Empirical evidence for the correct transmission of Hadith

[such bolo]

The instant someone challenges your beliefs all your civility and manners go out the window, well done!


Then shouldn't there be more Hadith from the closet Sahaba of Rasool s.a.w like Abu Bakr r.a who spent the most time with the prophet s.a.w yet there are less than 50 hadith narrated from him and while there are 1000s of hadith narrated from Sahaba like Abu Huraira who spent less than 25 years with The Prophet s.a.w.

If this was such a critical issue shouldn't it be the other way round?

For your information Hazrat Abu Hurierah accepted islam in the biggning of year 7 AH ....According to him he spent 3 years with dedication with Prophet Muhammad sallil laaihi wasallam (saheeh bukhari) which comes to around 1000 days. There are not more than 1500 ahadees of Hazarat Abu Hureirah in Sihaa e Sitta and Masnad e Ahmed that are unique in their text and there are more 1500 ahadees in other books of ahadees.
3000 ahadees means 3 ahadeeth per day...is it too much for a person who dedicated all his 3 years spending time with Rasoolullah sallil laahu alaihi wasallam and than he made obligatory for himself to teach people and let the people know this knowledge?
These 3000 ahadees also include narrations from other sahabas that are called Mursil in hadeeth termanalogy. Also that most of these 3000 ahadees have also been narrated by other shaabas too...it means Hazarat Abu Hureirah is not unique in narrating all of them. Yes there are unique ones too but number of these unique ahadees is very small.

Your second question that why did not other Sahaba like Hazrat Umer and Abu baker etc did not narrate that much ahadees....this is in fact very lame arguments since every one knows that they all have been ruler and did not find time to sit in mosque and have student and classes (majlis) etc.There were many sahabas who dedicated themselves to spread the knowledge they had gathered...like Ibn Masood, Ibn Abbas Hazrat Ayesha etc. and others were busy in Jihad or doing jobs for Khilafah etc.

But which Hadith? Many Shia don't accept Sunni Hadith and many Sunnis don't accept Shia hadith. So there is no agreement of the ummah on this.

Shia not accepting Sunni ahadeeth does not prove any thing nor it makes authenticity of science of hadeeth as invalid. Shia have objection on authenticity of Quran too...they have objection on first 3 caliphs too..they term many Sahaba including wives of prophet sallil laahu alaihi wasallam as infidels. Should we live them all?

Doesn't matter but thats what they are.

No it doesn't. Hadith doesn't and cannot command anything. It is not scripture revealed from God but work of men. What you are referring to is sunnah, which is passed on through generations through Sunna tawatur, i.e continuous practice. Example salah, Quran does not specify how to pray but yet entire Muslim community regardless of sect basically pray the same way and 5 times a day even though they don't believe and accept each others hadith. Because the sunnah is not something new brought by Prophet Muhammad s.a.w but is Sunna Ibrahimi r.a as mentioned in the Quran. "I have decreed fasting on you as I had decreed fasting for the people before you" 2:183 Meaning this was already happening from before.
The problem is some, like you think Sunnah and Hadith are one of the same, when they are not. Hadith how ever does have a record how our Prophet s.a.w would carry out practice the sunnah but there are no extra commands in the hadith which are not in the Quran

And why would Allah s.a.w leave out his commands from his revealed book of which there is no doubt and leave it in the hands of man 100s of years after the passing of his last prophet.
Just doesn't make sense.

Your common sense has completely been distorted and full of ideas never existed or followed by early generation of Islam and to be very frank early generation of isalm has got authority over all opinions as well as news ideas. Ghamdi is nothing in front of the giants of this Ummah.
Secondly there has been no difference through out islam between hadeeth and sunnah, these two terminologies have been used for each other since the early days....this is a newly cooked flawed idea of Jawed Ahmed Ghamdi that say that Hadeeth is different and Sunnah is different.

I can refute this idea by quoting many example as well as by asking few questions and you will be just clueless....

Anyways...you are saying that Sunnah is what followed by all and can be proved through tawatur, and you gave examples of Namaz and Fasting....isnt it ridiculous?. Dont you know that Shia pray 5 namaz but in three times unlike sunnis who pray 5 namaaz in 5 different times. Azaan of shia and sunni is different...The way shia pay zakat is different, they have their own rules, even understanding of Quran between Hadeeth rejectors is different too...there are hadeeth rejectors who beleive in no namaz or hujj like we all do...they have their own understanding, there are hadeeth rejectors who pray 3 times a day, as according to them quran does not mention number of namaz.

