contra: AQ Khan exposes Pak's nuke proliferation

contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
Source: http://www.timesnow.tv/articleshow/4327790.cms
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AQ Khan exposes Pak's nuke proliferation

An angry, humiliated and wounded :o Pakistan's controversial nuclear scientist AQ Khan has finally made public and official what has long been suspected - his nuclear proliferation activities that included exchanging and passing blue-prints and equipment to China, Iran, North Korea, and Libya, which was done at the behest of the Pakistani government and military, and he was forced to take the rap for it. :evil:

Khan writes about the Pakistani leadership in a December 2003 letter to his wife Henny that has finally been made public by an interlocutor. The interlocutor is a journalist contact by the name of Siman Henderson. Henderson has now made the letters public.

''The b******* first used us and are now playing dirty games with us :shock: . If the government plays any mischief with me take a tough stand. They might try to get rid of me to cover up all the things they got done by me :oops: ," Khan writes about the Pakistani leadership. The letter was exposed by Henderson in 'The Sunday Times'.

Describing the four-page letter as ''extraordinary,'' Henderson says in numbered paragraphs, it outlines Pakistans nuclear co-operation with China, Iran and North Korea, and also mentions Libya :evil: . Some of the disclosures are stunning, and in one para that is bound to embarrass Beijing, besides implicating it, Khan writes about how Pakistan helped China in enrichment technology in return for bomb blueprints :o :evil: .

'We put up a centrifuge plant at Hanzhong (250km southwest of Xian). The Chinese gave us drawings of the nuclear weapon :x , gave us 50kg of enriched uranium :x , gave us 10 tons of UF6 (natural) :x and 5 tons of UF6 (3%) :x ,' Khan writes.

The Pakistani government and the military have repeatedly rejected and challenged court orders to free him, and an episode last month, where Khan was freed just for a day on court orders before Islamabad locked him up again under pressure from Washington, appears to have precipitated the leak of the explosive letter.
 

sher_khan

Senator (1k+ posts)
contra said:
Source: http://www.timesnow.tv/articleshow/4327790.cms
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AQ Khan exposes Pak's nuke proliferation

An angry, humiliated and wounded :o Pakistan's controversial nuclear scientist AQ Khan has finally made public and official what has long been suspected - his nuclear proliferation activities that included exchanging and passing blue-prints and equipment to China, Iran, North Korea, and Libya, which was done at the behest of the Pakistani government and military, and he was forced to take the rap for it. :evil:

Khan writes about the Pakistani leadership in a December 2003 letter to his wife Henny that has finally been made public by an interlocutor. The interlocutor is a journalist contact by the name of Siman Henderson. Henderson has now made the letters public.

''The b******* first used us and are now playing dirty games with us :shock: . If the government plays any mischief with me take a tough stand. They might try to get rid of me to cover up all the things they got done by me :oops: ," Khan writes about the Pakistani leadership. The letter was exposed by Henderson in 'The Sunday Times'.

Describing the four-page letter as ''extraordinary,'' Henderson says in numbered paragraphs, it outlines Pakistans nuclear co-operation with China, Iran and North Korea, and also mentions Libya :evil: . Some of the disclosures are stunning, and in one para that is bound to embarrass Beijing, besides implicating it, Khan writes about how Pakistan helped China in enrichment technology in return for bomb blueprints :o :evil: .

'We put up a centrifuge plant at Hanzhong (250km southwest of Xian). The Chinese gave us drawings of the nuclear weapon :x , gave us 50kg of enriched uranium :x , gave us 10 tons of UF6 (natural) :x and 5 tons of UF6 (3%) :x ,' Khan writes.

The Pakistani government and the military have repeatedly rejected and challenged court orders to free him, and an episode last month, where Khan was freed just for a day on court orders before Islamabad locked him up again under pressure from Washington, appears to have precipitated the leak of the explosive letter.

Dude today is Eid. No fighting or debates today.
If you want to have a debate, at least bring an article from a country whose media is credible and does not have an animosity towards Pakistan. Otherwise the credibilty could be questioned.
 

Spartacus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Contra , what is new here ? Nothing .....

We exchanged for Missile Technology and for other things ....;)

What is wrong here ....This is the only way that this technology transfers from one to another country ....
Would you like to give us any country name those who conducted Atomic Bomb technology from A to Z.
No country my dear including USA and Russia .
They both took this idea from Germany after Germany lost world war in 1945 .
All other countries needed thieves and (or) other means to take this technology from Russia and USA .
Like England , China ,Israel , France .After Israel got Atom bomb ,Pakistan and India used their thieves and (or) other means to take this technology.
 
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commander

Guest
Good reply Spartacus. I agree with you that there is not a single country in the world who is not in this business(nuclear proliferation).
 

contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
Spartacus said:
Contra , what is new here ? Nothing .....

