Coke and Pepsi contains a little Alcohol!

[tudywala]

it got caffeine not alcohol like coffee my best drink plus small amount can be found in yougert ,lassi cough syrips

 

[Pak1stani]

Natural fermentation occur in many products, keep orange juice for few days and you will get small amount of alcohol in it.

 

[Chile Relleno]

Alcohol is haram.haram cheez pait main jai chahey wo kam ho ya zyda wo gunah hai.


Agar Quran ya hadees main likha hai k alcohol us wakt tak pee saktey hain jab tak hosh hai tu la kar dekhao .

In my humble opinion, we need to differentiate between "alcoholic beverages" and the "chemical alcohol / ethyl alcohol/ ethanol". Ethyl alcohol is present in fruit and vegetables naturally.

In Quran, the word "alcohol" is not used. The stuff that is forbidden is "khamr" and reason for this is intoxication. And from Hadith, if large amount of something causes intoxication then small amount is also forbidden. So if two drinks intoxicate then taking a sip ( which will not intoxicate) is also not allowed.

The focus of Islam is on avoiding intoxication and not on ethanol molecules. I think large amount of coke/ Pepsi will not cause intoxication. What do you think?

 

[alimula]

Kiya dawaion key zariye alkohl pait mai jaati hey ya nahin .pehle tum ye batao mujhe?

kia daweia tum shoq se khate ho.... agr insaan mar rha ho bhook ki wja se tw soor bi kha sakte hain jaan bachane k liye. koi sense wali logic do bhai..... kaha dawaio wali alkohal oor kaha direct sharab... nikah oor zinah mae kia farq hai?...dono mae intercourse hota hai.... sood oor tazarat mae kia farq hai...dono hi businesses hain??? Please use common sense...

 

[alimula]

hmm...so the person who has cancer/TB etc should just die? As a lot if meds out there have some alcohol or even animal ingredients....

Life saving medcs per yeh law implement nhi hota... sood oor tajarat mae thora sa hi firq hai hain dono businesses. issi tarah nikah oor zinah mae b sirf Sunnat ullah ka hi farq hai.... so please dont confuse with baseless logic :(

 

[alimula]

In my humble opinion, we need to differentiate between "alcoholic beverages" and the "chemical alcohol / ethyl alcohol/ ethanol". Ethyl alcohol is present in fruit and vegetables naturally.

In Quran, the word "alcohol" is not used. The stuff that is forbidden is "khamr" and reason for this is intoxication. And from Hadith, if large amount of something causes intoxication then small amount is also forbidden. So if two drinks intoxicate then taking a sip ( which will not intoxicate) is also not allowed.

The focus of Islam is on avoiding intoxication and not on ethanol molecules. I think large amount of coke/ Pepsi will not cause intoxication. What do you think?

its not about intoxication limit its a general rule for everybody. Its just like same example of road speed. I have good control in car driving, I can drive 70mph even on 30mph without accident but govt will not accept this excuse. Thats the general speed limit set by Govt after human observation. thats y it doesn't make sense that its allowed to u if u can't b intoxicated even after drinking of 10 bottles. its not about individuals its about general rule. ;)

 

[کی جاناں میں کون]

acha tou aap keh rahey hain , key ager alcohal date our angoor sey bani ho tou halaal hey ?

halankay tumain is ka jawab pata ho ga likin phir bhi tum pooch rahay ho ,kion k amal tu karna nahi hai.

here is the answer :

Medicines containing non-khamr alcohol (alcohol made from other than dates and grapes) are halalas long as they are not consumed in such proportions which intoxicate. If the alcohol is made from dates or grapes which rarely is the case -, it will only be permissible to consume such medicine under the following conditions:

- No other alternative is available.
- An expert Muslim doctor prescribes the medicine and assures that the cure for that sickness lies in it.

 

[huspania]

Boycotting coke, pepsi, 7up and fanta will at least heal some wounds of the innocent Palestinians because such boycott will hammer the zionist franchisee. Boycott as much as you can to hammer them on the head without using modern machinery. Dont ignore chinese idiots who are now after muslims, banning veils, fasting and long beards. Its time to pull back from these racists who are using the name of security and then harassing muslims

 

[Chile Relleno]

its not about intoxication limit its a general rule for everybody. Its just like same example of road speed. I have good control in car driving, I can drive 70mph even on 30mph without accident but govt will not accept this excuse. Thats the general speed limit set by Govt after human observation. thats y it doesn't make sense that its allowed to u if u can't b intoxicated even after drinking of 10 bottles. its not about individuals its about general rule. ;)

You have missed my point. I am not talking about individual vs general. It is common knowledge that some people get intoxicated by one drink of beer/ wine etc. and others might need two, three or whatever number (physically drinkable). But eventually every one will get intoxicated. That is why even taking a sip of beer/ wine etc. is not allowed. This is not the case with Pepsi/ coke. You will need thousands of liters of Pepsi to reach alcohol level of a pint of beer. So Pepsi/ coke can never cause intoxication.