So by just saying that every sunnah is proved through tawatar is factually incorrect and impossible and not practical. Definition of twatur, sunnah and hadeeth would all be drived from the understanding and definition of early scholars of islam as they are the one who coined these terminologies for us to make things easy to understand. Ghamdi is just trying to to forge and cheat by taking their terminologies and giving them news meaning. This is kind of highest level of intellectual dishonesty he has done.

And you know why has he done so?? just to get rid of acting upon hadeeth...As hadeeth is the only thing which defines us the real islam and the way of Prophet sallil laahu alaihi wasallam we all need to follow. Ghamdi wants his followers to be free from being practicing muslims..he wants them to be a just free muslim.

And if we believe you, we are to believe Muslims did not now how to pray, fast, do hajj properly before the hadith were complied some 200 years after the Prophet s.a.w passed away?
Again doesn't make sense.

How is it possible that out of 10 commands the Prophet s.a.w told 9 to people publicly and then told 1 to just one person or to a few? How can Khabr-e-wahid be a command ?

Nice language btw

They were written/remembered and acted upon at the time of Prophet sallil laahu alaihi wasallam...please stop spreading this lie that hadeeth was compiled after 200 years...this is a sheer lie. Mota Imam Malik is one of the oldest books of hadeeth available in its original form and was compiled around 150 AH...Imam Malik was born in 93 AH...and in his early years of life he started sitting in Majalis of hadeeth..it means by year 110 he had started listening learning and acquiring knowledge of hadeeth. Where did you get this notion of after 200 years??...even there were masahif's of other sahaba which were later on corroborated in other books of ahadees ....to learn more read this excellent piece:

https://www.facebook.com/Dr.Muhammad.Hamidullah/posts/1971380289563768

The only scripture revealed by Allah s.w.t and Allah s.w.t himself has promised will remain free from corruption till the end of time is the Quran. He has made no such promises or claims about anything written by man and he has said follow the Quran and Sunnah, not hadith. Once again I repeat the problem is some, like you think Sunnah and Hadith are one of the same, when they are not.

This is the same problem the Christians fell into, they mixed the hadith of Prophet Isa into the holy scripture. What are the books of Mark, Matthew, Luke and John in the Bibile if not Hadith of Prophet Isa?

If Allah s.w.t had not protected the Quran people like you would have done the same and added the Hadith and made it a part of the Quran too.

So think logically with your head and not emotionally with your heart.

By the way transmission of Quran has been done and favored by the same group of people who has transmitted hadeeth....this is your half cooked knowledge which makes you understand that Quran is some thing revealed and sent down on earth in written form in a book shape....how ridiculous your arguments are.
Allah himself has made the life actions and understanding of Prophet Muhammad sallil laahu alaihi wasllam as part of deen...and Allah has promised us to save the whole deen (Quran and its understanding) without understanding of Quran, Quran itself is nothing.
Listen the early comments of Jawed Ahmed Ghamdi and you will be shocked how cunningly he has changed his view.

وما علینا الا البلاغ

 

[Citizen X]

For your information Hazrat Abu Hurierah accepted islam in the biggning of year 7 AH ....According to him he spent 3 years with dedication with Prophet Muhammad sallil laaihi wasallam (saheeh bukhari) which comes to around 1000 days. There are not more than 1500 ahadees of Hazarat Abu Hureirah in Sihaa e Sitta and Masnad e Ahmed that are unique in their text and there are more 1500 ahadees in other books of ahadees.
3000 ahadees means 3 ahadeeth per day...is it too much for a person who dedicated all his 3 years spending time with Rasoolullah sallil laahu alaihi wasallam and than he made obligatory for himself to teach people let the people know this knowledge?
These 3000 ahadees also includes nerrations from other sahabas that are called Mursil in hadeeth termanalogy. Also that most of these 3000 ahadees have also been nerrated by other shaabas too...it means Hazarat Abu Hureirah is not unique in nerrating all of them. Yes there are unique ones also but number of these unique ahadees is very small.

Your second question that why did not other Sahaba like Hazrat Umer and Abu baker etc did not nerrate that much ahadees....this is in fact very lame arguments since every one knows that they all have bee ruler and did not find time to sit in mosque and have student and classes (majlis) etc.There were many sahabas who dedicated themselves to spread the knowledge they had gathered...like Ibn Masood, Ibn Abbas Hazrat Ayesha etc. .

