Details of Ghazwa-e-Hind by Orya Maqbool Jan

tahirmajid

Minister (2k+ posts)
In danishwaro ki 99% batein fake saabit hoti hain, Ghaza-e-hind pata nahi kub hona hay ye danishwar khawa-ma-khawa Mamey bantey rahtey hain. 1400 saal pahley Ghaza-e-hind ki prediction hui thi exact time kisi ko bhi maloom nahi. 1400 saal se ab tuk kitney hi mulk baney or khatam ho gaey. Jub ye event hoga tub tuk geographical condition Kia hogi koi nahi janta. Mager ye khud sakhta danishwar has roz ghazwa shoro kar kay sotey hain
 

Aliimran1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
میں نے اس ویڈیو کو نہیں سنا اور نہ سننے جا رہا ہوں مگر اس کے ٹائٹل کے مطابق جواب عرض ہے کہ اگر متفقہ الہہ احادیث میں میں غزوہ ہند کا ذکر ہے تو میں کیا ہر مسلمان کا اس پر ایمان لازم ہے اگر کوئی اس سے انکاری ہے تو اسے دائرہ اسلام سے خارج سمجھا جائے
دوسرے اگر یہ بنائی گئی حدیث ہے تو یہ نبی کریم پر بہتان باندھنے والی بات ہے یہ بات بھی مسلمانوں کو بے ادبی اور دائرہ اسلام سے خارج کرتی ہے لہذا عالم دین سے درخواست ہے کہ اس پر روشنی ڈالیں اور اس بحث کو ہمیشہ کے لئے ختم کیا جائے
میں ہندوستان کی طرف سے مسلط کی جانے والی جنگ کو پاکستان اور اسلام کے بقا کی جنگ سمجھتا ہوں کیوں کہ اس کا اثر جہاں ہندوستان پاکستان بنگلہ دیش کے مسلمانوں پر پڑے گا وہاں ہی س کا اثر باقی دنیا کے بسنے والے مسلمانوں کی زندگیوں اور حقوق کے حصول پر بھی پڑے گا
اس لئے میری گزارش ہے کہ اسے صرف مذھبی آزادی کی جنگ نہ سمجھا جائے بلکہ انسانی حقوق کی اجتمائی جنگ کے طور پر لڑا جائے
 
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Saboo

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

اوریہ مقبول ، زید حامد اور ڈاکٹر شاہد مسود بھی
غزوہ ہند کے نام پر اٹینشن سیک کرنے والے ہیں
. . . . . . . .


اوریا مقبول جان کی باتوں کو آپ ہلکا مت لیں؟
اس سے پہلے یہ نواز اور زرداری کے جیل جانے کی
پیشنگوئی کر چکا ہے؟ ..... 😀
 

imeeru

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
You can all disagree with his interpretation, but be very mindful that Rasullulah (saww) is being quoted here...what if the Hadith is saheeh and it's an actual words of our beloved Prophet...
Don't be disrespectful in any way...
In such cases always discuss merits of the issue academically rather having a laugh on it.....
 

saneopinion

MPA (400+ posts)
You can all disagree with his interpretation, but be very mindful that Rasullulah (saww) is being quoted here...what if the Hadith is saheeh and it's an actual words of our beloved Prophet...
Don't be disrespectful in any way...
In such cases always discuss merits of the issue academically rather having a laugh on it.....
And what if the words are right but the way he is presenting it are wrong. Two days ago this guy was all about how Pakistani is going to lead GeH and now he is saying that is not the case. Sirf apni dukaan chamkanay kay liye is banday nay GeH jaisay subject ko football match bana kay rakh diya hai ... Doesn't that make him a Ghustakh?
 

imeeru

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
And what if the words are right but the way he is presenting it are wrong. Two days ago this guy was all about how Pakistani is going to lead GeH and now he is saying that is not the case. Sirf apni dukaan chamkanay kay liye is banday nay GeH jaisay subject ko football match bana kay rakh diya hai ... Doesn't that make him a Ghustakh?
I never said you can't disagree with him, I'm just saying we are dealing Hadith's interpretation, just don't make fun of that...
Have academic discussion, talk about the authenticity of Hadith or it's interpretation...
I've seen so many time people making fun of that Hadith (naudubillah)....
Just because they don't like the person who is stating it or don't like his interpretation..
Just ridiculous...
 

TONIC

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I think Gazwa E Hind had already happened, the Hadith of Jesus PBUH and Gazwa E Hind is not a interlinked Hadith and seems like it is discussing two events in a single Hadith.
WalhuAlam.
 

PIND-WALA

Minister (2k+ posts)
You can all disagree with his interpretation, but be very mindful that Rasullulah (saww) is being quoted here...what if the Hadith is saheeh and it's an actual words of our beloved Prophet...
Don't be disrespectful in any way...
In such cases always discuss merits of the issue academically rather having a laugh on it.....
Authentic ahadees are only 6 books. Is this hadees mentioned in there ?
 

imeeru

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Authentic ahadees are only 6 books. Is this hadees mentioned in there ?
You're drawing three assumptions here;
1. Whatever Rasullulah (saww) has said it's included in Sahih Sitta
2. There's nothing out of Sahih Sitta can be authentic.
3. Whatever is mentioned in Sahih Sitta is all authentic. (i.e Authentic like Quran)
Can you really substantiate your such such a tall claim you're making?
 

Ajnabi-log

Citizen
Orya maqbool jan is a fascist who wants Pakistan to attack the rest of the world because of his own extreme beliefs.
People like him can be dangerous for societies.
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Rule 1)Do not trust anything that is told which is not based upon the quran.

Rule 2)Do not believe or accept any interpretation of the quran which causes conflict within the text of the quran or between the quranic text and real world realities.

All this makes it necessary that first people try and understand the quranic text properly.

Any report which talks about things against the God set laws of nature, on basis of which this world works or operates, is false.

So don't be fooled by foolish people who have not bothered to learn how to think properly.

Having information about something and having sense to understand it properly are two different things.
 

PIND-WALA

Minister (2k+ posts)
You're drawing three assumptions here;
1. Whatever Rasullulah (saww) has said it's included in Sahih Sitta
2. There's nothing out of Sahih Sitta can be authentic.
3. Whatever is mentioned in Sahih Sitta is all authentic. (i.e Authentic like Quran)
Can you really substantiate your such such a tall claim you're making?
What we have read and heard is that those 6 books went through extreme scrutiny when they were compiled. So they ought to be authentic.
Anything not mentioned in those books may not be.
Offcourse not everything prophet said is included in those books. But remember these books were compiled by some of the very well read and articulate sahaba at that time and if they did not include this hadees than there was not enough evidence/reason to do so and thats why i think it is cautious approach to not qoute such hadees . Remember accuracy and bidah are 2 important issues in islam and it is better to err of the side of the caution.
 
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