Why are threads about Islamic history allowed here?

Kavalier

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Salam to all forum members and Mods,

I have been seeing that for the last two weeks or so, there have been tons and tons of threads being opened on political history of Arabian countries, involving Waqai-e-Karbala and asscoaited happenings. In these threads, strange kind of language is being used, from two different schools of thoughts. But the kind of language being used is deplorable and condemnable from both sides.

I requested many a times before too that let us leave this all and try to concentrate on our present, muslims have been always so, right from the death of Prophet Muhammad pbuh, there has been a sour history, in which there is only blood shed and barbarianism. What we can do is to learn from this bad history and understand that we will never earn anything from these beliefs. It is not about islam at all to believe in such historic events and stories. Islam is more about today, it is more about love and peace and not about division and abusing each other.... On top of it, such discussions will never change the history and will also never make others accept the oppositions' version. Then what is the objective of such useless threads which only create rift and bad taste for all readers.

There might be some from both sides thinking that they are doing some holy job by wirting some pieces, I know one thing that this will never increase or decrease any honours that those people had. Those personalities were also humans and they made mistakes, all of them, what we can do is to not keep following the legacy of those mistakes and try to understand the real spirit of our religion. We are all humans first, so whatever we think and whatever our beliefs are, these should be only with us, where our nose ends , there ends our belief also. No one should have a right to force his or her opinion on others.

To add to this all, I would also wish and request govt to strictly ban the use of loud speakers for everybody. Not just the loud speakers, but also Jalsas, jaloos etc, either is from Sunnis for Milads etc or it is from Shias or from any other sects. There should be a defined worship place for all religions and sects, with closed bounderies and only inhouse speakers. This is really unbearable for normal people who are disturbed by loud music, bayans and jusrgen/mantras etc.

This is a request to mods as well that they should apply a more stricter policy about thread opening and not allow such threads.
 
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sumisrar

Minister (2k+ posts)
Last week spent about 20-25 hours watching videos of both sides

What i learnt is

Whoever created these difference, created in such an organised way that its very difficult to resolve these issues now.

Both parties, give reference for their side and muslim of today doesnt have / doesnt want to spend time to find out the reality.

Its better to keep calm and move on without talking about the differences.

Agreed with thread starter that its better to ban all hate preachers who are responsible for differences

Confine the religious activities within boundaries, whoever wants to attend should go there and enjoy but not at the cost of rest of the society.

If we allowed these hate preachers for more, expect fate like Syria ( a battle ground for sponsors of hate and hell for poor / innocent muslims)
 

Kavalier

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I agree that a very big chunk of society has been hijacked by just few nuts...... Most people do not want to involve in such useless discussions and activities.



Last week spent about 20-25 hours watching videos of both sides

What i learnt is

Whoever created these difference, created in such an organised way that its very difficult to resolve these issues now.

Both parties, give reference for their side and muslim of today doesnt have / doesnt want to spend time to find out the reality.

Its better to keep calm and move on without talking about the differences.

Agreed with thread starter that its better to ban all hate preachers who are responsible for differences

Confine the religious activities within boundaries, whoever wants to attend should go there and enjoy but not at the cost of rest of the society.

If we allowed these hate preachers for more, expect fate like Syria ( a battle ground for sponsors of hate and hell for poor / innocent muslims)
 

30-Maar Khan

Senator (1k+ posts)
Agreed mate. I don't know what they want to exract from the true/false stories of the past?

One was right other was wrong so what it to do to ourselves? And mind it these are not believes. Hazrat Ali RA and Hazrat Hussain RA had tried their level best to established Islamic Khilafa but couln't succeded...the rest is history. So leave it aside. Whatever done is done....
 
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Kavalier

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
This is what I mean, let bygones be bygones and try to be better humans, Islam is there to make us better humans. What is the definition of a muslim? I guess nothing else that a better human and a good human being always thinks about others first, not for himself or his beliefs.....

Agreed mate. I don't what they want exract from the true/false stories of the past. One was right other was wrong so what is to do to ourselves? And mind it these are not believes. Hazrat Ali RA and Hazrat Hussain RA had tried to established Islamic Khilafat but couln't succeded...the rest is history. So leave it aside. Whatever done is done
 

30-Maar Khan

Senator (1k+ posts)
This is what I mean, let bygones be bygones and try to be better humans, Islam is there to make us better humans. What is the definition of a muslim? I guess nothing else that a better human and a good human being always thinks about others first, not for himself or his beliefs.....

But these are not that easy to leave as the whole 'Roti Rozi' is associated with this Firqa Parasti.

If all become same one Muslim then there wouldn't be any need of 3-5 different mosques in a street or village so where will those Mullahs/ Imam go?

The same applies to the Madrassas of various sacts and from these both they collect the hell of Chanda.

They write books against each other so earn from their as well.....

In short it is not the fight of Islam or Love of Prophet pbuh or Ahlebait or Sahaba but it is the fight for MONEY......
 

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