3 years vs 30 years. Your argument doesn't hold water

Shia's not accepting Sunni ahadeeth does not prove any thing nor it makes authenticity of science of hadeeth as invalid. Shia have objection on authenticity of Quran too...they have objection on fist 3 calipsh too..they term many Sahaba including wives of prophet sallil laahu alaihi wasallam as infidels. Should we live them all?

You said there is consensus of entire ummah which I clearly demostrated to you there isn't, or do you not consider Shia as Muslims as part of the umma?

You sense is completely distorted and full of ideas never existed or followed by early generation of Islam and to be very frank early generation of isalm has got authority over all opinions as well as news ideas.
Secondly there has been no difference through out islam between hadeeth and sunnah....this is a newly cooked flawed idea of Jawed Ahmed Ghamdi.

No body said there is a difference. But Hadith and sunnah are not one of the same thing, regardless of what you were brought up to believe in.

Anyway...you are saying that Sunnah is what followed by all, and you gave example of Namaz and Fasting....isnt it rediculous. Dont you know that Shias pray 5 namaz but in three times unlike sunnis who pray 5 namaaz in 5 different times. Azaan of shia and sunni is different...The way shia pay zakat is diferrent, they have thier own rules. So by just saying that every sunnah is proved throught tawatar is factually incorrect and impossible. As defination of twatur, sunnah and hadeeth would all be drived from the understanding and defination of early scholars of islam as they are the one who coined this terminologies for us to make things easy to understand. Ghamdi is just trying to to forge and cheat by taking their terminologies and giving them news meaning. This highest level of intellectual dishonesty he has done.

And you know why has he done so?? just to get rid of acting upon hadeeth...As hadeeth is the only thing which defines us the real islam and the way we all need to follow. Ghamdi wants his followers to be free from being practicing muslims..he wants them to be a free muslim.

You can pray Zhur and Asr and Maghrib and Isha together. There is authentic hadith that the Prophet s.a.w while at home, not in a state of travel, without any fear and without any rain or adverse weather. Combined prayers and when people asked why he had done so, and he said so it becomes easy on my ummah.

Bet you big tout of hadith didn't even know this, because you just follow blindly what you are fed by your moulvis

They were wrriten/remembered and acted upon at the time of Prophet sallil laahu alaihi wasallam...please stop spreading this lie that hadeeth was compiled after 200 years...this is a sheer lie. Mota Imam Malik is one of the oldest books of hadeeth available in its original form and was compiled around 150 AH...Imam Malik was born in 93 AH...and in his early years of life he started sitting in Majalis of hadeeth..it means by year 110 he had started listning learning and acquiring knowledge of hadeeth. Where did you get this notion of after 200 years...even there were masahif's of other sahaba which were later on corroborated in other books of ahadees ....to learn more read this excellent piece:

That is your problem you follow Imam falana and Imam dhimkana instead of the actual book.

By the way transmission of Quran has been done and favored by the same group of people who has transmitted hadeeth

Big difference Transmission was by man but revealed by Allah s.w.t with a promise to protect it, same can't be said for anything written by man. That day you cuttar Ahl-e-Hadiths understand this, your eyes will open up.

Acha, aab aai baat samaj mein aai, you are also one of these baba and buzurg parast mureeds hence so close and thick minded. To you baba parast only your masla/firqa is true rest are all jahanumis

And Noorpuri is always lying and taking two parts of the same argument and presenting it as different viewpoints, nothing new for this makkar noorpuri all he does all day long is criticize others. Facebook and Youtube is filled with video of him criticizing others as well as being a liar and shady crook.

Another example of how he has taken someones statement out of context, twisted and turned it into something else

And since you brought up Ghamdi I'll post only his POV. I know you people don't have the courage to listen to such stuff but be a man for a change and try to watch the whole thing, just like I watched your noorpuri

 

[Wake up Pak]

Yeah and if you use a meaning that is incorrect, you are changing the meaning of the quran.

For example in English ball can mean a toy or a dance party.

The two words have completely different meaning so if you replace one with the other you are ineffext, changing the meaning of the text.

But this is not even the main issue. As you know languages change and evolve and Arabic is no different. Some of the meanings of words were created hundreds of years after the Quran was published. If you add those new meanins, you are literally changing and rewritting the Quran.

