Asad Umar's Stance on Drone - Awam Key Dil Ki Awaz

Aijazahmed

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Asad Umar's Stance on Drone - Awam Ke Dil Ki Awaz

Drone attacks are bad, but what about terrorists who were killed in those attacks?
Was this not the responsibility of the govt. to check on these terrorists.
If we had captured them ahead of time, there would be no drone attack at all.
 
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scholar

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Asad Umar's Stance on Drone - Awam Ke Dil Ki Awaz

پرویز رشید کسی ۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ ماں کا بچہ ہے
 

fawad ali

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Asad Umar's Stance on Drone - Awam Ke Dil Ki Awaz

Asad umer is a great leader.. He knows how to talk as well. Liberals who support drone attacks should invite USA to attack islamabad and lahore too to further improve our relations worldwide.
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
Re: Asad Umar's Stance on Drone - Awam Ke Dil Ki Awaz

Drone attacks are bad, but what about terrorists who were killed in those attacks?
Was this not the responsibility of the govt. to check on these terrorists.
If we had captured them ahead of time, there would be no drone attack at all.


This is the duty of Pakistani govt. to capture or kill them not Americans? It it the violation of Sovereignty.

Would Pakistan allow India or Israel or any other country (like even Iran) to kill terrorists inside Pakistan? Answer me if you can?
 

aamir_uetn

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Asad Umar's Stance on Drone - Awam Ke Dil Ki Awaz

پرویز رشید جیسے لوگ ذہنی غلام ہیں ، جب تک ان کے اپنے بچے نا مارے جائیں انہیں احساس ہی نہیں ہوتا کہ دوسرے کس کرب اور تکلیف سے گزرتے ہیں
 

Aijazahmed

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Asad Umar's Stance on Drone - Awam Ke Dil Ki Awaz

This is the duty of Pakistani govt. to capture or kill them not Americans? It it the violation of Sovereignty.

Would Pakistan allow India or Israel or any other country (like even Iran) to kill terrorists inside Pakistan? Answer me if you can?
For me, Americans are bigger terrorists than Talibans. If we Pakistanis allow smaller terrorists to intervene in Pakistan then how come we can stop Americans to violate our sovereignty?
 

miafridi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Asad Umar's Stance on Drone - Awam Ke Dil Ki Awaz

Asad Umar is right on spot. We will be there in the protest tomorrow. The less we are, the more proud we will feel, because we will feel like we are the only ones having some dignity in this country to stand up for its rights.
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
Re: Asad Umar's Stance on Drone - Awam Ke Dil Ki Awaz

For me, Americans are bigger terrorists than Talibans. If we Pakistanis allow smaller terrorists to intervene in Pakistan then how come we can stop Americans to violate our sovereignty?


Not a good logic. My plea was that Pakistani govt. should take actions against them not American. But I think you didn't read or understand this sentence?

Keep in mind, Haqqani network is not involved in Pakistan. They are fighting against Americans in Afghanistan.

Now answer me this that why India is not allowed to attack Lashkar-e-Tayabba and Hafiz Saeed in Pakistan, who are accused by India for attacks in India?

In the same why Iran and China also accusing some terrorist groups in Pakistan, who are involved in terrorist activities in Iran and China. So in the same logic these countries should also be allowed for searching or killing their terrorists in Pakistan? No?
 
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Mr.NomanAli

Voter (50+ posts)
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define terrorist.because things are not so black and white ..for america every hardliner who takes an extreme position is terrorist.....have you ever seen a drone being operated.....the drone operators make a call to kill merely based on their judgement .some times there is a ground intelligence too but most of the times they drone when they see some signature moves by people on ground. and what if the person you are calling terrorist is terrorist because of these drone strikes......because these drones are creating more terrorists....just have a comparison of today with 2007.or even before operation in 2003.you will realize by intervening in a decades old system we messed things up instead of solving them.
 

