Bangladesh lifts ban on travel to Israel

arifkarim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)

Bangladesh lifts ban on travel to Israel​

By ZACHARY KEYSER
MAY 22, 2021 22:26
A Muslim devotee recites the Koran at the Star Mosque during Ramadan in Dhaka, Bangladesh, April 26, 2020 (photo credit: REUTERS/MOHAMMAD PONIR HOSSAIN)

A Muslim devotee recites the Koran at the Star Mosque during Ramadan in Dhaka, Bangladesh, April 26, 2020
(photo credit: REUTERS/MOHAMMAD PONIR HOSSAIN)

Passports for Bangladeshi citizens, up until now, have had a caveat written on the document stating that the document was valid in "all countries of the world, except Israel."​

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Bangladeshhas reportedly lifted its travel ban to Israel in an unexpected move welcomed by the Foreign Ministry's Deputy Director General for Asia and the Pacific Gilad Cohen on Saturday.

Passports for Bangladeshi citizens, up until now, have had a caveat written on the document stating that the document was valid in "all countries of the world, except Israel."
Despite having no formal diplomatic ties with Israel, Bangladesh's home affairs minister Asaduzzaman Khan confirmed to the Bangladesh-based the Weekly Blitzthat newly issued passports will no longer explicitly single out Israel on official travel documents, opening up the possibility for Bangladeshi citizens to legally travel to the Jewish State upon renewal of their passports.

Bangladeshi citizens who have traveled to or attempted to travel to Israelin the past have been arrested and charged with high treason, or threatened with that fate if they ever stepped on Bangladeshi soil again.

This was the fate of journalist Salah Choudhury, the editor of the Weekly Blitz, who attempted to travel to Israel in 2003 to attend a writer's seminar in Tel Aviv. He was subsequently imprisoned and charged with treason, sedition and blasphemy.

Cohen lauded the move and called for the two governments to work towards establishing formal ties, as Israel has done with other Muslim countries in the past year such as the UAE, Bahrain, Morocco and Sudan, in normalization deals brokered by the United States.

Great news. Bangladesh has removed travel ban to Israel as is common on Pakistani passport
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Dr Adam

President (40k+ posts)
They are a sovereign nation and it is their right to decide as to what is best for their country.
That being said, in my opinion if they were too keen to take this step they could have put this on hold for some time. Doing this when at present Jewish state is hell bent killing innocent Muslims with impunity and desecrating Al Aqsa Mosque, this was not the good time. By this act what message Hasina Wajid is giving to Palestinians and the Muslims at large? This will embolden Israel to further go berserk.
Bangla bundoh on the wrong side of the history.
 

Kavalier

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Bangladesh is going great and in the right direction. From declaring JI as a terrorist organisation to hanging the 1971 incident related Mullahs, from declaring the country democratic to curtailing the role of army in politics, from promoting small medium industry to land reforms and now such actions to promote a positive image of the country, Bangladesh has proven that they are on the right path. They were always politically more aware than the west Pakistanis, they were always a nation and on top of that a proud one, a tolerant society with Hindus constituting half of Bengal before the divide and even later they were more concerned about their cultural/democratic values and secular approach, so there was no way that they could co-exist with west Pakistan.

Thumbs up Bangladesh ?
 

Siberite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
@ arifkarim

You must have been overwhelmed by the generosity of BD and Hasina Wajid under the cowcola shower of Modi and company to recognize the brutality of Israeli Government on Palestinians by celebrating the removal of exception .I see no other reason to highlight this subservience nature of action by a well known Islam hater regime in BD .
 

Siberite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Bangladesh is going great and in the right direction. From declaring JI as a terrorist organisation to hanging the 1971 incident related Mullahs, from declaring the country democratic to curtailing the role of army in politics, from promoting small medium industry to land reforms and now such actions to promote a positive image of the country, Bangladesh has proven that they are on the right path. They were always politically more aware than the west Pakistanis, they were always a nation and on top of that a proud one, a tolerant society with Hindus constituting half of Bengal before the divide and even later they were more concerned about their cultural/democratic values and secular approach, so there was no way that they could co-exist with west Pakistan.

Thumbs up Bangladesh ?
I was expecting better than this from you. What does it signify ? Especially , right after the naked atrocities of un proportional bombardment of occupied people.
 
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Kavalier

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I was expecting better than this from you. What does it signify ? Especially , right after the naked atrocities of un proportional bombardment of occupied people.
Is that a war? Is Israel an enemy or a friend? is India an enemy of Pakistan or a friend? How does America treat Pakistan, is he an enemy or a friend? How about Iran and KSA?

Think about the answers of these questions and why I asked, then you may will know what I meant when I wrote the other comment.
 

Siberite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Is that a war? Is Israel an enemy or a friend? is India an enemy of Pakistan or a friend? How does America treat Pakistan, is he an enemy or a friend? How about Iran and KSA?