You gave an example of ball having different meanings but it all depends on the context of the sentence.
Same goes with any other language.
As I mentioned earlier Arabic words has 5 to 30 different meaning and it all depends on the context.
As for the languages yes they do change and evolve and same goes for Arabic but the language of the Quran is same and will remain the same till the end of time.
Even though the Arabs can read the Quranic Arabic but it is not the same what they speak and write.

 

[such bolo]

3 years vs 30 years. Your argument doesn't hold water

Whats your point? 3000 ahadeeth narrated by Hazart Abu Hurairah...or few hundred or less narrated by Hazart Umer?
As per your logic of 3 vs 30....Hazrat Abu Bakar should have been on the top of narrating hadeeth...otherwise the whole science of Hadeeth would have been considered invalid....
Are you sure...?? is this your argument?

What I have understood from your argument is that you are not aware of the basics of the way ahadeeth were narrated/accepted and transmitted.

Believing, reading, listening and practicing on sayings and actions (ahadeeth) of Prophet Muhammadﷺ is different then engaging and dedicating on self in knowledge based majalis wherein a sahabi narrates and transmits his knowledge of sayings of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ to the same kind of dedicated students.

You said there is consensus of entire ummah which I clearly demostrated to you there isn't, or do you not consider Shia as Muslims as part of the umma?

What "consensus" you are referring to? If you mean consensus on Sayings and Actions of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ as part of deen...than yes even shia do have agreement on it though they have their own compilations and they do not give regard to the compilations of Ahlus Sunnah....

My argument was that their disregarding our compilation can not be an argument to proof that the whole source and compilations of Ahadeeth and its sciences of Ahlus sunnah was just a futile exercise.

No body said there is a difference. But Hadith and sunnah are not one of the same thing, regardless of what you were brought up to believe in.

"No body said there is a difference"
"But Hadith and sunnah are not one"

Kiya yeh khula tazaad nahin?

lol

I am afraid one day Ghamdi and his blind muqallid would stand up and say "Haram" means house of any great personality and we are not ready to take the definition we are brought up to believe in, therefore, Ghamdi's house is also Haram like Haramain or Baitul Muqaddas.?

Some people have got their own sect starting from Ghamdi or Ghulam Ahmed Pervaiz...I relate myself to Ahlus Sunnah...My affiliation leads me to the first generation of this ummah (Sahaba and Tabieen and ultimately to the last and final Prophet Muhammad ur Rasoolullah ﷺ )...there are numerous quotation I can cite here to prove that specific meaning of Sunnah means actions and sayings of Prophet ﷺ and their transmission by the way of chain of narration was termed as Hadeeth. Both of these words have been intermingled/interlocked, and scholars of this ummah have never given any other definition of these words.

Instead of becoming a laughing stock, Ghamdi and his followers should come up with new terms giving them a meaning to suit their ideology...instead of cheating and involving in fraudulent intellectual activity (ike Qadyani sect) by taking terms of Ahlus Sunnah and giving them new meanings.

You can pray Zhur and Asr and Maghrib and Isha together. There is authentic hadith that the Prophet s.a.w while at home, not in a state of travel, without any fear and without any rain or adverse weather. Combined prayers and when people asked why he had done so, and he said so it becomes easy on my ummah.

Bet you big tout of hadith didn't even know this, because you just follow blindly what you are fed by your moulvis

I know this hadeeth very well and do act on it also when needed Alhamdulillah.
This hadeeth is about exceptions and not the general ruling. By mentioning the conditions of travel/rain or any fear was meant to let the people know that these are not the only exceptions...there might by other exceptions too (which was not known to the sahabi who narrated this hadeeth) and muslims are allowed to pray in any such condition wherein they fear that Salah might be missed. So instead of leaving salah you are allowed to combine two prayers in such scenarios.
What I was talking about was that Shia act on it as a general ruling and Ahlus Sunnah does not take it as general ruling, as there are hundreds of other narrations to prove this point.

That is your problem you follow Imam falana and Imam dhimkana instead of the actual book.