huspania

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Asad Umar's Stance on Drone - Awam Ke Dil Ki Awaz

we demand the US to start drone attacks in Lahore and rest of punjab where the world known terrorist groups have their offices. They move around freely with the support of punjabi government
 

Mr.NomanAli

Voter (50+ posts)
Re: Asad Umar's Stance on Drone - Awam Ke Dil Ki Awaz

[h=3]Ghulam Qadir Ruhela[/h]


Ghulam Qadir Ruhela (Ruhilah)


Ruhela Kis Qadar Zalim, Jafa Joo, Keena Parwar Tha
Nikalain Shah-e-Taimoori Ki Ankhain Nauk-e-Khanjar Se

How cruel, tyrant and vindictive the Ruhilah was
He blinded the Mughal Emperor with the point of his dagger


Diya Ahl-e-Haram Ko Raqs Ka Farman Sitamgar Ne
Ye Andaz-e-Sitam Kuch Kam Na Tha Asaar-e-Mehshar Se

The tyrant ordered members of the royal household to dance
This tyranny was no less than the Judgment Day’s signal


Bhala Tameel Iss Farman-e-Ghairat Kush Ki Mumkin Thi!
Shahenshahi Haram Ki Nainaan-e-Saman Bar Se

For the delicate ladies of the royal household it was
Utterly impossible to comply with this shameless order


Banaya Ah! Saman-e-Tarab Bedard Ne Un Ko
Nihan Tha Husn Jin Ka Chasm-e-Mehr-o-Mah-o-Akhtar Se

Ah! The merciless one made them the means of pleasure
Whose beauty had been veiled from sun’s, moon’s and stars


Larazte The Dil-e-Nazuk, Qadam Majboor-e-Junbish The
Rawan Darya-e-Khoon, Shehzadiyon Ke Dida-e-Tar Se

The feeble hearts were throbbing, the feet were forced to move
A river of blood was flowing from the wet eyes of the princesses


Yunhi Kuch Dair Tak Mehw-e-Nazar Ankhain Raheen Uss Ki
Kiya Ghabra Ke Phir Azad Sar Ko Baar-e-Mighfar Se

For some time his eyes remained thus absorbed in seeing
In confusion he freed his head from the load of Mighfar


Qamar Se, Uth Ke Taigh-e-Jaan Satan, Aatish Fashan Kholi
Sabaq Aamoz-e-Tabani Hun Anjum Jis Ke Jouhar Se

He untied the deadly, fire‐spitting sword from the waist
Whose sharpness was a source of luminescence to the stars


Rakha Khanjar Ko Agay Aur Phir Kuch Soch Kar Leta
Taqaza Kar Rahi Thi Neend Goya Chasm-e-Ahmar Se

He put the dagger in front, and lied down in some thought
Sleep was demanding rest from the red eyes so to say


Bujhaye Khawab Ke Pani Ne Akhgar Uss Ki Ankhon Ke
Nazar Sharma Gi Zalim Ki Dard-Angaiz Manzar Se

The water of sleep extinguished the embers of his eyes
The tyrant’s sight became ashamed of the painful spectacle!


Phir Utha Aur Taimoori Haram Se Yun Laga Kehne
Shikayat Chahye Tum Ko Na Kuch Apne Muqaddar Se

He got up and started saying this to Taimur’s household
“You should have no complaint against your fate”


Mera Masnad Pe Sou Jana Banawat Thi, Takaluf Tha
Ke Ghaflat Door Hai Shaan-e-Saf Aryaan-e-Lashkar Se

My sleeping in the couch was a mere show, an affectation
Because stupor is foreign to the dignity of fighters


Ye Maqsad Tha Mera Iss Se, Koi Taimoor Ki Beti
Mujhe Ghafil Samajh Kar Maar Dale Mere Khanjar Se

It was my intention that some daughter of Taimur
Considering me unconscious might kill me with my own dagger,


Magar Ye Raaz Akhir Khul Gya Sare Zamane Par
Hamiyyat Naam Ha Jis Ka, Gyi Taimoor Ke Ghar Se

But at last this secret has dawned to the whole world
Concern for honor has departed from Taimur’s household.”

just read the whole poe for the first time and got goose bumps in whole body :'(

 

JusticeLover

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Asad Umar's Stance on Drone - Awam Ke Dil Ki Awaz

Not a good logic. Keep in mind, Haqqani network is not involved in Pakistan. They are fighting against Americans in Afghanistan.

