Enough is Enough-no more india bashing

[diffrentkhan]

@to all respected members of this forum-
why we all r making this wonderfull forum a battale ground.there is lot of rubbish but few meaningfull remarks.we should understand one thing very clearly abusing eachother& disrespecting others cultrue & values is making no sense. What i feel here that pakistani members r allways wasting their energy to just show india,s loopholes.they keep themself busy to search indian social unjustice & others lowpoints.if they get their desired material, they share in this fourm.Motive could be to covince pakistani ppls that pak is supirior than india.how does this help pakistan,i don,t know. FOR EXAMPLE If some one try to made me happy that my neighbor is more destroyed than me & i feel good .u know its negative approch.
If i were in pakistan than i will definatly try to show pakistani ppls brighter side of india. why? coz to inspire young genration of pakistan i will show them how india is making great progress in IT sector.how good they r doing in medical.many other things i know whould inspir pakistani youngster to feel healty riverly with indians. this could help & encourage them do somethin possitive for their country. I believe pakistan got enormous amount of talent but no right dirction.So dear friend ,no more india bashing be posstive now & show some good things about india. I assure u if u have desire u find many inspirational things in india to share in this fourm

 

[Nepali Pandit]

Thanks Mr Khan for your positive approach. I believe that many people who visit this site are reasonable and moderate people. Not all of them comment on your post but i guess many of them would agree with you. Unfortunately many people who comment on India or Hindus are just ignorant or illiterate or people with difficult upbringing. As most Pakistanis are not born and brought up in multicultural society they are not used to respecting others faith or culture.
I hope this thread of yours doesn't get deleted. I hope your threads will help Pakistani Muslims to better understand Muslims of INDIA and promote normalization of relationship.

 

[sher_khan]

@to all respected members of this forum-
why we all r making this wonderfull forum a battale ground.there is lot of rubbish but few meaningfull remarks.we should understand one thing very clearly abusing eachother& disrespecting others cultrue & values is making no sense. What i feel here that pakistani members r allways wasting their energy to just show india,s loopholes.they keep themself busy to search indian social unjustice & others lowpoints.if they get their desired material, they share in this fourm.Motive could be to covince pakistani ppls that pak is supirior than india.how does this help pakistan,i don,t know. FOR EXAMPLE If some one try to made me happy that my neighbor is more destroyed than me & i feel good .u know its negative approch.
If i were in pakistan than i will definatly try to show pakistani ppls brighter side of india. why? coz to inspire young genration of pakistan i will show them how india is making great progress in IT sector.how good they r doing in medical.many other things i know whould inspir pakistani youngster to feel healty riverly with indians. this could help & encourage them do somethin possitive for their country. I believe pakistan got enormous amount of talent but no right dirction.So dear friend ,no more india bashing be posstive now & show some good things about india. I assure u if u have desire u find many inspirational things in india to share in this fourm

Its called having an opinion and conducting a debate or an argument.

I know that peer pressure is common in India and people are stopped from converting to other religions and celebrate valentine days, via violence. However, we Pakistanis are open-minded and allow people to speak their minds. Once the argument is placed we reply to it. This may be a eureka moment of an explanation for you but this concept is very common in parts of the world other than india. Hence when any Indians claim that india is better than Pakistan then Pakistanis have the courage to inform the Indians that that they are misinformed. Unfortunately, Indians take the incredible india, a false marketing statement a little too seriously.

Also, Pakistanis dont have to waste any energy on doing any research on the real unfortunate india which has 40% (over 400 million people) of the population below the international poverty line and over 200 million dalits enjoying the wrath of the developed india. The western countries show documentaries on these matters on a regular basis and show the pertinent issues on the news. It is common knowledge. And trust me these are not simply loop holes of India. Dont disrespect the unfortunate affairs of these people by labeling their state of matters as Indian loop holes. The millenniums of Indian caste system has immuned you from feeling sorrow for these unfortunate people. Unfortunately the muslims of india have also embraced and accepted the caste system as an unavoidable reality and are equally responsible for the appalling state of the Indian poor and low caste people.

