Are Muslim Armies Real cause of Muslim Woes

[Imran Siddiqi]

Yahya.Kan Posted something on another thread related to Morsi.
I wanted to respond with a new thread. Please do not merge at least today. Sorry my PC does not have urdu typing yet so you will have to put up with my roman...

کیا یہ محض ایک اتفاق ہے کہ اس وقت مسلم دنیا میں سب سے زیادہ دہشت گردی اور بد امنی کا شکار وہی مسلم ممالک ہیں جن کی فوجیں سب سے بڑی اور طاقتور ہیں
Iskee Wajah Yeh hai keh, Non Muslims ka target woh mulk hee hain jin kee fauj strong hai. IRAQ LIBYA gone, Syria under progress and Pakistan next, IRAN has surrendered and Joined them. Who can stop Greater Israel after that. No one. and that is the PLAN. You may not have seen it in INDIA but here in Pakistan most people know about it.

کیا یہ بھی ایک اتفاق ہے کہ جن مسلم ملکوں میں امور مملکت میں فوج کی مداخلت پہلے سے کم ہوئی وہ ملک زیادہ طاقتور اور ترقی یافتہ ہیں جیسے ترکی
Taqat ka Kiya Miyar hai. Turks pichlay 60 saal say bheek maang rahay hain europe ko join karnay kee. It is only when Erdogan came to power they got some dignity back.

کیا یہ بھی قابل توجہ بات نہیں کہ وہ مسلم ممالک جہاں فوج کی تعداد کم اور مداخلت بلکل نہیں وہ آگے بڑتے چلے جا رہے ہیں جیسے ملایشیا
Malysia stands no where as a world power. Paisa toh Japan aur saudi arab ke pas bhi hai per Izzat koi naheen. Ghair Mulkee aaj bhi baithay howay hain wahan per. Aap naheen Samjhogay Banya Metality different hoatee hai.

کیا یہ بات بھی قبل غور نہیں کہ کہ جتنی بھی مسلم مزاحمتی تحریکیں اٹھ رہی ہیں تمام کی تمام ان ممالک سے اٹھ رہی ہیں جہاں مسلم فوجیں انتہائی طاقتور ہیں یا فوجی ڈکٹیٹر حکمرانی کر رہی ہیں
Muzahimatee Tehreeken Zindah Qom Ki nishani hoatee hain. IS per roshni daal do ke Yeh Dictator kiss ki MADAD se Hukumat Kartay hain apnay Awam per. Saudi King ko hee laylo jawab mil jaey ga.

کیا یہ بات بھی درست نہیں کہ اس وقت دنیا میں سب سے زیادہ قتل عام ان ممالک میں ہو رہا ہے جہاں مسلم فوجیں بڑی تعداد میں موجود ہیں
Ye baat Saheeh hai. New world order is not possible without removing Big Armies from Muslim World since every other country is already West Looking. But Wait the Chinese world order is in the making and you will wake up to new realities soon specially in your country of BHARAT

کیا یہ بات بھی درست نہیں کہ وہ مسلم ممالک جہاں امریکی اڈے موجود ہیں کہیں زیادہ پر امن ہیں ان مسلم ممالک کی نسبت جہاں مسلم فوجیں امن و امان کی ذمّ دار ہیں
Matlab yeh hai ke Apnay mulkon mein Amreeke Adday banwaalain saaray Islamic countries. Beghairtee ki bhi had hoatee hai yaar. Aqal ke andhay ko bhi samajh ajaana chaaheeay ke Yeh Bad Amni Is liay hee tohg hai ke Adday chaaheeay hain.

کیا یہ بھی حقیقت نہیں کہ اس وقت تمام بڑی مسلم فوجیں اپنے ہی شہریوں سے جنگ میں مصروف ہیں اور کوئی ایک بھی فوج کسی غیر مسلم ملک سے برسرے پیکار نہیں
Kam se Kam Pakistan ki had tak to yeh baat saheeh naheen hai. Pakistani fauj iss waqt 4th aur 5th generation warfare mein engage hai jiss mein proxies ke through jang laree jaatee hai. Fikar Na karo yeh jang duniya keh doosray shehroon main bhi laree jaaeygee. Aap ka number bhi aaey ga.

