Admin's and Members' Response to Renewed Sectarian Conflict on the Forum

Humi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Since ISIS has started making news, there has been a significant increase in sectarian posts and arguments on the forum. I keep seeing a few members who continuously spread hate against other sects. The forum shouldn't be used to let these extremists spread their propaganda and I request admin to take stricter action them.

Furthermore, by replying to these comments which incite sectarian conflict, we are encouraging these deluded extremists to spew even more of their hate. Lets report them wherever we see a sectarian comment and make the forum a cleaner place again.

Siasat.pk should not be allowed to be hijacked by those who wish for us to kill each-other. Lets stand united against that mentality.
 

Akmal Zaidi

Senator (1k+ posts)
...sahi bat hay magar karnay do un ko bhi....sab jawab yahin mil jae ga...(wo aur bat hay

kay may na manon) her jaga jung hay yehan bhi sahi....ham bhi yehan jism may

jaan aur mun may zaban liyeh bethay hain.. Ek jagah Zarb-e-

Azb hay tu---- yehan Zarb-e-Zulfiqar ka war hoga... munafiq ya tu mara jae ga ya farar

hoga...(pasand aaya tu daad zaror deejyeh ga aur agar kisi nay dislike kia tu yeh meray

liyeh aur khushi ki bat hogi is ka matlab hoga bat puhanch gayee :D)
 

Imran Siddiqi

Minister (2k+ posts)
I agree that we should not suppress opinions even if they are hateful.
This actually exposes them more. We should be confident about our message. If their message is weak it will not resonate with masses.
 

WatanDost

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Since Khilafat e raashida this rift Exist and It cant be finished till the emergance of Imam Mehdi
and
ISIS is good or bad it is on ground making Big news and we cant Ignore / Hide Developing stories i.e. News.

 

miafridi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
...sahi bat hay magar karnay do un ko bhi....sab jawab yahin mil jae ga...(wo aur bat hay

kay may na manon) her jaga jung hay yehan bhi sahi....ham bhi yehan jism may

jaan aur mun may zaban liyeh bethay hain.. Ek jagah Zarb-e-

Azb hay tu---- yehan Zarb-e-Zulfiqar ka war hoga... munafiq ya tu mara jae ga ya farar

hoga...(pasand aaya tu daad zaror deejyeh ga aur agar kisi nay dislike kia tu yeh meray

liyeh aur khushi ki bat hogi is ka matlab hoga bat puhanch gayee :D)


Mazrat k saath but this thread is about you, who supported ban on IDP's to sindh.
 

Humi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Mazrat k saath but this thread is about you, who supported ban on IDP's to sindh.

that is more of a discrimination issue and not a sectarian one...but I agree that we should show solidarity regardless of sect, province, cast etc.
 
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Humi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Since Khilafat e raashida this rift Exist and It cant be finished till the emergance of Imam Mehdi
and
ISIS is good or bad it is on ground making Big news and we cant Ignore / Hide Developing stories i.e. News.


I don't think anyone has issues with sharing and commenting on stories.....its important to be educated about the happenings of the world...but some comments deviate from that focus instead on the differences between the faith of sects which is an issue as that does not contribute anything to the current affairs...like you said those differences have been there for ages so why waste time questioning eachother on the basics of faith...
 

WatanDost

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I don't think anyone has issues with sharing and commenting on stories.....its important to be educated about the happenings of the world...but some comments deviate from that focus instead on the differences between the faith of sects which is an issue as that does not contribute anything to the current affairs...like you said those differences have been there for ages so why waste time questioning eachother on the basics of faith...


Sister
I agree with your point but intentionally there is sugar coated propaganda from other Sect also exist equally here.
For Example AFGHANS fighting against Invaders and TTP on payroll of the Invaders but the Sectarian Hate Mongers
always paint them ONE.

On the other hand STATE Terrorism from Iran is Not a hidden fact from Afghanistan to Iraq, Syria but when you
point a Finger on that it will make them Feel Pain.

Truth should be prevailed and Brutus should be called Brutus rather it is Iran or Saudia.
 

muntazir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
اس فورم پر کچھ ایسی کالی بھیڑیں موجود ہیں جو کے دہشتگردوں کی پشت پناہی کرتے ہیں پر جب انکو روکا جاے تو وہ فرقہ واریت پر اتر آتے ہیں اور ہر ایک کو جو ان کا مخالف ہو شیعہ بنا دیتے ہیں یہ حالت تبھی ٹھیک ہو سکتے ہیں کے اڈمن ان لوگوں کو بین کریں جو کے اسے فرقواریت پر تھریڈ بناتے ہیں اور ماڈریٹر اسے لانے چاہیں ہیں جو کے ان کے خلاف بغیر کسی ہچکچاہٹ کے ان کو بین کریں
 

Ahud1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I found admin's soft forum tilted towards some factions too, so this sectarian debate is kind of instinct of this nation. i dont mind until it is not abusive or personal attacks based on hoax.
debate is better than killing.
i enjoy watching this debate when usually one side either quit or start abusing and getting personal
 

Pak1stani

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
discrimination can also be because of sect, religion and race.


that is more of a discrimination issue and not a sectarian one...but I agree that we should show solidarity regardless of sect, province, cast etc.
 

Inam Ansari

MPA (400+ posts)
Insaan ko such bolna chahye, ab kisi ko woh such hazm nhi hota tu is ko sectarian propaganda keh dete hein. lekin logon ko such tu pata chalna chahye ta k woh sahih decision le sakein. Hamare chup rehne se sahi ghalt aur ghalt sahi nhi ho jaey ga.
 