Similarly, the massacres of Sikhs (operation blue star) and Muslims (Gujarat) dont warrant any research. These are well documented facts.

Furthermore, all of the sudden your morality takes a rise and you are preaching peace and understanding. How come your conscience does not come back from a vacation when Indians are bashing Pakistan, muslims and Islam? Did you, personally, not post a message indicating that Pakistan does not attract you anymore, to provoke the Pakistanis? How come you didnt say anything when people were posting messages that where ever there are muslims, there is a problem? Why did you not defend islam from the islam-bashers, when they insinuate that islam is a religion which can only be spread via sword and has been? Oh.. I am sorry to ask all these questions off you. I forgot that you are a bias person, an Indian and most likely an imposter of a muslim.

Lastly, Pakistanis are already aware of the talent they possess. They are already utilizing it. They dont need any help or suggestions from the bias Indians on how to put their talent to work.

You and other Indian cant observe the utilization of their talent because you are too busy in listening to some below par Indian music that was copied from some western country and sung by Pakistanis.

 

[sher_khan]

Thanks Mr Khan for your positive approach. I believe that many people who visit this site are reasonable and moderate people. Not all of them comment on your post but i guess many of them would agree with you. Unfortunately many people who comment on India or Hindus are just ignorant or illiterate or people with difficult upbringing. As most Pakistanis are not born and brought up in multicultural society they are not used to respecting others faith or culture.
I hope this thread of yours doesn't get deleted. I hope your threads will help Pakistani Muslims to better understand Muslims of INDIA and promote normalization of relationship.

Ironically, are you not the same guy who has been bashing islam and muslims by posting messages insinuating that islam was spread via sword? So much for the respect of other faiths.

Also, how come you don't post any messages to discourage the indians who are trying to provoke Pakistanis via their Islam, muslim and pakistan bashing posts?

I live in toronto, Canada. This part of the world is far much more multicultural than India will ever be. I get exposed to a lot of Indians. I don't see them as a gift to rest of the world. They are no more or less educated than the Pakistanis. Stop patronizing pakistani people. By the way there are lots of Sikhs in Canada. Majority of them obtained refugee status in Canada after the Operation Blue Star. So much for your multiculturalism in India.


I think that you will be better off by promoting your rhetoric of pakistanis being illiterate and living with lack of knowledge of the world, to platforms where your stance's authenticity does not get questioned. Your spreading of misinformation will not thrive here. You are better off making statements that you can justify.

 

[small4780]

Brother

Do you think there is progress in India in about the general improvements of Muslims in India? (RSP and VHP and BJP leaders openly admitted their atrocities as captured by Tahelka)

Do you think those who committed atrociites in Gujrat have been brought to books?

Do you think there would be any justice (not merely reports) for those who brought down Babri Masjid.

Do you think there will be any prosecution against those who burned down Samjhauta Express and also killed Muslims through bombings and blaming lashker e Tayyaba

Do you think there will be any Justice against those who massacred Kashmiris in Occuped Kashmir based on the bodies being discovered in mass graves

Do you think Muslim masses will be given equal status like other groups in India

Do you think police has stopped picking up Muslim youth and killing them extrajudicially with impunity

We will really praise India if we see any developments on their treatment of minorities. Who are now living as second class citizens. To further supress the Muslims who are around 30% of the population of India are being shown as only 12% of the population

 

[Guest]

MYTH OF UNITED INDIA

OVER TWO DOZEN FREEDOM STRUGGLES IN PROGRESS IN INDIA

Before the Muslim conquests to the Indian subcontinent, little was known about India or her dwellers. Historians concede the historical phase of India began with the Muslim invasion. Muslims were India's first historians. (Gustave Le Bon). Thereafter how the Muslims contributed to the culture of the Indian subcontinent, is all too well known. Muslim reign lasted for around 1000 years, before they met their waterloo at the hands of the British.

The English plunder of the Indian land is too gruesome for words. They robbed India of everything that there was, right from their gems and jewels to their culture and language. They went further. They mercilessly divided India along ethnic lines for the sake of their own convenience. The mess that the Indian subcontinent finds itself in today is a gift by her imperial rulers.

