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Disaster: PML N and PPP consensus on caretaker PM , Asma Jehangir
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FaisalKh
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Re: CareTaker Government ??????
????????????????? Bhai sirf copy paste hi karogay ya yahan thread shoro Karne ki waja b batao gay ye.... Wese ab to aap ko noon league ka andaza ho Gaya hoga aap supporters ko saamne bewakoof banate hain aur peeche muzaakiraat Kya baat hai
????????????????? Bhai sirf copy paste hi karogay ya yahan thread shoro Karne ki waja b batao gay ye.... Wese ab to aap ko noon league ka andaza ho Gaya hoga aap supporters ko saamne bewakoof banate hain aur peeche muzaakiraat Kya baat hai
Qureshi1975
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Re: CareTaker Government ??????
Brother i do not support anyone. All of them are crocks thats what i think. I post this thread just because its a developing story and i just hope to see positive discussion.
Brother i do not support anyone. All of them are crocks thats what i think. I post this thread just because its a developing story and i just hope to see positive discussion.
Qureshi1975
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ustadjejanab
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Re: CareTaker Government ??????
یا تو قریشی نے تحریک انصاف جواین کر لی ھے یا پھر اس نے آج بھنگ پی لی ھے ...اپنے ہی خلاف خبر یہاں پیسٹ کر دی ھے ..ہم تو پہلے ہی اس نورا کشتی سے قوم کو خبردار کر رہے تھے
یا تو قریشی نے تحریک انصاف جواین کر لی ھے یا پھر اس نے آج بھنگ پی لی ھے ...اپنے ہی خلاف خبر یہاں پیسٹ کر دی ھے ..ہم تو پہلے ہی اس نورا کشتی سے قوم کو خبردار کر رہے تھے
Re: CareTaker Government ??????
Pagal Khan supporters should know that as per law government and opposition party should discuss how next election should be free and fair.
If PMLN wanted to rig this election then why they push for an election commissioner who is also liked by Pagal Khan?
Pagal Khan supporters should know that as per law government and opposition party should discuss how next election should be free and fair.
If PMLN wanted to rig this election then why they push for an election commissioner who is also liked by Pagal Khan?
Re: CareTaker Government ??????
Both Asma Jahangir and Haroon are pro PPP, how can they be independent and neutral???????? Stupid choice.
I don't think Imran will accept it because Asma is openly against Imran and PTI. If it does, it will prove what PPP and PMLN are up to?
Both Asma Jahangir and Haroon are pro PPP, how can they be independent and neutral???????? Stupid choice.
I don't think Imran will accept it because Asma is openly against Imran and PTI. If it does, it will prove what PPP and PMLN are up to?
ustadjejanab
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: CareTaker Government ??????
چلو اسی جھلے ھی سہی....لیکن عقلمند بھائی آپ یہ تو بتائیں یہ بات چیت خفیہ کیوں ہو رھی ھے ..اگر نورا اور زورداری اتنے ھی مخلص ہیں تو قوم کو اعتماد میں لے کر مذاکرات کریں نا.
یار ہم روٹی کو چوچی تو نہیں کہتے ویسے جتنا آپ لوگوں نے سمجھ لیا ھے ہمیں
یار ہم روٹی کو چوچی تو نہیں کہتے ویسے جتنا آپ لوگوں نے سمجھ لیا ھے ہمیں
Qureshi1975
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Re: CareTaker Government ??????
Bhang wali baat sahi hai ;) PTI tooba tooba mera damagh chal gia hai kia:lol:
Bhang wali baat sahi hai ;) PTI tooba tooba mera damagh chal gia hai kia:lol:
Re: CareTaker Government ??????