Think about the answers of these questions and why I asked, then you may will know what I meant when I wrote the other comment.
Standing for right and opposing wrong is the right thing to do. Its doesn't have to be an enemy or war. This is how you like to be recognized. Americans have done a lot of injustice in world. They have also tasted the consequences of their actions. Things don't produce results overnight. It takes some time to reap what you sow.



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Kavalier

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Standing for right and opposing wrong is the right thing to do. Its doesn't have to be an enemy or war. This is how you like to be recognized. Americans have done a lot of injustice in world. They have also tasted the consequences of their actions. Things don't produce results overnight. It takes some time to reap what you sow.



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Yes and what is right or wrong is very subjective and relative. For me, my family, my country, my people, my coming generations come first and this is how I define my right and wrong. Otherwise, I saw the right and wrong from the eyes of others in the last 40 years and what kind of hell I made of my country, you can also see. What was right for the masters, was obviously not right for me and my country, but because as you put it, I STOOD FOR RIGHT (without really knowing what is right and wrong, but just because someone defined it right for me), and my whole generation , even next generation was polluted and such ideologies crept in which will be hard to erase at least in out life times.

You are right, things do not show their effects overnight, so you will see the effects of Bangladesh's strategy and Pakistan's strategy in coming decades, if we live that long....
 

Siberite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Yes and what is right or wrong is very subjective and relative. For me, my family, my country, my people, my coming generations come first and this is how I define my right and wrong. Otherwise, I saw the right and wrong from the eyes of others in the last 40 years and what kind of hell I made of my country, you can also see. What was right for the masters, was obviously not right for me and my country, but because as you put it, I STOOD FOR RIGHT (without really knowing what is right and wrong, but just because someone defined it right for me), and my whole generation , even next generation was polluted and such ideologies crept in which will be hard to erase at least in out life times.

You are right, things do not show their effects overnight, so you will see the effects of Bangladesh's strategy and Pakistan's strategy in coming decades, if we live that long....
I am surprise to read your ideology of how you define right and wrong. In order to save my family, myself, my nation and my state, I must conform to the subjectivity of some else's definition of what right is and what constitutes the wrong ?. Its honestly quite absurd to even think coming from someone like you.

One must needs to explore him/herself to sense what is the universal truth and how the subsidies of that universal truth branches out any right and wrong . If we don't do that , we must be in a peril of continue to live the life which is quite inferior to what the almighty gave us . Peace.....

An addition to your comments regarding the BD's decision, I think it is called opportunisms , it always pays off in short term , but destroys the fabric of the nation on long term .
 

Kavalier

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I am surprise to read your ideology of how you define right and wrong. In order to save my family, myself, my nation and my state, I must conform to the subjectivity of some else's definition of what right is and what constitutes the wrong ?. Its honestly quite absurd to even think coming from someone like you.

One must needs to explore him/herself to sense what is the universal truth and how the subsidies of that universal truth branches out any right and wrong . If we don't do that , we must be in a peril of continue to live the life which is quite inferior to what the almighty gave us . Peace.....
I gave you a broad day light example of Afghan Jihad, if you are terming that as a RIGHT, let me know...
 

Siberite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I gave you a broad day light example of Afghan Jihad, if you are terming that as a RIGHT, let me know...
I agree with you that it was policy which had its short term benefits, but on long run ,it has created a havoc in our country , when unchecked armed groups roamed around in the country on the name of Jihad. We polluted the term Jihad in so disgusting manner that people start to dislike the word Jihad . For the afghan group, it was indeed a noble thing to do to resist an uninvited oppressive occupation of foreign forces.
 

Kavalier

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I agree with you that it was policy which had its short term benefits, but on long run ,it has created a havoc in our country , when unchecked armed groups roamed around in the country on the name of Jihad. We polluted the term Jihad in so disgusting manner that people start to dislike the word Jihad . For the afghan group, it was indeed a noble thing to do to resist an uninvited oppressive occupation of foreign forces.
So you see what I meant, there are no absolute rights and wrongs in this world, specially when it comes to countries and nations.... What you might see as a right (because someone else has defined it as a right for you), might turn out to be a horrible wrong...

All I want to say is that the preference should be you, your family , your country, your people and only after that you can say about other matters in the world... And there are so many examples where Pakistan and its state just did what others fed them as a right and they simply made narrative in their country to serve other's interests.

On domestic level as well, why the hell state does not think of future, is it so hard to understand that a certain Molvi, spitting venom today on youtube will become a monster in couple of years, the latest example id TLP, we are all witness of it, how our society , country and even state has become hostage to a certain ideology, a certain group and a certain BS. This is where I also praised Bangladesh, they are making sure that their future generations do not indulge in such petty and baseless stuff and they can be more part of a global community, whereas we nurture such groups, such thoughts until they get out of our hands, and world starts to spit on us, starts laughing on us, and in the end use us, then abuse us.....
 

Kavalier

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I am surprise to read your ideology of how you define right and wrong. In order to save my family, myself, my nation and my state, I must conform to the subjectivity of some else's definition of what right is and what constitutes the wrong ?. Its honestly quite absurd to even think coming from someone like you.

