کیا گستاخ رسول علیہ السلام کی سزا صرف موت ہے؟ توبہ بھی قبول نہیں ؟

RajaPakistani

Voter (50+ posts)

کیا گستاخ رسول علیہ السلام کی سزا صرف اور صرف موت ہے؟ توبہ بھی قبول نہیں ؟ اس ویڈیو میں انجینئیر صاحب نے گستاخ رسول کی توبہ کے حوالے سے بات کی ہے... ہمارے ملک میں دوسروں پر جھوٹا گستاخ کا فتویٰ لگا دیا جاتا ہے، یہ بری بات ہے... لیکن پھر یہ کہنا کے اس کی توبہ بھی قبول نہیں..... یہ تو اور بھی گھناونا عمل ہے...
 

Landmark

Minister (2k+ posts)

ooh noore oh Noore

tari----- oh noore

jano ne yemanazraha deka ha who samij ghe hun ghe

 

Citizen X

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کیا گستاخ رسول علیہ السلام کی سزا صرف اور صرف موت ہے؟ توبہ بھی قبول نہیں ؟ اس ویڈیو میں انجینئیر صاحب نے گستاخ رسول کی توبہ کے حوالے سے بات کی ہے... ہمارے ملک میں دوسروں پر جھوٹا گستاخ کا فتویٰ لگا دیا جاتا ہے، یہ بری بات ہے... لیکن پھر یہ کہنا کے اس کی توبہ بھی قبول نہیں..... یہ تو اور بھی گھناونا عمل ہے...
Eng Saab bhi dandi maar gaye. In his early videos he also said ghustakh should be killed and tauba only accepted before he gets caught, after he gets caught there is no taubah. And for sake of argument lets say he got enlightened and changed his stance, not an issue, people learn throughout their lives and their point of view changes as they acquire knowledge, but at the end of the day Eng Saab still believes that if all conditions are met then capital punishment is justified for blasphemy,

But the thing is, there is no concept of blasphemy in Islam, its all a mullah created fitna.
 

jani1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
مگر یہ کہنے والے تو آپکے بھائی بند بریلوی ہی ہیں۔
.. ہمارے ملک میں دوسروں پر جھوٹا گستاخ کا فتویٰ لگا دیا جاتا ہے، یہ بری بات ہے... لیکن پھر یہ کہنا کے اس کی توبہ بھی قبول نہیں..... یہ تو اور بھی گھناونا عمل ہے...
 

Cyber_Security

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Eng Saab bhi dandi maar gaye. In his early videos he also said ghustakh should be killed and tauba only accepted before he gets caught, after he gets caught there is no taubah. And for sake of argument lets say he got enlightened and changed his stance, not an issue, people learn throughout their lives and their point of view changes as they acquire knowledge, but at the end of the day Eng Saab still believes that if all conditions are met then capital punishment is justified for blasphemy,

But the thing is, there is no concept of blasphemy in Islam, its all a mullah created fitna.
That is what you are saying, sitting in your bedroom in the UAE with an anonymous identity.

If you were in Pakistan and someone asked you if you had said that " there is no concept of blasphemy in Islam, its all a mullah created fitna. " then I am quite sure you will straightaway deny it, and then you will shout " گستاخ رسول کی ایک سزا ، سر تن سے جدا سر تن سے جدا "
 

Citizen X

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That is what you are saying, sitting in your bedroom in the UAE with an anonymous identity.

If you were in Pakistan and someone asked you if you had said that " there is no concept of blasphemy in Islam, its all a mullah created fitna. " then I am quite sure you will straightaway deny it, and then you will shout " گستاخ رسول کی ایک سزا ، سر تن سے جدا سر تن سے جدا "
Of course I would, you think I'm stupid and want to end up like that poor Sri Lankan! Is jahil jhaatay ka koun muqabila kare ga bhai!
 