In the best interest of the nation and future of the country and the new generation it will be a wise decision if all the political parties are taken in confidance in deciding the caretaker setup and fair and free elction is assured but it seems to be a dream / maricle as PML---> PML(N), PML(Q), PML(A, B, C,D,E,F,G,H,........z) same with PPP..... How can we expect that these guys will prefer national interest on their family interest. (bear in mind this is man made constitution Not the words of ALLAL SWT)
In the best interest of the nation and future of the country and the new generation it will be a wise decision if all the political parties are taken in confidance in deciding the caretaker setup and fair and free elction is assured but it seems to be a dream / maricle as PML---> PML(N), PML(Q), PML(A, B, C,D,E,F,G,H,........z) same with PPP..... How can we expect that these guys will prefer national interest on their family interest. (bear in mind this is man made constitution Not the words of ALLAL SWT)
FaisalKh
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: CareTaker Government ??????
That's y I asked u wat is ur point of discussion here becoZ we know these both parties nd their politics
FaisalKh
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: CareTaker Government ??????
Wese PTI buri jamaat to nahi hai aap kyon khilaf hain kuch to waja hogii shayad aap ki ghalat fehmi door ho jaaye......
Wese PTI buri jamaat to nahi hai aap kyon khilaf hain kuch to waja hogii shayad aap ki ghalat fehmi door ho jaaye......
FaisalKh
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: CareTaker Government ??????
We still remember when zardari said it was decided between PPP nd PMLN that first our turn then urs do u really think they r against each other? If yes then I feel pity for u.... all the time PMLN supported PPP's corruption on the name of friendly opposition if u still want to live in fools paradise then good luck n enjoy ur time we would try to take u out from there but......;)
We still remember when zardari said it was decided between PPP nd PMLN that first our turn then urs do u really think they r against each other? If yes then I feel pity for u.... all the time PMLN supported PPP's corruption on the name of friendly opposition if u still want to live in fools paradise then good luck n enjoy ur time we would try to take u out from there but......;)
FaisalKh
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: CareTaker Government ??????
:lol::lol::13::13::13::13: Aaap kitne maasoom ho mere Bhai pichle takreeban 40 saal se ye donon hum pe hukumat kar rahi hain aur aaj tak inko ye pata nahi ke Hamara interest Kya hai filhal unko apne aur amreeka ki parree we r in the queue shayd agle 30 40 saal mai no aa jaaye
Qureshi1975
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Re: CareTaker Government ??????
Bhai mujhee hakeem nai kaha hai kai jhotoo aor nach gana kernay walon sai door rahoo :)
Bhai mujhee hakeem nai kaha hai kai jhotoo aor nach gana kernay walon sai door rahoo :)
Qureshi1975
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Re: CareTaker Government ??????
PTI or any other party who are out of parliment has only 1% to say when its forming of caretaker government. If government decide to go for early election they are only oblige to consult with a parties which have a represntation in Parliment.
So just enjoy with Pro PML(N), PPP, JUI(F), ANP and MQM caretaker government.
PTI or any other party who are out of parliment has only 1% to say when its forming of caretaker government. If government decide to go for early election they are only oblige to consult with a parties which have a represntation in Parliment.
So just enjoy with Pro PML(N), PPP, JUI(F), ANP and MQM caretaker government.
Disaster: PML N and PPP consensus caretaker PM , Asma Jehanghir
http://tribune.com.pk/story/408577/asma-jahangir-or-hussain-haroon-as-caretaker-pm/
Asma Jahangir or Hussain Haroon as caretaker PM?
By Our Correspondent
Published: July 15, 2012
PPP, PML-N close to working out political deal that would result both in naming a consensus caretaker prime minister. PHOTO: FILE
ISLAMABAD: Don’t be taken in by the negative sound-bites. On the face of it, political forces seem to be struggling to succeed in the litmus test of managing the first transition from one popularly elected dispensation to another in the country’s history, and are fighting it out bitterly over all things major and minor.
However, there is more to it than meets the eye.
Amid feverish speculation on what will happen by the end of the month in the high-stakes confrontation between the government and the judiciary, which may see a second prime minister elected by parliament losing his job, the two largest political parties of the country are quietly but rapidly finalising an agreement.