We can also compare alcohol (i.e. Ethanol) amount by volume (ABV value) in different beverages. For example:

Beer Usually 6%
Wine Usually 12%
Fruit juice Less than 0.1%
Pepsi/ coke Less than 0.001%

If ethanol molecules are the issue in Islam, than we should stop drinking Fruit juices also and test every fruit before eating it if there is any "alcohol" in it!

I emphasize again: issue in Islam is not the "chemical compound ethanol", the issue is intoxication. Imagine a situation a few hundred years ago, people are drinking fruit juice that contains "alcohol" but does not cause intoxication. Would Muslims drink that juice? Of course! But consider the case, when certain fruits have been fermented to produce intoxicating drinks. Would Muslims drink it? No, because they would know that it causes intoxication, it is "khamr". Hundred of years ago, there was no method of finding how much percentage of which molecules are present where.

We, as Muslims of present age, are quick to quote scientific findings done by others but hardly bother to analyze issues by considering the essence of Islamic injunctions in mind. And Allah knows the best.

 

[alimula]

You have missed my point. I am not talking about individual vs general. It is common knowledge that some people get intoxicated by one drink of beer/ wine etc. and others might need two, three or whatever number (physically drinkable). But eventually every one will get intoxicated. That is why even taking a sip of beer/ wine etc. is not allowed. This is not the case with Pepsi/ coke. You will need thousands of liters of Pepsi to reach alcohol level of a pint of beer. So Pepsi/ coke can never cause intoxication.

We can also compare alcohol (i.e. Ethanol) amount by volume (ABV value) in different beverages. For example:

Beer Usually 6%
Wine Usually 12%
Fruit juice Less than 0.1%
Pepsi/ coke Less than 0.001%

If ethanol molecules are the issue in Islam, than we should stop drinking Fruit juices also and test every fruit before eating it if there is any "alcohol" in it!

I emphasize again: issue in Islam is not the "chemical compound ethanol", the issue is intoxication. Imagine a situation a few hundred years ago, people are drinking fruit juice that contains "alcohol" but does not cause intoxication. Would Muslims drink that juice? Of course! But consider the case, when certain fruits have been fermented to produce intoxicating drinks. Would Muslims drink it? No, because they would know that it causes intoxication, it is "khamr". Hundred of years ago, there was no method of finding how much percentage of which molecules are present where.

We, as Muslims of present age, are quick to quote scientific findings done by others but hardly bother to analyze issues by considering the essence of Islamic injunctions in mind. And Allah knows the best.

Thanks for confusing the simple and straight thing... You successfully did it. I love the way you did it.

 

[Chile Relleno]

Thanks for confusing the simple and straight thing... You successfully did it. I love the way you did it.

Sorry to know that you can't handle critical thinking.

 

[Amna Rizvi]

coke's response to that back in 2012.


http://www.beveragedaily.com/Markets/Tests-show-trace-alcohol-levels-but-Coke-insists-it-has-Islamic-acceptance

This just says COKE DOES NOT ADD ALCOHOL and IT OCCURS NATURALLY (in low quantities.. that is 10ml per 1 litre.. which is 10ml per 1000000 or 0.0001%

 

[albany]

there is abundant supply of i.diots in pakistan. salamm to the thread starter. another id.iot

 

[alimula]

Sorry to know that you can't handle critical thinking.

Yeah Islam is very difficult to understand because its not for a common man. One must have phd and critical thinking in order to become muslim. Thats why only PHD holders and critical thinker are muslim and Islam is only for them. Sorry for that .. because I couldn't met that criteria :13:(cry):13:

 

[nautanki]

meray kam akal bhai, every fruit contains alcohol in form of ethanol. Its a by product of ripening and absolutley natural. When you drink fresh squeezed juice, you are drinking that alcohol. milkshake mai bhi hoti hai alcohol.
here is a research study of you want to confirm it your self. ( http://fshs.org/proceedings-o/1970-vol-83/294-298 (DAVIS).pdf ) .
Oranges contain about 0.07 percent to 0.09 percent alcohol when ripe. Coke and Pepsi had 0.001 percent.

Arabi dangar doctors aur next level chawal newspapers per ***** bhaijo. sceince ki baat kero.

ya tou fruit khana chor dou. Jo khameeri rooti aur naan khatay ho baray shoq sai , they are also made after fermenting wheat with yeast. that also has alcohol in it.

Total bakwas post ker kai time waste.

 

[Pakistani1947]

hmm...so the person who has cancer/TB etc should just die? As a lot if meds out there have some alcohol or even animal ingredients....

If the medicine is mixed with alcohol, and the percentage of alcohol is so great that this medicine is intoxicating, then it is khamr and it is haraam to take it.

Source

 

[blatant]

all the pain killers with codeine and other similar ingredients are KHUMR as well.

so next time one has an operation, you better not use any morphine!