Kamboz

Minister (2k+ posts)
Eng Saab bhi dandi maar gaye. In his early videos he also said ghustakh should be killed and tauba only accepted before he gets caught, after he gets caught there is no taubah. And for sake of argument lets say he got enlightened and changed his stance, not an issue, people learn throughout their lives and their point of view changes as they acquire knowledge, but at the end of the day Eng Saab still believes that if all conditions are met then capital punishment is justified for blasphemy,

But the thing is, there is no concept of blasphemy in Islam, its all a mullah created fitna.
Engineer is a fitna himself. He is creating a sixth firqa. For centuries 4 Imams were followed by the Ummah, then came Ahl Hadees about 200 years ago and started 5th group.
But now Mirza says, all 5 are Batil (Kufr) I am the only one on Haq. so he will start his own firqa and also new masjids being built , which are supposedly belonging to this Jhangwai group
 

Citizen X

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Engineer is a fitna himself. He is creating a sixth firqa. For centuries 4 Imams were followed by the Ummah, then came Ahl Hadees about 200 years ago and started 5th group.
But now Mirza says, all 5 are Batil (Kufr) I am the only one on Haq. so he will start his own firqa and also new masjids being built , which are supposedly belonging to this Jhangwai group
I dunno about his own firqa because there is nothing that he has said and done that points to that, but I agree on his stance that all firqas are batil.
 

Kamboz

Minister (2k+ posts)
I dunno about his own firqa because there is nothing that he has said and done that points to that, but I agree on his stance that all firqas are batil.
Everyone says we are only muslims or true muslim.... same with Mirza, he says, his group is the only one on the straight path, while the whole ummah, including the 4 great Imams, Abu Hanifa, Imam Malik, Imam Hamnbali and Imam Shafi. They are all zero, while only Engineer was able to understand the Deen correctly.
Now anyone following will say, i am muslim only, no firqa.. others will say we are also muslim, no firqa. Then he will ask who's teaching you follow and reply will come , Mirza Engineer. so there you have it. New firqa found.
 

Citizen X

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including the 4 great Imams, Abu Hanifa, Imam Malik, Imam Hamnbali and Imam Shafi. They are all zero,
Well to be honest he's never said that, not to be defending him but he's never even said the great babas like Abdul Qadir Gilani are 0, he always blames their followers for twisting their teachings.

I am muslim only, no firqa
Well that's the way it should be.

Then he will ask who's teaching you follow and reply will come , Mirza Engineer. so there you have it. New firqa found.
The thing is we people are so forced to categorize everyone we are quick to label everyone and everything. This same accusation is also levied on Ghamdi saab saying he's created a new firqa, Ghamdiyat.

I also claim to be only a Muslim, I listen to everyone from Ghamdi Saab, Abu Layth, Shabbir Ali to even regular bhaand moulvis sometimes like Tariq Masood and Eng Mirza. But I've been called everything under the sun here. Kaffir, murtad, mulhid, mukir, qaidiyani, perwezi etc etc too many to even remember.

Unless Eng comes out openly and declares a firqa himself, until then I will take him for his word.
 

monkk

Senator (1k+ posts)
Everyone says we are only muslims or true muslim.... same with Mirza, he says, his group is the only one on the straight path, while the whole ummah, including the 4 great Imams, Abu Hanifa, Imam Malik, Imam Hamnbali and Imam Shafi. They are all zero, while only Engineer was able to understand the Deen correctly.
Now anyone following will say, i am muslim only, no firqa.. others will say we are also muslim, no firqa. Then he will ask who's teaching you follow and reply will come , Mirza Engineer. so there you have it. New firqa found.

no! people come one same conclusions at their own specially when they read quran.
No Eng. is the one who can explain it to others.

He is not alone to think there is lot .. a lot of bushtit going on in the name of religion among pakistanis
 

akbar41

Senator (1k+ posts)
One more wahabi namoona, I don’t listen this idiot bastard, any one know his qualifications.
To many YouTube molvi and sahafi ufff
 

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