Imam of Norway Masjid Explains Fasting experiance here with 24 hours of Sun

zzzindagi

Minister (2k+ posts)
Islam has become a joke when people follow religion blindly.

God doesn’t reward religious behavior He rewards intellect. Think what fasting means not what Molvis tell you.

Zohar, Asr, Isha is time of day not time of Sun or Moon which idiots have started to follow so blindly.

I sleep in the Day and work in Night. What will be my times for pray? please suggest.
 

pcdoc24x7

Minister (2k+ posts)
Masha' Allah what a great video and what a great man the Imam is. May Allah bless him and all the Muslims living in one of the coldest regions of the world and propagating the message of peace and harmony.
 

pcdoc24x7

Minister (2k+ posts)
I agree with your logic however if they are following the fatwa from learned aalims from Al-Azhar and following Makkah timings after coming to a consensus, I believe that should be good enough. Let's pray to Allah that He being the most merciful accepts all of our prayers no matter where we are and who we are and forgive our sins. Ameen.

May Allah s.w.t accept their fasts and prayers but AFAIK the consensus is to follow the timings of the closet country that has a sunrise and sunset.
 

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
I agree with your logic however if they are following the fatwa from learned aalims from Al-Azhar and following Makkah timings after coming to a consensus, I believe that should be good enough. Let's pray to Allah that He being the most merciful accepts all of our prayers no matter where we are and who we are and forgive our sins. Ameen.
Not to sound pedantic but he said Al azhar has its own fatwa but we in norway around 1200 muslims came toghter and decided to follow makka time.
 

awam

MPA (400+ posts)
Not to sound pedantic but he said Al azhar has its own fatwa but we in norway around 1200 muslims came toghter and decided to follow makka time.
I think he said Al Azhar has this fatwa to follow makka time. Allah know the best.
 

insouciant

Minister (2k+ posts)
Not to sound pedantic but he said Al azhar has its own fatwa but we in norway around 1200 muslims came toghter and decided to follow makka time.
But if Islam is a complete deen for the whole humanity till the day of judgement, then why were there left so many ambiguities requiring Fatwas later!! Just Saying!!
 

Liberal 000

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I think instead of Sunrise and Sunset rule Muslims should follow 12 hours fast all over world .
This thing will create unity and equality during Ramazan among Muslims

If we can argue for One Eid then why not one Rooza in equality and unity
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Islam is not a religion but ADDEEN ie a way of life from God for humanity to live by that ensures people fulfil plan and purpose of God by living according to it.

It is a mission assigned by God for mankind to establish it worldwide for ensuring their own well being.

Deen of islam has nothing at all to do with nonsense of mullas which they attribute to it. For example, God did not create human beings to test them. It is nonsense of mullas.

The quranic use of words is mistranslated, misinterpreted and misrepresented. For example, the quran uses words like SAMAWAAT not just for heavens but also for people in position of power ie rulers, money lenders and mullas etc. Word ARD is used not only for the earth we live on but also for downtrodden people as well. It is the context that decides when a word should be taken in one sense rather than the other or in both the senses.

Take word SHAMS, it too is used for brilliant light of divine guidance. In this era it is used for the quran as well as the sun in the sky. The same is true about the QAMAR ie it is not only used for the moon in the sky but a people as well.

Word NAHAAR is not only used for the daylight period but also for the time period of light of knowledge. Particularly when people have light of divine guidance and they live by it and as a result there is progress and prosperity ie it is brilliant time period for humanity.

The same is true about word LAIL. It is not only used for the night time but also for the time period of darkness of ignorance ie when people do not have knowledge or do not give importance to learning knowledge etc.

Likewise is the case for most others words used in the quran. Mullas are a bunch of stupid people who never think things through thoroughly and only talk nonsense about the quran and yet more stupid are so called educated people who follow them blindly giving mullas support to carry on as usual.

Situation of muslims worldwide is terrible only because they attribute lies to revelation of God in order to cover up its true message. It will get worse if they will not repent and reform by learning the message in the quran properly and following it faithfully.