The Express Tribune has it from credible sources that the ruling Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) and the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) are close to working out a political deal that would result both in naming a consensus caretaker prime minister and finalisation of a date for election to be held before the end of the year.
There are two candidates being discussed for the all-important post of caretaker prime minister, on which both sides have been holding discussions over the past 10 days. There is the soft, back-up option in Abdullah Hussain Haroon, currently Pakistan’s ambassador to the United Nations. Then there is the second, more sensational candidate under serious consideration: none other than Asma Jahangir, the former president of the Supreme Court Bar Association and former chairperson of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan.
While no one from either the PPP or the PML-N is willing to officially come on record with this, unofficially key sources in the hierarchy of both parties confirm that talks on caretaker prime ministerial candidates and a date for elections are in advanced stages.
While refusing to either deny or confirm the names of Jahangir and Haroon as candidates, a member of the close circle of Sharif said, on the condition of anonymity advised patience for the short term. “Wait for two weeks and a lot will be clear, as well as some good news for all,” he said.
When approached, a source close to the presidency was equally assuring. “We have been talking [to PML-N] not for some days but for close to two months now and have whittled down some names that are generally agreeable to both [our parties],” he said. Again refusing to confirm or deny Jahangir and Haroon, the only additional information he offered was: “[The caretaker prime minister] will neither be from the PPP or PML-N, nor one who has been a member or leader of any other political party.”
The sources claim that Asma Jahangir is the current frontrunner not only because she is known for her vociferous stand for parliamentary supremacy and rule of law but, even more importantly, for her unambiguous stand against interference of the ‘establishment’ in the democratic process.
“In fact, the consensus [between PML-N and PPP] on Fakhruddin G Ebrahim [as the chief election commissioner] is closely linked to her (Asma Jahangir’s) candidacy under consideration by both parties,” a source in the PML-N said. “Both (Fakhruddin and Asma) have links to the legal fraternity, which respects them both, and which should come handy in dealing with any legal challenges that may be thrown by [Imran Khan’s] Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf during the tenure of the caretaker government to seek support of the judiciary in queering up the electoral pitch,” he added.
My Note: Just as I warned you guys Fakhru bhaya(AKA Smeagle) is a PPP mohra. Next part of the deal is the equally "Neutral" Asma Bongi. As the PML N quotes notes the idea is to isolate PTI as every one else will accept this.(Just like PTI rather foolishly accepted Fakhru bahaya). High level mukmuka.PML N has pretty muched succumbed to PPP. It now knows the only real threath to it is PTI. PPP would rather have a trusted partner like PML N in charge for the next five years.
Asma alleged Anti-est credentials will give the whole process legitimacy. And will push PTI towards parties that are easy to write off and demonize in the international and National English press.
Sources in the PPP, while careful in not confirming or denying Jahangir’s candidacy, indirectly revealed why she would be a good choice for them. “We don’t want an interim prime minister who can be amenable to pressure from the [Supreme Court] judges to write a letter to the Swiss authorities during the caretaker period seeking investigations against the president,” he said. “We want a caretaker prime minister who has no agenda of their own and one who can work well with the chief election commissioner in focusing on the one-point agenda of holding a free, fair and impartial election,” he added.
My note: This will be sold again by both PPP and PML N and partners as another Jamhoriat saving step. Anyone who knows about Asma role in rigging the SC bar election post restoration knows she is skilled in manipulating media and a old hand when it comes to rigging. Any criticism of Asma automatically makes you a neo Taliban DPC Establishment agent. DAWN,EXPRESS and ofcourse GEO will now prepare the ground for this move.The others will follow.Expect more "Hard hitting" "journalism" in the next week.
Sources in both parties agreed that the litmus test of the maturity of political forces is at hand. “We may have our differences, and some really strong ones at that, but all we want are the freest, fairest and most credible elections in Pakistan’s history and these can only be if, for the first time in our history, we, the political forces, and not the establishment, decide and implement the rules of the game,” a source in the PPP said. “We’ve made a solid start with the joint nomination of the CEC. However, pressure [from the establishment] is mounting and we can’t waste much time now. The elections will be held before the end of the year for which we need caretakers who can restore faith in democracy and politics and be the best advertisement for an election with a high turnout,” he added.