The rise of Hindus to the realm of Indian politics occurred while the British ruled. They had long served under the Muslim charge, and now saw their way to the top by licking the boots of their new gora masters. What a pity! They shamelessly stabbed their Muslim brethren in the back who in their rule of 1000 years had treated them as equals. Whereas the British enslaved them, brutally murdered them and trampled over their customs and values

But if nothing else, one is forced to acknowledge the shrewd mentality of these disciples of Chanakya. After the British departure from India had become imminent, these Hindu politicians began to chant slogans of right of self determination and liberation of India. Muslims, who by that time were well aware of the despicable aspirations of these politicians, had been insisting on the creation of an independent homeland. The Hindu politicians under the banner of congress played their cards very intelligently. They convinced the world to have single-handedly rescued their land from the clutches of their colonial occupiers only to have been beaten by a few traitors who in their greed for power imposed the dissection of their beloved mother India. Six decades onwards, they play along similar lines. Their politicians, media and intelligentsia are all part of an age long campaign to demonize Pakistan, a failed state plagued with terrorism and at the verge of a collapse. At the same time, they are quick to remind how India in all these years has risen as the worlds largest secular democracy, where people of all castes, religions, color and creed co exist in harmony.
Of course it all sounds very remarkable, especially when one looks at their thriving film industry, where the most notable names in the business are Muslims. In sports too, with the emergence of the likes of Pathans, Khans and Mirzas one is deceived into believing such professes

But if truth is to be told, this impression of Incredible India couldnt be more erroneous. William Dalrymple, the distinguished author of numerous works particularly involving the Indian subcontinent, notes, In the world's media, never has the contrast between the two countries appeared so stark: one is widely perceived as the next great superpower; the other written off as a failed state .He further adds, On the ground, of course, the reality is different and first-time visitors to Pakistan are almost always surprised by the country's visible prosperity. There is far less poverty on show in Pakistan than in India, fewer beggars, and much less desperation. In many ways the infrastructure of Pakistan is much more advanced: there are better roads and airports, and more reliable electricity. Middle-class Pakistani houses are often bigger and better appointed than their equivalents in India. Moreover, the Pakistani economy is undergoing a construction and consumer boom similar to India's, with growth rates of 7%, and what is currently the fastest-rising stock market in Asia.

It would take a fool to not to see the direction towards which India is headed. Far from being the next superpower or the sole ruler of the entire Indian Ocean, India is a country at the brink of disintegration. And not only because she has earned enemies due to a hostile foreign policy towards neighboring countries, and its desire to create hegemony in the region with the hope to expand her boundaries to include countries like Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Ceylon, Burma, Nepal and more to create a huge Indian empire, or Vishal Bharat. Its her Troubles at home that are most likely to drive India towards a fate similar to that of Soviet Union.

To say the Indians are unaware of the gravity of the issue would be untrue. They have paid a heavy price already at the hands of various existing sub nationalists and continue to do so. In 1984, Indira Gandhi, daughter of Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru and the then Prime Minister was assassinated by Sikh separatists. Such an event shouldnt have surprised the world, particularly after how Mrs.Gandhi dealt with the Sikh demand of Khalistan- a separate country for Indias Sikhs carved out of the (Indian) Punjab province. In September of 1981 a group of Sikh separatists had taken refuge in the Golden Shrine, one of the most revered shrines of Sikhism. Knowing that the civilian presence in the temple was in great numbers, Gandhi ordered her army to storm into the temple with full force to flush out the militants. There is much uncertainty over the exact number of causalities. Some estimates put it at 3000. Much to the despair of the Indian establishment, the Khalistan movement did not die with Gandhi.


this Artical will be continued

 

[masadi1980]

@different khan sb

Simply shame on you :lol: :lol:
How erroneously u potrating and analyzing things.

there is lot of rubbish but few meaningfull remarks.we should understand one thing very clearly abusing eachother& disrespecting others cultrue & values is making no sense.

Above mentioned things they not normaly do but they use to do.

FOR EXAMPLE If some one try to made me happy that my neighbor is more destroyed than me & i feel good .u know its negative approch.