And the same actual book tells us to follow your Prophet ﷺ and your Prophet is a role model for you...the very same "actual book" was described and acted upon by the one on whom the book was revealed ﷺ....we are bound to take his guidance, his understanding and his commentary on this "actual" book. It was among his duties to read, narrate, describe and teach each bit of this "Actual Book"

کَمَآ اَرْسَلْنَا فِیْکُمْ رَسُوْلًا مِّنْکُمْ یَتْلُوْا عَلَیْکُمْ اٰیٰتِنَا وَ یُزَکِّیْکُمْ وَیُعَلِّمُکُمُ الْکِتٰبَ وَ الْحِکْمَۃَ وَ یُعَلِّمُکُمْ مَّا لَمْ تَکُوْنُوْا تَعْلَمُوْنَ
البقرہ ۲:۱۵۱
میں نے تمھارے درمیان خود تم میں سے ایک رسول بھیجا جو تمھیں میری آیات سناتا ہے۔ تمھارہ تزکیہ کرتا ہے، تمھیں کتاب اور حکمت کی تعلیم دیتا ہے اور تمھیں وہ باتیں سکھاتا ہے جو تم نہ جانتے تھے۔

Big difference Transmission was by man but revealed by Allah s.w.t with a promise to protect it, same can't be said for anything written by man. That day you cuttar Ahl-e-Hadiths understand this, your eyes will open up.

This is one of many misconceptions that Allah has only promised to protect Quran and not his other revelation that is "Hadeeth", Allah has promised and planned to protect the whole deen and this deen is incomplete without his ﷺ commentary on Quran through his Sayings understanding and actions...and only authentic source of accessing the saying and understanding of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ is Hadeeth.

إِنَّا نَحْنُ نَزَّلْنَا الذِّكْرَ وَإِنَّا لَهُ لَحَافِظُونَ

Allah has promised to protect Ziker and protecting a Ziker (reminder/message) without its true and sound understanding is pointless.

ماکان محمد ابا احد من رجالکم ولٰکن رسول اللہ و خاتم النبیین

Allah has made Prophet Muhammad ﷺ as last and final prophet and this is enough to understand that his deen would be protected and available till the last day so that people would not need other messenger to decide what they have differed in... Yes.. Rasoolullah ﷺ is the arbitrator between us and Quran. His sound and authentic commentory/sayings/actions (hadeeth) are enough to understand and act upon Quran.

Acha, aab aai baat samaj mein aai, you are also one of these baba and buzurg parast mureeds hence so close and thick minded. To you baba parast only your masla/firqa is true rest are all jahanumis.

Following the Sayings/actions and commentary of Rasoolullah ﷺ is baba parasti? Are in your senses??

And Noorpuri is always lying and taking two parts of the same argument and presenting it as different viewpoints, nothing new for this makkar noorpuri all he does all day long is criticize others. Facebook and Youtube is filled with video of him criticizing others as well as being a liar and shady crook.

Another example of how he has taken someones statement out of context, twisted and turned it into something else

nothing concret...just trying to fire in the air...
It is his responsibility to answer hundreds of videos that has been recorded citing his specific arguments...in this video he has not answered to any of these specific video. Answering on generalized things would not serve him any more....let him be more specific now.

Or If he is man enough ask him to sit face to face with Hafiz Abu Yahya....I promise you that Hafiz Abu Yahya would come along with me...and no one else would be there from his side...and he (engineer mirza) can sit in comfort of his house or centre. Majlis would be recorded and go live. Thats the only pre condition. Kiya khayal hey?

And since you brought up Ghamdi I'll post only his POV. I know you people don't have the courage to listen to such stuff but be a man for a change and try to watch the whole thing, just like I watched your noorpuri

According to this half cooked scholar the authority of Sayings and actions of Rasoolullah ﷺ was meant for the people of his time only...what a low life he is...only one ayah is enough to demolish whole his argument is

وَ مَاۤ اَرۡسَلۡنٰکَ اِلَّا کَآفَّۃً لِّلنَّاسِ بَشِیۡرًا وَّ نَذِیۡرًا
اور (اے نبی) ہم نے نہیں بھیجا ہے آپﷺ کو مگر تمام نوعِ انسانی کے لئے بشیر ونذیر بنا کر

when we say that for the whole mankind to come, there comes his authority on every one...whether the one who was present at his time and place or not...whoever listens about him is bound to follow him.

وما علینا البلاغ

 

[Citizen X]

This is one of many misconceptions that Allah has only promised to protect Quran and not his other revelation that is "Hadeeth"

And there is absolutely no point in going forward with this conversation when you have such twisted and distorted beliefs as hadeeth being revelation from Allah s.w.t when it is clearly work of man.

I see no difference between you and the Christians, who took their "hadith" and combined it with the book of Allah revealed to them and made an entire new book.