Sources also confirmed that Jahangir recently met Sharif and a close aide of the president while Haroon is scheduled to meet both Sharif and President Zardari over the next few days. Both are likely to be agreed upon as joint candidates with Jahangir as the first choice and Haroon as the covering candidate.
Sources also said that PPP allies have already agreed to leave it to President Zardari to make the decision on the nomination of a caretaker prime minister on behalf of the coalition. They also said that neither the PPP nor the PML-N want to drag out the nomination like in the case of the CEC and both the Leader of the House Raja Pervaiz Ashraf and the Leader of the Opposition Chaudhry Nisar Ali would be meeting to put the official seal on “the political deal of the new millennium” in Pakistan “in two to three weeks’ time”.
“It’s going to be a win-win for all: the ruling parties, the opposition parties – both inside and outside parliament, and most of all for the people of Pakistan. The only loser will be the establishment, which usually steals the elections somewhere starting with the nomination of the caretaker prime minister and a malleable Election Commission. Not this time round,” added the source.
Published in The Express Tribune, July 15[SUP]th[/SUP], 2012.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/408577/asma-jahangir-or-hussain-haroon-as-caretaker-pm/
Asma Jahangir or Hussain Haroon as caretaker PM?
By Our Correspondent
Published: July 15, 2012
ISLAMABAD: Don’t be taken in by the negative sound-bites. On the face of it, political forces seem to be struggling to succeed in the litmus test of managing the first transition from one popularly elected dispensation to another in the country’s history, and are fighting it out bitterly over all things major and minor.
However, there is more to it than meets the eye.
Amid feverish speculation on what will happen by the end of the month in the high-stakes confrontation between the government and the judiciary, which may see a second prime minister elected by parliament losing his job, the two largest political parties of the country are quietly but rapidly finalising an agreement.
The Express Tribune has it from credible sources that the ruling Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) and the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) are close to working out a political deal that would result both in naming a consensus caretaker prime minister and finalisation of a date for election to be held before the end of the year.
There are two candidates being discussed for the all-important post of caretaker prime minister, on which both sides have been holding discussions over the past 10 days. There is the soft, back-up option in Abdullah Hussain Haroon, currently Pakistan’s ambassador to the United Nations. Then there is the second, more sensational candidate under serious consideration: none other than Asma Jahangir, the former president of the Supreme Court Bar Association and former chairperson of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan.
While no one from either the PPP or the PML-N is willing to officially come on record with this, unofficially key sources in the hierarchy of both parties confirm that talks on caretaker prime ministerial candidates and a date for elections are in advanced stages.
While refusing to either deny or confirm the names of Jahangir and Haroon as candidates, a member of the close circle of Sharif said, on the condition of anonymity advised patience for the short term. “Wait for two weeks and a lot will be clear, as well as some good news for all,” he said.
When approached, a source close to the presidency was equally assuring. “We have been talking [to PML-N] not for some days but for close to two months now and have whittled down some names that are generally agreeable to both [our parties],” he said. Again refusing to confirm or deny Jahangir and Haroon, the only additional information he offered was: “[The caretaker prime minister] will neither be from the PPP or PML-N, nor one who has been a member or leader of any other political party.”
The sources claim that Asma Jahangir is the current frontrunner not only because she is known for her vociferous stand for parliamentary supremacy and rule of law but, even more importantly, for her unambiguous stand against interference of the ‘establishment’ in the democratic process.
“In fact, the consensus [between PML-N and PPP] on Fakhruddin G Ebrahim [as the chief election commissioner] is closely linked to her (Asma Jahangir’s) candidacy under consideration by both parties,” a source in the PML-N said. “Both (Fakhruddin and Asma) have links to the legal fraternity, which respects them both, and which should come handy in dealing with any legal challenges that may be thrown by [Imran Khan’s] Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf during the tenure of the caretaker government to seek support of the judiciary in queering up the electoral pitch,” he added.