You idiot. Who mentioned ever in this forum???? who said to you people are feeling happy due to mao and other groups working in india?? Who show gladness on Mumbai attacks?? Are you feeling we are currently in this situation??? on one hand we are collecting dead bodies of our owns and on other hand .. could we laugh at others????

If i were in pakistan than i will definatly try to show pakistani ppls brighter side of india. why? coz to inspire young genration of pakistan i will show them how india is making great progress in IT sector.how good they r doing in medical.many other things i know whould inspir pakistani youngster to feel healty riverly with indians. this could help & encourage them do somethin possitive for their country. I believe pakistan got enormous amount of talent but no right dirction.So dear friend ,no more india bashing be posstive now & show some good things about india. I assure u if u have desire u find many inspirational things in india to share in this fourm

OMG how anserine are you?? :oops: There are totally goosy statements you wrote. At first thanks God you are not in Pakistan, and there is no need to show people of Pakistan brighter side of India. Pakistanis are not blind or not ignorant they are much much talented and capable then you, and not only you got keyboard and mouse, Pakistan also has got internet facility, for your kind information ........ people know already very well how much shining is india. If you are depressed it doesnt mean Pakistani people are sick in front of Indians.

Proud to be Pakistani.

 

[Waffen SS]

I support this. No india bashing.

This is a typical punjabi mentality. No one in Sindh or Balochistan feels like this.

But then Pakistan is subservient to Punjabi-dominated establishment, this continues to happen.

Though we muhajirs migrated from india under tragic and violent circumstances, there is no feeling of hatred.

 

[commander]

I support this. No india bashing.

This is a typical punjabi mentality. No one in Sindh or Balochistan feels like this.

But then Pakistan is subservient to Punjabi-dominated establishment, this continues to happen.

Though we muhajirs migrated from india under tragic and violent circumstances, there is no feeling of hatred.

Come on brother, we are all Pakistanis why you are dragging Punjabies in every issue.
We need unity and comments like this will divide us more.
@ different khan
When people from India will criticize Islam and Pakistan, obviously they will get answer in India's bashing.

 

[Guest]

this is a Hindu man torturing a woman out in the open. Our Incredible India and World's Biggest Democracy more like Biggest SHAM DEMOCRACY. Where Minorities such as Christians, Muslims, Sikhs are Discriminated Against on daily basis. Millions of poor people "DALITS or Untouchables" have been alienated from the rest of the indian elite society just because SOME SO CALLED HINDUS Believe in a CAST SYSTEM. Out of 400+ Districts Indian Governement DOES NOT have CONTROL over 180 DISTRICTS where HINDU TERRORISTS ROAM AROUND GOING ON KILLING SPREAS. India now has about 19 HOME GROWN INSURGENCIES such as MAOISTS, ULFA, TRIPURA TIGERS, NEXALITES, DECCAN MUJAHIDEEN, TAMIL NADU ACTIVISTS and Many More Indian Army keeps raping women in ASSAM which is why Assamese have been becoming militants. India has been OPPRESSING People in PUNJAB and Kashmir where 500000 soldiers are stationed in a small area to control some 5 million people.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZahUTEh5hNs&feature=channel[/video]

 

[sher_khan]

I support this. No india bashing.

This is a typical punjabi mentality. No one in Sindh or Balochistan feels like this.

But then Pakistan is subservient to Punjabi-dominated establishment, this continues to happen.

Though we muhajirs migrated from india under tragic and violent circumstances, there is no feeling of hatred.

Your theory does not fly. I don't have a punjabi origin. If I had one, I would have been proud of it as well.

Good to see that there are all sorts of voices within Pakistan. Proves my earlier point. You must be the educated and reasonable Pakistani that NP was referring to. Specially, DK and NP must be very happy to see a fan of Hitler supporting their cause. May be DK and NP should have Modi's photograph for their avatars.

