css officer or army officer

[tahir asif]

There could be two answers - one in reality and other one in ideal condition.

In reality - as someone said above 'jiss ki laathee uss ki bhainss" or in other words whoever has the biggest guns or more lethal firepower. Now you do the math of who has the biggest guns in this case :-)

As to what will actually happen on a Pakistani street - legally I don't know but common sense dictates that since the civilian officer will have more jurisdiction compared to the military officer then he should take precedence. Specially if the place where the dispute takes place in not a cantt area and will basically be a remit of a civilian officer and civilian law would apply.

The bigger question here is does the military officer once in the civilian areas are governed by the civilian law or are they still bound by the military law. Lets say if a active duty military officer commits a murder (as in the case of the rangers in Karachi last year where they killed a young man) in the city even while on duty then he should be tried by the civilian court unless the military officer kills a person while discharging his duties - then i guess there are provisions in law that gives the military personnel immunity from civilian prosecution.

But this is a legal and technical issue and has to be researched accordingly.

so mrk123 brother ,,whats the conclusion?? and who will be finally on the winning side as DISTRICT SP is not also a kid as mentioned by some friends since he controls the whole district and about 20000 force comes under jis direct command....... so the conclusion about clash and about powers???

 

[mrk123]

I think you are asking a very generalized question. Given the general nature of your questions and lacking specific scenarios its hard to answer. On top of it I am not a legal expert but I would believe that CSS exams would attempt to test the common sense along with relevant knowledge of a person.

Unless you provide more specifics to this hypothetical scenario then its hard to provide a right or wrong answer.

I will stick to my original suggestion that depending on the nature, place and circumstances of the dispute the outcome could be different and it will be dependent on the multiple factors as to who has precedence. Again, I may completely be wrong about all this.

I guess more specifics would help in figuring this out....

so mrk123 brother ,,whats the conclusion?? and who will be finally on the winning side as DISTRICT SP is not also a kid as mentioned by some friends since he controls the whole district and about 20000 force comes under jis direct command....... so the conclusion about clash and about powers???

 

[tahir asif]

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-New...in-Askari-case

bro this is a specific scenario.............. now tell me that if there had been a DPO, DISTRICT POLICE CHIEF instead of that music director whi is of the rank of SSP who is also a 19th grade officer like colonel and commands the whole district .......................then what?????????????????????????? read that link and answer that bro

 

[tahir asif]

کتابوں کا تو پتہ نہیں لیکن حقیقت یہ ہے کہ میجر، ایس-پی کے گلے میں پٹہ ڈال کر اسے کتے کی طرح سڑکوں پر گھسیٹے گا، بلکہ اس سے بھوں-بھوں کی آوازیں بھی نکلوا سکتا ہے

آج کے اخبار میں کوئٹہ کا ایک ایس ایچ او، چیف جسٹس سے استدعا کر رہا تھا کہ مجھے ہتھکڑی لگا کر تھانے میں بند کر دیا جاۓ. ایک میجر نے 'دن دیہاڑے' ایک ڈی-ایس-پی کو اغوا کر لیا

بین الاقوامی سطح سے لیکر قومی سطح تک، یہ یزیدوں اور شمروں کا زمانہ ہے. جس یزید کے پاس جتنے زیادہ شمر اور اسلحہ ہے، وہ اتنا ہی "حق" پر ہے. اگر کوئی طبقہ 'مجسم باطل اور شیطان' ہے تو وہ مسکین مسلمان ہے. اسی لیے تو کہا جاتا ہے کہ فتح ہمیشہ حق کی ہوتی ہے اور باطل ہمیشہ شکست کھا کر اپنے زخم چاٹتا پھرتا ہے

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bro jis tarha ka case ap bata rahe ho us tarha to QUETTA k SSP SHERANI ne bhe aik COLONEL ko arrest kr k us ko jail mai dala tha bcoz wo colonel us ssp ko dhamkian de raha tha but that doesn't prove anything............

 

[Malik495]

Malik bhai, lagta hai JAG branch say paalaaa parrr chukkaaa hai aapka? :-) itni intimate details about JAG - very few people even know that it even exists in Pak military.