It is mainly due to stupidity of mullas and their blind followers that deen of islam is misunderstood by nonmuslims who attack or criticise it. However it is their own fault as well because they too should try and understand the message in the quran properly independent of what muslim say about the quran. The main reason is it should be very much obvious for them to see that almost all muslims are most ignorant or rather stupid people on the face of the earth when it comes to having information about the creation of God and revelation of God and making proper sense of it. If muslims were a knowledgeable people they ought to be leading humanity but instead they are lagging behind rest of humanity.
 
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pcdoc24x7

Minister (2k+ posts)
My friend … he said that they followed Al-Azhar's fatwa to follow Makka's timing for Ramadan. Allah knows best and He is the one who can forgive someone just based on their intentions. May Allah accept all their prayers and fasts and also ours. Ameen.

Not to sound pedantic but he said Al azhar has its own fatwa but we in norway around 1200 muslims came toghter and decided to follow makka time.
 

pcdoc24x7

Minister (2k+ posts)
I am still trying to wrap my head around your long lecture. Also let's not be judgemental as we mere mortals cannot be judging each other. Leave this to The Creator of this universe.

Islam is not a religion but ADDEEN ie a way of life from God for humanity to live by that ensures people fulfil plan and purpose of God by living according to it.

It is a mission assigned by God for mankind to establish it worldwide for ensuring their own well being.

Deen of islam has nothing at all to do with nonsense of mullas which they attribute to it. For example, God did not create human beings to test them. It is nonsense of mullas.

The quranic use of words is mistranslated, misinterpreted and misrepresented. For example, the quran uses words like SAMAWAAT not just for heavens but also for people in position of power ie rulers, money lenders and mullas etc. Word ARD is used not only for the earth we live on but also for downtrodden people as well. It is the context that decides when a word should be taken in one sense rather than the other or in both the senses.

Take word SHAMS, it too is used for brilliant light of divine guidance. In this era it is used for the quran as well as the sun in the sky. The same is true about the QAMAR ie it is not only used for the moon in the sky but a people as well.

Word NAHAAR is not only used for the 24 hour day but also for the time period of light of knowledge. Particularly when people have light of divine guidance and they live by it and as a result there is progress and prosperity ie it is brilliant time period for humanity.

The same is true about word LAIL. It is not only used for the night time but also for the time period of darkness of ignorance ie when people do not have knowledge or do not give importance to learning knowledge etc.

Likewise is the case for most others words used in the quran. Mullas are a bunch of stupid people who never think things through thoroughly and only talk nonsense about the quran and yet more stupid are so called educated people who follow them blindly giving mullas support to carry on as usual.

Situation of muslims worldwide is terrible only because they attribute lies to revelation of God in order to cover up its true message. It will get worse if they will not repent and reform by learning the message in the quran properly and following it faithfully.

It is mainly due to stupidity of mullas and their blind followers that deen of islam is misunderstood by nonmuslims who attack or criticise it. However it is their own fault as well because they too should try and understand the message in the quran properly independent of what muslim say about the quran. The main reason is it should be very much obvious for them to see that almost all muslims are most ignorant or rather stupid people on the face of the earth when it comes to having information about the creation of God and revelation of God and making proper sense of it. If muslims were a knowledgeable people they ought to be leading humanity but instead they are lagging behind rest of humanity.
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I think instead of Sunrise and Sunset rule Muslims should follow 12 hours fast all over world .
This thing will create unity and equality during Ramazan among Muslims

If we can argue for One Eid then why not one Rooza in equality and unity

Dear liberal, unity for nonsense and stupidity only inflicts more and more harm and destruction upon humanity, Unity is vitally important for proper organisation and proper regulation of humanity so that people and resources as well as means of production and distribution could be managed properly for ensuring well being of mankind with help and full support of each other.

regards and all the best.
 

Scholar1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Islam has become a joke when people follow religion blindly.

God doesn’t reward religious behavior He rewards intellect. Think what fasting means not what Molvis tell you.

Zohar, Asr, Isha is time of day not time of Sun or Moon which idiots have started to follow so blindly.
We don't need advice from you Hindu paid pig ..