Once a poet uttered:
"Qhoob gouzray gee jub mil bethay gay dee-wanay doe"

 

[indiansher]

@ diffrentkhan
WELLDONE ! u r true face of modern mslims in india.ur bold comments stuning backword pakistani coz they can,t digest happy prospers muslims faces of india . one thing allways haunts pakistan thinktank if pakistani peoples came to know upcoming & florshing indian muslims than they can question the ideology of pakistan. today,s genration wants freedom & opportunities. In india if u have talent, sky is the limit. I don,t know much about pakistan but media reports suggests there is lot of boundation in the name of islam and obviously main opportuniy for youths geting there is join terrorist groups qualification needed for that is courage of performing sucide attack.

 

[sher_khan]

@ diffrentkhan
WELLDONE ! u r true face of modern mslims in india.ur bold comments stuning backword pakistani coz they can,t digest happy prospers muslims faces of india . one thing allways haunts pakistan thinktank if pakistani peoples came to know upcoming & florshing indian muslims than they can question the ideology of pakistan. today,s genration wants freedom & opportunities. In india if u have talent, sky is the limit. I don,t know much about pakistan but media reports suggests there is lot of boundation in the name of islam and obviously main opportuniy for youths geting there is join terrorist groups qualification needed for that is courage of performing sucide attack.

You are right about sky being the limit. If you are a muslim in india, sky is a limit for the atrocities that can be committed against you. The following report proves it:

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRGTlIdNLB0&feature=related[/video]

 

[Pakistani Lion]

I support this. No india bashing.

This is a typical punjabi mentality. No one in Sindh or Balochistan feels like this.

But then Pakistan is subservient to Punjabi-dominated establishment, this continues to happen.

Though we muhajirs migrated from india under tragic and violent circumstances, there is no feeling of hatred.

You seem to be the black sheep and the odd one out - Brother Sher Khan has summed it up beautifully all Pakistanis are speaking with one voice on this forum regardless of the origin so if I were you (God forbids!!!) I would die of shame...

 

[Malik495]

@differentkhan.
after sher khan's views about your mentality and approach i dont need to say a single word but still i wanna say that why you are enforcing us to get an inspiration from indian development in all sectors yes including all those sectors which sher khan mentioned :lol: .. i am so sorry differnt khan that the true pakistani never let his country down whatever the circumstances will be..if we are facing problems then there is no other argument against it tht this is becz of being a muslim nuclear power..you wont agree with this cz you even dont know what kind of game is being played in outer world.. you even dont know what kind of plans the west is planing against islam.. you even dont know what kind of unjustice is going on against muslims in all over the world.. cz you live in so peaceful and world economic power where all of your people have equal rights. :lol: . where poverty isnt existed, :lol: where all religion has ful freedom of speech, :lol: where unemployement is not a problem. where education is free, where health standard is so high. where viral infections can't spread due to clean and sweet water..if all these things are true what i have mentioned then still we dont need to make india as a role model...
why you underestimate pakistan.. why the hell you r thinking that pakistan is going be destroyed.... you dont know what kind of nation we have.. you even dont know what pakistan is capable of..
you are just trying to promote yourself as an indian.. and when you will be able to think as a muslim.. you wil definately like pakistani's also.. and i dont think so that time will ever come as your mentality shows...
dont wrry brother..you dont need to worry about future of pakistan cz we do have something that u dont have....

 

[jimpack]

Hello Differentkhan

Please do not waste your time convincing Pakistanis about India. Pakistan opinion does not matter what they think of India. India a very progressive and active country in the world map today.

Do not waste you time and energy with bunch of Pakistani users who just are ready with their old outdated thoughts and reasons about India. It does not matter a inch what they think about India. We do not rely on Pakistan for anything. Out progress is not determined by them

Every Country have their issues and they are capable enough to solve them.

Just enjoy whatever BS they write about India. It is very hard for them to digest somebody's progress.

naach na jane aangan teda

 

[taul]

Just enjoy whatever BS they write about India. It is very hard for them to digest somebody's progress.

naach na jane aangan teda

---Why does reality seem BS to ya'll :roll: unless it really is BS 8-)...Ya'll are Biggest hypocrites and loosers one after the other coming here and begging us like kids to be admirer of your country :lol: Delusional Introverts :ugeek:

 

[jimpack]

Just enjoy whatever BS they write about India. It is very hard for them to digest somebody's progress.

naach na jane aangan teda

---Why does reality seem BS to ya'll :roll: unless it really is BS 8-)...Ya'll are Biggest hypocrites and loosers one after the other coming here and begging us like kids to be admirer of your country :lol: Delusional Introverts :ugeek:

Taul, you and another two or three Pakistani users who are always ready with answers to everything. You guys just need to answer or say something about India. You have the most anti India views. You have a mental block with regards to India and cant think beyond the things you know or like to know. You think you guys are in a perfect Country and going gaga over your Country. No issues with that but you know the truth about Pakistan and its image in world today.

