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Although its not 100% accurate of the events but it gives a decent visulization. Things that it got wrong, the plane bounced 3 times on the tarmac.
Also interesting were some of the comments.
"They were coming in too high, too fast, and their concentration was on rectifying THAT without having to go around. They didn't go through the landing checklist, and they didn't notice that they had no gear. As you say, they'd have informed the Tower and declared and emergency, OR aborted the approach and initiated a go-around at that stage. They hit the runway nearly a mile from the threshold, bounce-scraping three times, before they realised they had no gear. If you've belly-landed, then you just go with that, and take the burn of a reprimand afterwards. You DON'T attempt a go-around after you've trashed your engines. Going around, the Tower clears them for ILS 25L once again, and asks 'Assume you want a belly-landing?'. ATC wasn't sure because the crew had said NOTHING at all about gear problems, but the Tower had presumably SEEN the first attempt, and wouldn't ever imagine that they'd just forgotten to put the gear down."
And this one is disturbing to say the least!
"in 29 years working as Air Traffic Controller, I lost count of the number of pilots coming in to land with the gear up. Despite all the warnings. It's amazingly frequent. "
I know I fly simulations all the times, and I actually do forget to lower gear and the very second a warning will remind me but that is because I thought I'm just alone and not like in an actual cockpit with 2 crew, where one flys the plane the other handles, radio, checklists and everything else.
I agree with the 1st comment the crew became fixated on making the landing at any cost to avoid any delay as I have mentioned in one earlier threads there is a term called get there-itis used in aviation in which the pilot will do everything in his power to land at first attempt due to anything from him wanting to end his shift and or pressure from management to cut delays at any cost.
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Also interesting were some of the comments.
"They were coming in too high, too fast, and their concentration was on rectifying THAT without having to go around. They didn't go through the landing checklist, and they didn't notice that they had no gear. As you say, they'd have informed the Tower and declared and emergency, OR aborted the approach and initiated a go-around at that stage. They hit the runway nearly a mile from the threshold, bounce-scraping three times, before they realised they had no gear. If you've belly-landed, then you just go with that, and take the burn of a reprimand afterwards. You DON'T attempt a go-around after you've trashed your engines. Going around, the Tower clears them for ILS 25L once again, and asks 'Assume you want a belly-landing?'. ATC wasn't sure because the crew had said NOTHING at all about gear problems, but the Tower had presumably SEEN the first attempt, and wouldn't ever imagine that they'd just forgotten to put the gear down."
And this one is disturbing to say the least!
"in 29 years working as Air Traffic Controller, I lost count of the number of pilots coming in to land with the gear up. Despite all the warnings. It's amazingly frequent. "
I know I fly simulations all the times, and I actually do forget to lower gear and the very second a warning will remind me but that is because I thought I'm just alone and not like in an actual cockpit with 2 crew, where one flys the plane the other handles, radio, checklists and everything else.
I agree with the 1st comment the crew became fixated on making the landing at any cost to avoid any delay as I have mentioned in one earlier threads there is a term called get there-itis used in aviation in which the pilot will do everything in his power to land at first attempt due to anything from him wanting to end his shift and or pressure from management to cut delays at any cost.
Get-there-itis Definition & Meaning | YourDictionary
Get-there-itis definition: (aviation) The <a>determination</a> of a <a>pilot</a> to reach a <a>destination</a> even when <a>conditions</a> for <a>flying</a> are very <a>dangerous</a>.
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