Haha sorry for calling JAGas jack lol nahi paala to nhi para albatta mere cousins army officers hen 3 aur un men se aik iss branch mn servicesdety rahy hen uss liye paala parta raha hy.. baqi army officers andar se phattooo hiotay hen mind it hahaha

 

[tahir asif]

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-New...in-Askari-case
bro this link is the particular scenario................ now answer my query mrk123 bro

 

[sabir1]

but this hasn't answered the query,,,,,,,,, you want to say that army aa kr district k SP ko mare gi and major ko le jaye gi??????

apny banday ko churanay kay liay woh bohat baar police thanay per with arms attacks kar chukay hain. agay aap khud soch lo

 

[concern_paki]

no one has more power in Pakistan than Pakistan Army ...

 

[tahir asif]

mjhe ye samajh nahe ati k agar army k officers k pass itni he authorities hain to phr '' WHY lot of captains and even majors try to join PSP i-e POLICE SERVICE OF PAK (CSS ) through army quota"?????...............................

 

[tahir asif]

css officer vs army officer

if coincidentioally a DISTRICT SP (CSS OFFICER) gets a clash with a major ,, both are 18th grade officers or an ASP with a captain .......... who will be on the winning side........... SP and ASP has power of law and major and CAPTAIN has name of army.............. or in other words i want to ask that who has more powers and authirity ASP and SP or captain and major?? i got this query from css forums.

 

[alpha]

Re: css officer vs army officer

it all depends upon the post, not the grade i mean CSP offr could be a section officer with nothing in hand but at the same time ASP is also a grade 17 with lots of powers.
as regards the Army they have no powers as far as the cival administration is concerned, but when they come in aid of cival power they are as powerful as their peers in CSS.

But the Army as an institution is very strong as it does not let anyone take its officers/men for a ride. our history is full of these incidents in which Police try to mis handle the army officers and jawans and in a reaction they were beaten up like hell. though i am not here advocating there act but this is what always happen.

 

[cefspan]

the reality is major has immunity as zardari has.. army kabhi bhi apnay officer to choro sipahi ko bhi kisi police k officer ko hath nahi laganay deti yeh to phir bhi major rank ka officer hay.. baat dar asal powers ki hay.. in real dono officers aik dosray ko salute karain gy yeh law hay.. lakin as for as authority is concerend major ki dhoti utarwa sakta hay SP agar jack branch ko sirf aik call kr de...k aap k aik officer ne misconduct kia hay.. phir bahir se to uss major ko koi kuch nahi kah sakta albatta andar se uss major ki wo thukaee honi hay k bhai sahib sari zindagi punishment stations pr dhakkay khayen gay.. file pe promotion k liye 5 saal tak ban ho jaye ga aur 90% chance yeh hay k isi rank pe retire ho ga.. yeh baat main iss liye kah raha hon k mere relative jack branch men investigation officer hain..

First Of All I Would Like To Say , Angraez Chalae Gae Fouj Ka Decipline Chor Gae. Secondly , You Would Have To Agree Than Kae Army Waloon Ki State Within A State Hae.

 

[ranaji]

hmmm ................. ye jack branch kia hoti ha and who controls that??

iss ko jack sparrow control karta hai aur kabhi gaari ka jack kharab ho jai to jack branh say jack sparrow naya dai daita hai:lol::lol:

 

[tahir asif]

iss ko jack sparrow control karta hai aur kabhi gaari ka jack kharab ho jai to jack branh say jack sparrow naya dai daita hai:lol::lol:

hahahahahahahaha.......................... aala

 

[crankthskunk]

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if coincidentioally a DISTRICT SP (CSS OFFICER) gets a clash with a major ,, both are 18th grade officers or an ASP with a captain .......... who will be on the winning side........... SP and ASP has power of law and major and CAPTAIN has name of army.............. or in other words i want to ask that who has more powers and authirity ASP and SP or captain and major?? i got this query from css forums.

Policemen should win in Private life at all times. The military Laws forbid Army officers to interfere with the civil matters and laws. If an army member caused a public offence or crime, police has every right to arrest him.

It is unfortunate in Pakistan people due to ignorance get little bit scared or puzzled otherwise, if you know the law and right people you can take action against the army officers in public life. Few years back someone with the rank of Major threatened someone close to me in my presence. I screwed him legally right and proper, he is an absconder for few years now.

 

[cefspan]

Policemen should win in Private life at all times. The military Laws forbid Army officers to interfere with the civil matters and laws. If an army member caused a public offence or crime, police has every right to arrest him.

It is unfortunate in Pakistan people due to ignorance get little bit scared or puzzled otherwise, if you know the law and right people you can take action against the army officers in public life. Few years back someone with the rank of Major threatened someone close to me in my presence. I screwed him legally right and proper, he is an absconder for few years now.

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