One must needs to explore him/herself to sense what is the universal truth and how the subsidies of that universal truth branches out any right and wrong . If we don't do that , we must be in a peril of continue to live the life which is quite inferior to what the almighty gave us . Peace.....

An addition to your comments regarding the BD's decision, I think it is called opportunisms , it always pays off in short term , but destroys the fabric of the nation on long term .
As I said, if we live long enough, we will see whose decision is right and whose decision is wrong, BD is on the rise, they need to be more participative in global community and extract whatever is possible for their people. If there are no people, if there is no BD, then what will be the point of making certain decisions? Same goes for Pakistan, the first and foremost should be to strengthen yourself, only after then you can have a meaningful say, otherwise as I said in an other post, others will laugh, make a mockery, then use us and finally abuse us... Lost on both fronts, internally and also externally... isn't it better than to at least make you internally clean, strong and self sufficient to see such a future where you can also have a global say. Point to ponder...
 

Siberite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
As I said, if we live long enough, we will see whose decision is right and whose decision is wrong, BD is on the rise, they need to be more participative in global community and extract whatever is possible for their people. If there are no people, if there is no BD, then what will be the point of making certain decisions? Same goes for Pakistan, the first and foremost should be to strengthen yourself, only after then you can have a meaningful say, otherwise as I said in an other post, others will laugh, make a mockery, then use us and finally abuse us... Lost on both fronts, internally and also externally... isn't it better than to at least make you internally clean, strong and self sufficient to see such a future where you can also have a global say. Point to ponder...
I can see where you coming from . I don't really have much to add and don't even care if the BD goes down the same route lots of hypocrites countries are on it and consider them selves lucky , fortunate and successful.

If this kind of philosophy has become populous which mentions egocentric and self preservation as a priority on the cost of the principles and dignified way of living , then obviously the nations of world will fall in to a dark era of might is right and there won't be any standards left for adopting the values which we cherished and teach our kids and new generation. It would be nations of zombies bleeding others to survive the day .

Having said that, let think where such ideology will drag us all , world as a whole. I know the limitation of an individual, but never raise you hands up in despair only because some wolves have taken a lead and the rest of the idiots are started to follow them.
 

Kavalier

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I can see where you coming from . I don't really have much to add and don't even care if the BD goes down the same route lots of hypocrites countries are on it and consider them selves lucky , fortunate and successful.

If this kind of philosophy has become populous which mentions egocentric and self preservation as a priority on the cost of the principles and dignified way of living , then obviously the nations of world will fall in to a dark era of might is right and there won't be any standards left for adopting the values which we cherished and teach our kids and new generation. It would be nations of zombies bleeding others to survive the day .

Having said that, let think where such ideology will drag us all , world as a whole. I know the limitation of an individual, but never raise you hands up in despair only because some wolves have taken a lead and the rest of the idiots are started to follow them.
and what do you think has been in world, since its inception? Might have always been right, and it will stay as long as this world is there.... principles etc are for weaker nations... try to fight your enemy on principles, try to get your people out of poverty on principles and ask Palestinians, Kashmiris etc to get independence on principles...

There is only one rule in this world and that i mentioned above, if you are a might, someone will care for you, otherwise keep chanting about your principles... there is a practical world and then there is this idealism, which only exists in dreams and ideas... and also brings you nothing except despair, worries, poverty and slavery..
 

Siberite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
and what do you think has been in world, since its inception? Might have always been right, and it will stay as long as this world is there.... principles etc are for weaker nations... try to fight your enemy on principles, try to get your people out of poverty on principles and ask Palestinians, Kashmiris etc to get independence on principles...

There is only one rule in this world and that i mentioned above, if you are a might, someone will care for you, otherwise keep chanting about your principles... there is a practical world and then there is this idealism, which only exists in dreams and ideas... and also brings you nothing except despair, worries, poverty and slavery..
I am sorry but I refuse to follow sheep for the survival. It all looks good to be able to do whatever the precocious little life wants to, however, standing up for the principles are no small task. The world as we know it is full with every thing . There is a life, happiness, misery, sorrow and pain and then there is the ability to make difference. I don't know what we all raise and what we all groom .

Mana kay es jahan ko na Gulzar Kar sakay
Kuch Khar Kum tu Kar Gae, Guzray jidher say hum.
 

Kavalier

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I am sorry but I refuse to follow sheep for the survival. It all looks good to be able to do whatever the precocious little life wants to, however, standing up for the principles are no small task. The world as we know it is full with every thing . There is a life, happiness, misery, sorrow and pain and then there is the ability to make difference. I don't know what we all raise and what we all groom .

Mana kay es jahan ko na Gulzar Kar sakay
Kuch Khar Kum tu Kar Gae, Guzray jidher say hum.
Let us agree to disagree. I know you have your own concepts and I respect them but reality is totally different and dream world is different. I also want to have an ideal world, but nothing like that exist and pragmatism demands to follow the rules of the world we live in....

Thank you for your replies.
 

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