My Note: Just as I warned you guys Fakhru bhaya(AKA Smeagle) is a PPP mohra. Next part of the deal is the equally "Neutral" Asma Bongi. As the PML N quotes notes the idea is to isolate PTI as every one else will accept this.(Just like PTI rather foolishly accepted Fakhru bahaya). High level mukmuka.PML N has pretty muched succumbed to PPP. It now knows the only real threath to it is PTI. PPP would rather have a trusted partner like PML N in charge for the next five years.
Asma alleged Anti-est credentials will give the whole process legitimacy. And will push PTI towards parties that are easy to write off and demonize in the international and National English press.
Sources in the PPP, while careful in not confirming or denying Jahangir’s candidacy, indirectly revealed why she would be a good choice for them. “We don’t want an interim prime minister who can be amenable to pressure from the [Supreme Court] judges to write a letter to the Swiss authorities during the caretaker period seeking investigations against the president,” he said. “We want a caretaker prime minister who has no agenda of their own and one who can work well with the chief election commissioner in focusing on the one-point agenda of holding a free, fair and impartial election,” he added.
My note: This will be sold again by both PPP and PML N and partners as another Jamhoriat saving step. Anyone who knows about Asma role in rigging the SC bar election post restoration knows she is skilled in manipulating media and a old hand when it comes to rigging. Any criticism of Asma automatically makes you a neo Taliban DPC Establishment agent. DAWN,EXPRESS and ofcourse GEO will now prepare the ground for this move.The others will follow.Expect more "Hard hitting" "journalism" in the next week.
Sources in both parties agreed that the litmus test of the maturity of political forces is at hand. “We may have our differences, and some really strong ones at that, but all we want are the freest, fairest and most credible elections in Pakistan’s history and these can only be if, for the first time in our history, we, the political forces, and not the establishment, decide and implement the rules of the game,” a source in the PPP said. “We’ve made a solid start with the joint nomination of the CEC. However, pressure [from the establishment] is mounting and we can’t waste much time now. The elections will be held before the end of the year for which we need caretakers who can restore faith in democracy and politics and be the best advertisement for an election with a high turnout,” he added.
Sources also confirmed that Jahangir recently met Sharif and a close aide of the president while Haroon is scheduled to meet both Sharif and President Zardari over the next few days. Both are likely to be agreed upon as joint candidates with Jahangir as the first choice and Haroon as the covering candidate.
Sources also said that PPP allies have already agreed to leave it to President Zardari to make the decision on the nomination of a caretaker prime minister on behalf of the coalition. They also said that neither the PPP nor the PML-N want to drag out the nomination like in the case of the CEC and both the Leader of the House Raja Pervaiz Ashraf and the Leader of the Opposition Chaudhry Nisar Ali would be meeting to put the official seal on “the political deal of the new millennium” in Pakistan “in two to three weeks’ time”.
“It’s going to be a win-win for all: the ruling parties, the opposition parties – both inside and outside parliament, and most of all for the people of Pakistan. The only loser will be the establishment, which usually steals the elections somewhere starting with the nomination of the caretaker prime minister and a malleable Election Commission. Not this time round,” added the source.
Published in The Express Tribune, July 15[SUP]th[/SUP], 2012.
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rajaokayoum
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Disaster: PML N and PPP consensus caretaker PM , Asma Jehanghir
disaster for pti....................and chezay to Army.............and Mrs Takrey only to make happy india.........
disaster for pti....................and chezay to Army.............and Mrs Takrey only to make happy india.........
rajaokayoum
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Disaster: PML N and PPP consensus caretaker PM , Asma Jehanghir
no wonder she is trying to make up (ugly though) and coming without glasses in shows................and ...............yeh hai staus quo move........
no wonder she is trying to make up (ugly though) and coming without glasses in shows................and ...............yeh hai staus quo move........
