghan area ,attack them with your drones because in fata area ,pakistanis are killed mercilessly by drones because no checks and pak is paying the price in the shape of suiside attacks.Either US give us the drones and pak will do the job which they will never do that,for sure.Second ,US wants pak to engage with Haqqani group, this is the same strategy they want to use against pakistan. If pak engage in war with haqqani group, who never fired a shot at pak army, US will have the chance to provide arms and money to them against pak forces like they did to TTP and also provide arms to pak army to fight haqqani group like they did in iran and iraq war.Pakistan have to understand their logic behind this demand because they will be start leaving in july but this region will bleed with muslim blood because thats what the "Zionist" policy is.Pakistan dont have the strong leadership at this time, the present govt is already their slave so who is gonna negotiate in real terms ,in the national interest .All the political parties should come forward and make a united agenda to talk with US. Its american's habit to bully us in the past which work for them but not now because pak survival is at stake.If pak stand up this time ,it will do a favour to this nation.PM and mr.zardari should think about the national interest while talking with the americans.Pak sacrificed a lot for US now US should have some human feelings for pak and its citizens.Pak will have to clear onething to US that pak will not be the ground for terrorsts ,pak will finish them if they are seen or caught in pak land.US have to talk with haqqani group who are the real stake holders. I dont buy the bull **** from hilory clinton that pak army fight with haqqani group ,when haqqani group will be in weaker position then they will talk to them. what kind of nonsense is this? To whom you are trying to make fool ? Obama is stuck in Zionist plan because they promised him a win in the next election.To win the next election they want a big blood shed in this region because to them "MUSLIM BLOOD" is cheap?

 

[samy99]

As for alqaeda members are concerned, ISI and CIA should share information with each other and go after them together .In Osama case ,ISI did provide the information to CIA but Obama tried to make the political mileage and went alone which created a trust deficit between the two.It should have been a joint operation. US should keep only small portion of CIA personnel but withdraw the most of them from pakistan.This is very important.As for the "Nato Supplies" each container should be charged at least 4 lakh rupees instead of 40 rupees.Our roads are t orn apart because of these heavy cogestion of container traffic.PM should have a frank talk about it.Pak is very much underpaid .

 

[digitalzygot]

LONG LIVE PAKISTAN
LONG LIVE PTI

PPP,PML-N my generations will never ever vote for them.

 

[Unicorn]

Sharing with the Pak military in the affairs of the government is not in the interest of the country.

PP must not insist on it. It is dangerous and against all the norms of democracy.

We have to make difference between the gun and the rationale.

Those days are no more there when we used to think like we can do this we can do that.

We have to close all doors to such a foreign policy which led us to be a gun in the hands of America.

What we have to do is protect yourself and be neutral. Have good relations with our neighbors and find international friend who we can trust they will respect our sovereignty and integrity.

So far as we have seen, America is a dirty friend who is interfering us internally and externally and this is contrary to the international law of respect for peaceful co-existence and sovereignty of other countries.

There must not be military governments any more. There must be civil governments which are not formed by the foreign powers but purely through the popular vote. There must be strong and independent institutions who are not influenced by any political or military elements. There must be a strong mechanism of accountability which must bring about a strict rule of law without any discrimination.

I agree with your opinion but who will bell the cat and how?

Mr. Safi mentioned that Pakistan needs to reestablish its policies including Kashmir policy because these policies are based on lies and falsehood he did not elaborate on it I wish he had.

It is the opinion of Americans that Pakistan is a dirty friend and they have a point.

 

[mush_pride]

good points by salim safi and naseem zahra but please do not invite this pmln goon. he is full of s**t

 

[M javed]

@Mr. Unicorn

India is enjoying and is highly conspirical under the umbrella of America.

This is very easy.

You have argued Pakistan is a dirty friend too.

I don't accept it.

Circumstances are changing.

America has to quit as they are losing in Afghanistan.

At times we (not India) were a dire need of America.

Then they did not find Osama in Pakistan rather said he has died.

Now they have said they have found him - it is all a game and an excuse to get out.

It is the change of time we have gone from a friend in need to an unfulfilling ally.

It is a lesson for us - we must no more be as their friends in need or those in an argument of fulfillment or deceit.

We were brought into this situation - India will do this India will do that - We will be converted to tora-bora. All that nonesense.

We did not have a democratic government at that time.

Nothing could have happened had we declared 'neutral'.

These were follies and fallacies of our own - Mr. Musharraf's cowardice or intrigue brought us to accept the pressure.

Otherwise the 'only-peace' would have been the best choice.

Money, arms and America are weapons which India is intriguingly using against us which is highly injurious to us.

This is our right complaint against India.

You might disbelieve on 'Bhagwaan' but we believe in him. This America, India, israeel, developed world, United Nations according to our beliefs can lose their weight but we have to wait until the controller comes into motion.

Perhaps now you will appreciate we are not a dirty friend.

Always those who take advantage of others are 'unfair' and 'dirty'.

Please try to see America in this perspective. Just think who said there were 'weapons of mass destructions' in Iraq and then used this paradox to attack them.

So far they have killed millions of innocent Iraqis.

If you save your own life and/or your own land, you are a terrorist.

But if from thousands of miles away, a nation based on pure falsehood attacks another nation, it is not terrorism.

Now a free judgement will be yours who is dirty - 'America' or 'Pakistan' please decide who has a pain in the ass.

 

[pakistanstube]

2nd May operation night Shermila was in close door meeting with Zardari at Presidency. What you thing Zardari is stupid to take emergency call that time. There is already emergency there.