We are not in similar page with you about the realities of world today. We focus more on future than you guys just going round the circle about your past.

Also your view about our Country counts for Zilch.

Keep going about your absurd and stoneage thoughts. Actually i like the way you guys remove your frustration about India.

You can never remove India from your thoughts.

 

[niazi]

Just enjoy whatever BS they write about India. It is very hard for them to digest somebody's progress.

naach na jane aangan teda

---Why does reality seem BS to ya'll :roll: unless it really is BS 8-)...Ya'll are Biggest hypocrites and loosers one after the other coming here and begging us like kids to be admirer of your country :lol: Delusional Introverts :ugeek:

Taul, you and another two or three Pakistani users who are always ready with answers to everything. You guys just need to answer or say something about India. You have the most anti India views. You have a mental block with regards to India and cant think beyond the things you know or like to know. You think you guys are in a perfect Country and going gaga over your Country. No issues with that but you know the truth about Pakistan and its image in world today.

We are not in similar page with you about the realities of world today. We focus more on future than you guys just going round the circle about your past.

Also your view about our Country counts for Zilch.

Keep going about your absurd and stoneage thoughts. Actually i like the way you guys remove your frustration about India.

You can never remove India from your thoughts.

WELL WELL WELL,Mr fraudia (different)khan ,jimpack,indian chohay mar sher etc we will never want to waste our precious time on any indian site,you guys are obssesed by pakistan,we give a dame about your point of view about pakistan ,why dont you get the hell out of pak site and keep this in mind it is your hindu community who still lives in stone age by worshipping cows ,snakes rats you guys worship any thing except God,you have sick mentality thats why you even drink urine,by westernizing your self you think you are modren,no you are actually slave of western culture and capitalism.

 

[jimpack]

Just enjoy whatever BS they write about India. It is very hard for them to digest somebody's progress.

naach na jane aangan teda

---Why does reality seem BS to ya'll :roll: unless it really is BS 8-)...Ya'll are Biggest hypocrites and loosers one after the other coming here and begging us like kids to be admirer of your country :lol: Delusional Introverts :ugeek:

Taul, you and another two or three Pakistani users who are always ready with answers to everything. You guys just need to answer or say something about India. You have the most anti India views. You have a mental block with regards to India and cant think beyond the things you know or like to know. You think you guys are in a perfect Country and going gaga over your Country. No issues with that but you know the truth about Pakistan and its image in world today.

We are not in similar page with you about the realities of world today. We focus more on future than you guys just going round the circle about your past.

Also your view about our Country counts for Zilch.

Keep going about your absurd and stoneage thoughts. Actually i like the way you guys remove your frustration about India.

You can never remove India from your thoughts.

WELL WELL WELL,Mr fraudia (different)khan ,jimpack,indian chohay mar sher etc we will never want to waste our precious time on any indian site,you guys are obssesed by pakistan,we give a dame about your point of view about pakistan ,why dont you get the hell out of pak site and keep this in mind it is your hindu community who still lives in stone age by worshipping cows ,snakes rats you guys worship any thing except God,you have sick mentality thats why you even drink urine,by westernizing your self you think you are modren,no you are actually slave of western culture and capitalism.

Here is another example of frustrated Pakistani who is showing all his love for India. You can keep pouring your love, it does not matter. In spite of all your praises for India, we are moving forward with the world. You guys are stuck in lines for atta, sugar and waiting for electricity to come. You are another zero who has heavy burden and frustration of his country on his mind.

Cant survive without America and keep cursing them also. You guys are know to bite the same hand that feeds you.

Also shows that you were also educated by a Maulvi at some *&^%$##% place.