تو کیا کہنا درست ہو گا کہ اس وقت مسلم ممالک میں فساد کی سب سے بڑی وجہ یہی مسلم فوجیں ہیں
Jee Naheen Iss Waqt Muslim Dunya mein Inteshar ki Wajah ye Mentatlity hai ke " NO WAR WITH ISLAM BUT WAR WITHIN ISLAM" I wonder who said that after 9/11.

اور اگر آگے بڑنا ہے تو ان مسلم فوجوں سے چھٹکارا حاصل کرنا ہو گا
Asal baat per Aagaey nay. Keep on dreaming, It is Free.....................​

 

[Ahud1]

Muslmanon ko kisi khaas muqsad k liey eik bhatti mien sey guzara jaya ja raha hey
liya jaey ga in sey kaam duniya ki imamat ka

 

[Ahud1]

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tu hey he kisi Foji ka bacha jisey apney aba sey dheir sari shikyat hien ju wo yehan aa k un k khilaf bharaas nikaalta hey

 

[Conservative liberal]

m samjha ap 'muslim fojiyun' ki taref kar rahe hain... end tu kch aur he nikla lol

 

[yahya.khan]

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tu hey he kisi Foji ka bacha jisey apney aba sey dheir sari shikyat hien ju wo yehan aa k un k khilaf bharaas nikaalta hey

کم از کم تیری طرح امام بخاری کی احادیث کے خلاف الٹا سیدھا نہیں بولتا
تیرے نزدیک امام بخاری چھوٹے اور جرنیل راحیل، کیانی اور پاشا بڑے ہوں گے
میرے نزدیک نہیں

 

[yahya.khan]

@imran siddiqui
all of your answers are based on assumption and conspiracy theories .not a single one is based on facts
according to you Japan and Malaysia have no respect in World but Pakistan has.............really what else can i say ..............
no need to for discussion even
you live in the same world where our army lives ........dreams ....come to reality

 

[drkjke]

these are not "muslim" armies.correct yourself!
those armies who in kufar,s service oppress islam and muslims of their own nations are not "muslim".even calling them muslim is blasphemy!

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a muslim is employed by Allah.his loyalty lies to Allah alone.while a nonmuslim army man is slave of order.if high command orders him to bomb and destroy the mosques (as has happened a lot in past 10 years) he will do this gladly and will be relaxed that due to his services he will get a plot and farm house at retirmenet from where he will send his kids to europe for study .so he will not say no to an order against islam

there is a sahih hadeeth that says that a human cant obey any authority that tells him to do something against Allah,s deen.even if a person,s life is thraetened (if he does not obey order) than he must get killed rather than harm Allah,s deen for short life of this world!
this is islam.

but what we see here in pakistan?
forces gladly serve americans war against muslims but if some ethnic/secular group is threat to pakistan (like mqm or balochi national front) than generals themselves hesitate to do any action against them because it may "anger" the people in army belonging to these ethnic groups!

time of the end is very near .people!repent!

 

[Imran Siddiqi]

@imran siddiqui
all of your answers are based on assumption and conspiracy theories .not a single one is based on facts
according to you Japan and Malaysia have no respect in World but Pakistan has.............really what else can i say ..............
no need to for discussion even
you live in the same world where our army lives ........dreams ....come to reality

I never said that Pakistan has respect. The reason for our disrespect is not our army. It is our dishonesty and please do not blame the armies for that alone. We are all dishonest whether it is army or politicians. Japan and Malaysia both have honest people in general and enjoy respect due to that However Japan is an occupied land. If that is your model for nation like Pakistan then keep on dreaming it will not happen. Or may be you want Pakistan to be like Bhutan and Nepal.... Indian Subservient territories then keep on dreaming it will not happen. As far as my arguments are based on assumptions, I will highly recommend that you spend some time on RAND and some other think tanks and you will get the answers.

 

[Almullah]

We will see when & if even chaptee armies will fight back - but rest assured Muslim armies will annihilate but NOT chaptee army they are also corrupted ? Machee = chaptee army.