We exchanged for Missile Technology and for other things ....;)

What is wrong here ....This is the only way that this technology transfers from one to another country ....
Would you like to give us any country name those who conducted Atomic Bomb technology from A to Z.
No country my dear including USA and Russia .
They both took this idea from Germany after Germany lost world war in 1945 .
All other countries needed thieves and (or) other means to take this technology from Russia and USA .
Like England , China ,Israel , France .After Israel got Atom bomb ,Pakistan and India used their thieves and (or) other means to take this technology.

1. Spartacus bhai, what are you saying? :o :shock:

Would you like to give us any country name those who conducted Atomic Bomb technology from A to Z.

2. I think you are confusing missile technology with nuclear technology.
Missile/Rocket technology was taken from Germany by both US and Russia, when they defeated Germany.

US nuclear bomb project had started before Germany was defeated, and also, i don't think Germany was developing a nuclear bomb.

3. You are trying to bring every country to the level of Pakistan it seems...
AQ Khan/Government was running a proliferation network my friend.

4. France and Britain built their nuclear weapons using stolen technology? This is news to me.

5. And again, your obsession with comparing your country to India is also flawed here.

6. You need to realise, why your country is a pariah state. Why your country is not trusted. Why your country is treated the way it is.

7. I am surprised that you think "this" is the way technology is transferred!!!
My friend you have broken international laws!!!

IN DENIAL, AND PROUD OF IT!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Spartacus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Contra , I am glad that you accepted Missile/Rocket technology was taken from Germany by both US and Russia, when they defeated Germany.
That is why I do not need to explain about Werner von Braun ,captured by USA Army after World war in Germany ,with all his team , sent to USA , who became father of USA Missile/Rocket technology .

As I wrote ...."All other countries needed thieves and (or) other means to take this technology "...

J.Rober Oppenheimer father of USA ATOM BOMB ,was one of the thief that I indicated. Actually a thief with good education ...;)

After graduating from Harvard, Oppenheimer was encouraged to go to Europe for future study as a world-class education in modern physics was not then available in the United States

Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Robert_Oppenheimer


Hitler 'tested small atom bomb'


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"It's clear there was no master plan for developing atom bombs. But it's also clear the Germans were the first to make atomic energy useable, and that at the end of this development was a successful test of a tactical nuclear weapon...."
4348497.stm


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4348497.stm

As You wrote ...."And again, your obsession with comparing your country to India is also flawed here."

Believe me Indian thieves were not clever as ours and that is why our Atom Bomb has more power as compare to Indian Atom Bomb.
Reason for this >>>>>Our thieves were busy mostly with France and yours with Russia. As we know Russian Planes in India almost every week one crash ...:( . Even Pilots in India rejected to fly Russian Planes;

As you wrote ......"My friend you have broken international laws!!!..."

As I proved here every one who has Atom Bomb broked International law .....Including India
 
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commander

Guest
Believe me Indian thieves were not clever as ours and that is why our Atom Bomb has more power as compare to Indian Atom Bomb.
Reason for this >>>>>Our thieves were busy mosty with France and yours with Russia.

Contra thats why your own scientist are claiming that those nuclear tests were unsuccessful.
 

contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
spartacus bhai,
Reason for this >>>>>Our thieves were busy mostly with France and yours with Russia. As we know Russian Planes in India almost every week one crash ...:( . Even Pilots in India rejected to fly Russian Planes;

1. No Indian has ever been convicted or accused of stealing secrets.
France? or do you mean Holland?

2. Yes, there are certain issues with Mig21, lack of spare parts is the main reason. But, i fail to understand the connection here?

As I proved here every one who has Atom Bomb broked International law .....Including India

3. Actually you haven't proved that India or any other country broke any International Law.
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Robert Oppenheimer ---
1. He got his Doctorate in 1927.

2. He worked extensively in Britain and then in California.

3. Let us assume that it was Hitler, who came to power in 1936, who ordered the development of an atomic bomb. Oppenheimer being a Jew, couldn't have had any chance to visit Germany, could he? And there is no record either.

4. The Manhattan Project started in 1939, when intelligence reports stated that Germany was trying to develop a nuclear bomb.
Now, how come you are assuming that Oppenheimer stole bomb making secrets from Germany?
In the report that you referenced, it is clearly written that the Germans were unable to develop a nuclear weapon[Sceptical Response], the sources are unreliable, and also no written documents have ever been produced, unlike the Rocket program.

5. At best we can say that Germany was carrying out research on Uranium, long before US or Russia, but cannot credit them with the bomb.

Read the BBC story again, the person who has written the book himself acknowledges this.

6. Also, AQ Khan Xeroxed the designs and brought copies of it to Pakistan. Whereas all that we can say is that work was simultaneously going on in Germany and US.

Again, your comparison is wrong, and you need to snap out of this denial mode. It will be beneficial for you and your country.
 

contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
commander,
commander said:
Believe me Indian thieves were not clever as ours and that is why our Atom Bomb has more power as compare to Indian Atom Bomb.
Reason for this >>>>>Our thieves were busy mosty with France and yours with Russia.

Contra thats why your own scientist are claiming that those nuclear tests were unsuccessful.

1. Not "Scientists", one "Scientist" is questioning the thermonuclear explosion.
 

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