The Shia offshoot Alwaites already believe Hazrat Ali r.a as God ( nauzbilah ) give a couple of more 100 years to you people and you will also mix the hadith into the Quran and start assigning divinity to our Prophet s.a.w ( nauzbilah )

Already more than 3/4th there, Brelvis believe the Prophet s.a.w was not Bashar but Noor. When you have concepts like the prophet being noor and hadith also being god revelation the gap to cross into mushrik territory is very very very narrow indeed.

May Allah s.w.t guide you and us all and away such deviant and mushrik thoughts and practices. Ameen

 

[such bolo]

And there is absolutely no point in going forward with this conversation when you have such twisted and distorted beliefs as hadeeth being revelation from Allah s.w.t when it is clearly work of man.

I see no difference between you and the Christians, who took their "hadith" and combined it with the book of Allah revealed to them and made an entire new book.

The Shia offshoot Alwaites already believe Hazrat Ali r.a as God ( nauzbilah ) give a couple of more 100 years to you people and you will also mix the hadith into the Quran and start assigning divinity to our Prophet s.a.w ( nauzbilah )

Already more than 3/4th there, Brelvis believe the Prophet s.a.w was not Bashar but Noor. When you have concepts like the prophet being noor and hadith also being god revelation the gap to cross into mushrik territory is very very very narrow indeed.

May Allah s.w.t guide you and us all and away such deviant and mushrik thoughts and practices. Ameen

Compilation of Hadeeth was as work of man as Quran was....
Sahabas were the one who wrote quran and memorized it, and later on after the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ they collected Quran, compiled it, made copies of it and then published it....Weren't sahaba humans?? Didnt the man work involved in compilation/preservation of Quran?

Quran is completely a separate book and no one is mixing hadeeth with Quran....but we muslims through out from the day one believe that Life/sayings and actions of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ are part of deen and thats what Quran tells us....Quran alone is not enough to be able to understand the whole deen that Allah has made obligatory on all humans to follow....

Quran mentions things in abstract way where as details of those mentions can only be found in Hadeeth...

Quran says perform salah...hadeeth tells us how to pray...
Quran tells us that perform Hujj....Hadeeth tells us that how and when to perform and who to perform Hujj....
Quran tells us to pay Zakah....but Hadeeth would describe and give us details that who to pay whom to pay and how much to pay....

Rejecting Hadeeth is like rejecting your deen....

There are thousands of things which are not mentioned in Quran in details and thats how Allah wanted the Quran to be....Allah wanted the life of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ as role model for all and he made so...You and me has no right to object on it....therefore Allah is the one who made miraculous arrangements to preserve the life of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ as He made arrangements to preserve the Holy book Quran..
Alhamdulillah

 

[Citizen X]

Oh now we are back peddling after claiming Hadith is also revelation from God.

Compilation of Hadeeth was as work of man as Quran was....
Sahabas were the one who wrote quran and memorized it, and later on after the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ they collected Quran, compiled it, made copies of it and then published it....Weren't sahaba humans?? Didnt the man work involved in compilation/preservation of Quran?

Once again Quran revelation from Allah, Hadith NOT revelation from Allah. No matter how many twists and turns you make, this fact doesn't change.

Quran is completely a separate book and no one is mixing hadeeth with Quran

Yes you are

Quran alone is not enough to be able to understand the whole deen that Allah has made obligatory on all humans to follow....

Yes it is, and it says so too. Or do you want to dispute his word?

hadeeth tells us how to pray...

No it doesn't. Salah is part of the Sunnah as is Hajj and zakah are, which have been carried on from before as I already proved to you previously from the Quran. Salah, Fast, Hajj were not foreign concept to the people hence Quran didn't bother with minute details of the Sunnah which would have made the Quran twice it size filled with pedantic details

Hadith shows us how our beloved Prophet s.a.w preferred to fulfill these obligations and perform the Sunnah in the most ehsan way.

Rejecting Hadeeth is like rejecting your deen

No one is rejecting Hadith, just taking them for what they are. If

Allah wanted the life of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ as role model for all and he made so...You and me has no right to object on it

No one is rejecting or objecting to it. And Hadith is a beautiful and great treasure of it
You make way too many assumptions!

You made a whole speech on your soapbox but with nothing new in it

Hadith is what it is, a record of the times and life of the Prophet s.a.w. And not some sacred holy scripture.

People like you take every word of it as holy commandment when it just isn't.

Let me take a small test, with a very basic "masoomana sawal"

You think keeping a beard is part of Islam? Or wearing clothes above your ankles ?

If yes, why and what if someone doesn't then what?