Now answer me this that why India is not allowed to attack Lashkar-e-Tayabba and Hafiz Saeed who are accused by India for attacks in India?

In the same why Iran and China also accusing some terrorist groups in Pakistan, who are involved in terrorist activities in Iran and China. So in the same logic these countries should also be allowed for searching or killing their terrorists in Pakistan?


Where ever haqqani is involved we must end this ? why would burn others home and don't expect others to burn ours?
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
Re: Asad Umar's Stance on Drone - Awam Ke Dil Ki Awaz

Where ever haqqani is involved we must end this ? why would burn others home and don't expect others to burn ours?

This is another topic Mr. My reply to that guy was in other context.

And can you convey this to India, Israel, America etc. to stop burning our land?
 

Abdul Ahad Khan

New Member
Re: Asad Umar's Stance on Drone - Awam Ke Dil Ki Awaz

Drone attacks are bad, but what about terrorists who were killed in those attacks?
Was this not the responsibility of the govt. to check on these terrorists.
If we had captured them ahead of time, there would be no drone attack at all.

Aijaz Sahib,
Altaf Hussain has so many cases of murder against him. Will UK allow us to drone him? And in the process if some brits are also killed, so be it, collateral damage?
 

JusticeLover

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Asad Umar's Stance on Drone - Awam Ke Dil Ki Awaz

This is another topic Mr. My reply to that guy was in other context.

And can you convey this to India, Israel, America etc. to stop burning our land?

ok Mr i will send it to them , they are my pets.
 

Aijazahmed

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Asad Umar's Stance on Drone - Awam Ke Dil Ki Awaz

Not a good logic. My plea was that Pakistani govt. should take actions against them not American. But I think you didn't read or understand this sentence?

Keep in mind, Haqqani network is not involved in Pakistan. They are fighting against Americans in Afghanistan.

Now answer me this that why India is not allowed to attack Lashkar-e-Tayabba and Hafiz Saeed in Pakistan, who are accused by India for attacks in India?

In the same why Iran and China also accusing some terrorist groups in Pakistan, who are involved in terrorist activities in Iran and China. So in the same logic these countries should also be allowed for searching or killing their terrorists in Pakistan? No?

When did I legitimize drone attacks by Americans on our soil? I condemn it and I also condemn any terrorist activity in Pakistan, be it by Americans, Talibans, Raw, Mossad, KGB or any one.
If we don't clean our house, remember, the time will come when Iran, Israel, India and others also will attack Pakistan. They will not care if we allow them or not. Like Americans don't need our permission.
But yes, we can control Talibans on our soil. If Haqqanai network is fighting in Afghanistan against Americans, they should fight in Afghanistan, why they are using Pakistan as their battlefield? Do you have any logical answer to that?
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
Re: Asad Umar's Stance on Drone - Awam Ke Dil Ki Awaz

When did I legitimize drone attacks by Americans on our soil? I condemn it and I also condemn any terrorist activity in Pakistan, be it by Americans, Talibans, Raw, Mossad, KGB or any one.
If we don't clean our house, remember, the time will come when Iran, Israel, India and others also will attack Pakistan. They will not care if we allow them or not. Like Americans don't need our permission.
But yes, we can control Talibans on our soil. If Haqqanai network is fighting in Afghanistan against Americans, they should fight in Afghanistan, why they are using Pakistan as their battlefield? Do you have any logical answer to that?

Read my very first comment. I have no problem to eliminate the Terrorists but our Army should do it instead of allowing Americans to do it.
 

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