Omrkhan

Minister (2k+ posts)
اس فورم پر کچھ ایسی کالی بھیڑیں موجود ہیں جو کے دہشتگردوں کی پشت پناہی کرتے ہیں پر جب انکو روکا جاے تو وہ فرقہ واریت پر اتر آتے ہیں اور ہر ایک کو جو ان کا مخالف ہو شیعہ بنا دیتے ہیں یہ حالت تبھی ٹھیک ہو سکتے ہیں کے اڈمن ان لوگوں کو بین کریں جو کے اسے فرقواریت پر تھریڈ بناتے ہیں اور ماڈریٹر اسے لانے چاہیں ہیں جو کے ان کے خلاف بغیر کسی ہچکچاہٹ کے ان کو بین کریں

You, must be the first one to be banned.
 

Bret Hawk

Senator (1k+ posts)
@Huma

Your location is suggesting that you’re a resident of a society which promotes and solicit basic traits of Human Rights which include Right of Expression / Freedom of thought and yet you’re pretty much at odds with those values of your adopted country / place of residence.

Kindly come out of this restrictive, censoring and intolerant frame of mind and try to look into the broader perspective of various issues. Sectarian divides in any religion do also concerned with the acquisition of absolute authority and political influence apart from their theological / dogmatic polemics.

Various fragmentations occurred within the major theological sects of Islam since the first few decades of its promulgation by the great Prophet SAW. Sunnis had divisions of Ummayeds and Abbasids (Along with Mutazilites, Asharites, Jabarites etc) along with the Shia’t divisions of Ismailies, Zaidis and Ithna Asharis in that formative period of Muslim civilization. All of them vied for political and religious dominance which stretched all the way down to the modern Era.

Hence differences which imply political agendas do need to be deciphered, discussed and contested in a civilised manner of course without resorting to abuses, personal remarks and disrespectful slurs. If these guys do cross their limits then you do have the right to report their obnoxious posts to the moderators in a discreet manner rather than trumpeting it in the form of a new useless thread.
 

such bolo

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
ہما جی عراق اور شام میں نوری المالکی پر تنقید کیا ہوئی لوگوں کو فرقہ واریت یاد آگئی
پورا انٹرنیشنل میڈیا اس وقت عراق کی صورتحال میں شیعہ سنی جھگڑے کا ذکر کر رہا ہے
آپ چاہتی ہیں کہ پاکستانی دنیا سے لا تعلق ہو کر آنکھیں بند کر کے بیٹھ جائیں؟؟

تھوڑی بہت نوک جھونک برداشت کرنے کی طاقت رکھیں
قیامت نہیں آجائیگی

القاعدہ اور طالبان کو جب یہاں سعودی فنڈڈ کہا جاتا ہے اور نجدی سعودی سلفی نام لے لے کر گالیاں دی جاتی ہیں
تب فرقہ واریت نہیں ہوتی؟؟

آج تک کس نے اس پر احتجاج کرتے ہووے اس طرز عمل کو روکنے کی درخواست کی ہے؟؟

اس لئے خبریں آ رہی ہیں
انیں دیں
تھوڑی بہت لے دے بھی ہوجایے تو سننے کی طاقت رکھنی چاہیے
 

handsome.ebi

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
@Huma Your location is suggesting that you’re a resident of a society which promotes and solicit basic traits of Human Rights which include Right of Expression / Freedom of thought and yet you’re pretty much at odds with those values of your adopted country / place of residence. Kindly come out of this restrictive, censoring and intolerant frame of mind and try to look into the broader perspective of various issues. Sectarian divides in any religion do also concerned with the acquisition of absolute authority and political influence apart from their theological / dogmatic polemics. Various fragmentations occurred within the major theological sects of Islam since the first few decades of its promulgation by the great Prophet SAW. Sunnis had divisions of Ummayeds and Abbasids (Along with Mutazilites, Asharites, Jabarites etc) along with the Shia’t divisions of Ismailies, Zaidis and Ithna Asharis in that formative period of Muslim civilization. All of them vied for political and religious dominance which stretched all the way down to the modern Era. Hence differences which imply political agendas do need to be deciphered, discussed and contested in a civilised manner of course without resorting to abuses, personal remarks and disrespectful slurs. If these guys do cross their limits then you do have the right to report their obnoxious posts to the moderators in a discreet manner rather than trumpeting it in the form of a new useless thread.
Sir ji me apse mutafiq hun ke izhar e raaye ki azadi honi cahiye, or hame bahami ikhlafat per muhazib tareeke se behas karni cahiye, lakin yehi to masla ha sir j ke hamare log muhazib tareeke se behas nai kar sakte, unhe yeh nai maloom ke 'my freedom ends where starts urs' sir yeh konsi raaye ki azaadi ha jis me doosre firqe walon ko kufar ke fatwe diye jaayen?? un ki barguzida hastiyon ka bura bhala kaha jaye?? woh bhi uc muashre me jisme log aik doosre ke khoon ke payase phir raye houn, logon ke id card dekh kar unhe qatal kiya ja raha ho.
ap nai samjhte ke jab tak ham muhazib tareke se ikhtelaf karna nai shek jate, or ikhtelaf karne walon ko kafir or wajib ul qatal qarar dena nai chor dete tab tak ase guftugu se parheez karna cahiye??
 
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