Punjab Food Authority bans Chinese salt after scientific panel finds it hazardous for health

naveed

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

پنجاب فوڈ اتھارٹی کے سائینٹفک پینل نے چائنیز نمک (اجینوموتو) پر پابندی عائد کردی ہے

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ایکسپریس نیوز کے مطابق پنجاب فوڈ اتھارٹی سائنٹیفک پینل نے صوبے بھر میں چائنیز نمک (اجینوموتو) پر مکمل پابندی عائد کردی ہے۔ سائنٹیفک پینل کا کہنا ہے کہ اجینوموتو میں مونو سوڈیم گلومیٹ پایا جاتا ہے جو سر درد، دل کی دھڑکن کے مسائل اور دماغی و اعصابی بیماریوں کا باعث بنتی ہے۔

سائنٹیفک پینل کا کہنا ہے کہ بلڈ پریشر، ہائپرٹینشن کا سبب بننے والا چائنہ سالٹ حاملہ خواتین کے لئے بھی سخت نقصان دہ ہے لہذٰا ہوٹل، ریستورانوں، فروزن فوڈز اور دیگر تمام مصنوعات میں چائنیز نمک کے استعمال پر مکمل پابندی عائد کی جائے۔دوسری جانب پنجاب فوڈ اتھارٹی کا کہنا ہے کہ صوبے بھر میں چائنیز نمک کے استعمال کے مکمل خاتمے کے لئے 31 مارچ کی حتمی ڈیڈ لائن جاری کردی ہے۔

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Eyeaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I assume MSG (ajinomoto) is generally safe; however it causes headache and other side effects for some people when it is used in excessive amounts ( as is the case for many food chemicals).
Has Punjab Government carried out any scientific study in the province/nation before taking this decision. Who is the decision maker – medical professionals or the Punjab government officials or Shehbaz Nafsiati?
Such decisions must be justified only and only on scientific bases. Political expediency or half-baked social biases ought not to play any role. Is government going to put a ban on Tomato as well as I believe Tomato and many other natural substances contain ample amount of glutamate as well!
However what to talk about Punjab government! It is run by a certified ‘Nafsiati’ fool. For the sake of one vote or to inflate the false egos of Noonies , Shebzaz nafsiati will be happy to even give fatwa for halal and haram and mindless noonie followers will gloat about it.
If MSG is so dangerous as proclaimed, has the Punjab Government/national government initiated and implemented any law/regulation to put a ban on sale, production and import of this substance?
 

lotaa

Minister (2k+ posts)
aap ko thori study kar leni chahiy,glutomate mein ziyada tar haram janwar use hota hy,india aor mlasia ne vegitable se glotumate tiyar ki hy,us se wo taste nhi ata,ajinomoto(glutomate) ka aik khas maqasd hota hy,ye kisi b cheez k flavour ko bahir nikalti hay,or ye gosht ko narm karti hy,juicy bantai hy,ziyada falavour deti hy,pori dunia is bat pr mutfiq ho chuki hy,k ye sehat k liy nuqsan hy,ye rice mein b is liy use hoti hy,k rice alag alag khilay lhilay rahein,,
I assume MSG (ajinomoto) is generally safe; however it causes headache and other side effects for some people when it is used in excessive amounts ( as is the case for many food chemicals).
Has Punjab Government carried out any scientific study in the province/nation before taking this decision. Who is the decision maker – medical professionals or the Punjab government officials or Shehbaz Nafsiati?
Such decisions must be justified only and only on scientific bases. Political expediency or half-baked social biases ought not to play any role. Is government going to put a ban on Tomato as well as I believe Tomato and many other natural substances contain ample amount of glutamate as well!
However what to talk about Punjab government! It is run by a certified ‘Nafsiati’ fool. For the sake of one vote or to inflate the false egos of Noonies , Shebzaz nafsiati will be happy to even give fatwa for halal and haram and mindless noonie followers will gloat about it.
If MSG is so dangerous as proclaimed, has the Punjab Government/national government initiated and implemented any law/regulation to put a ban on sale, production and import of this substance?
 

Eyeaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
aap ko thori study kar leni chahiy,glutomate mein ziyada tar haram janwar use hota hy,india aor mlasia ne vegitable se glotumate tiyar ki hy,us se wo taste nhi ata,ajinomoto(glutomate) ka aik khas maqasd hota hy,ye kisi b cheez k flavour ko bahir nikalti hay,or ye gosht ko narm karti hy,juicy bantai hy,ziyada falavour deti hy,pori dunia is bat pr mutfiq ho chuki hy,k ye sehat k liy nuqsan hy,ye rice mein b is liy use hoti hy,k rice alag alag khilay lhilay rahein,,

Bhai Saheb, don not worry much about my study about this topic. I’m quite aware of this controversy and scientific literature around MSG since it first arose in early seventies and various reports from European and Canadian food administrations authorities. Though I accept my readings had been on very different context and further I haven’t been into this issue for the last 5-7 years. If there is any other study in this respect please let me know.

Here the question is simple that on what scientific basis the government has initiated this ban? Have they carried out any study for short term and long-term effects of MSG on the local populace? When the government official propagates such a report numerating a bunch of hazards without basing it on a certain study it amounts to sensationalizing and dishonesty. Where is that study report, if any?
As a principle such edicts ought to be based on the initiation for a law by clear decisions by a competent meaning scientific/medical body with clear justifications and data. The same goes for the matters related to the religious laws which ought to be discussed and initiated by the religious scholars with clear reasoning. The government officials or the politicians have no right for a direct interference in such matters other than to seek help in devising a reasonable law. Mis-guided politics has no place in such issues.
When I wrote above about halal/haram, I was aware of how the Noonies may choose to frame the issue. So, this has not much to do with the health hazards than the religious sentiments or the personal preferences of taste buds! Please be clear. What are you trying to convey! Some issues are complex by nature and the issue of chemicals is one of them and has been debated on one pretext or the other in the religious circles and fiqa books since the beginning. Please do not attempt to impose religious principle on the basis of news reports and net-sentiment because a religious principle ought to be abide by in all circumstances. Personally, I’m very particular about the consumptions of all artificial chemical substances however the state has no business to interfere and put bans on the basis of my wishes and whims other that those based on a clear and agreed scientific or religious principle.

My question was simple. If MSG is so dangerous for the public consumption and harmful for the pregnant women, why the Punjab politician have not initiated a law to impose a ban on the sale, production and import of this substance in the parliament? Why not? Why the other government have put a blanket ban on it. A European government has once banned it but later lifted it because of the faulty studies.

I’m sorry if I have further added to my ignorance and lack of knowledge and I wouldn’t try to add any more. You rather object the state officials why they are allowing the trade of a haram/hazardous food in the market, if they are convinced about it.
 

HamzaAfzal

MPA (400+ posts)
We are thankful to Punjab food authority that it is saving us from unhealthy and unhygienic food items as it recently bans Chinese salt after scientific panel find it hazardous for health. It is good to see that punjab food authority set an example for other provinces as other provinces should follow the footsteps of punjab food authority as there are number of NGOs in Pakistan working to provide awareness about the fake food items and their damage due to usage of these items by conducting seminars and different activities.
 

mhafeez

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
بہت جلد مارکیٹ میں آرہا ہے۔۔ حمزہ سالٹ۔۔

I assume MSG (ajinomoto) is generally safe; however it causes headache and other side effects for some people when it is used in excessive amounts ( as is the case for many food chemicals).
Has Punjab Government carried out any scientific study in the province/nation before taking this decision. Who is the decision maker – medical professionals or the Punjab government officials or Shehbaz Nafsiati?
Such decisions must be justified only and only on scientific bases. Political expediency or half-baked social biases ought not to play any role. Is government going to put a ban on Tomato as well as I believe Tomato and many other natural substances contain ample amount of glutamate as well!
However what to talk about Punjab government! It is run by a certified ‘Nafsiati’ fool. For the sake of one vote or to inflate the false egos of Noonies , Shebzaz nafsiati will be happy to even give fatwa for halal and haram and mindless noonie followers will gloat about it.
If MSG is so dangerous as proclaimed, has the Punjab Government/national government initiated and implemented any law/regulation to put a ban on sale, production and import of this substance?

ایک خالص انسانی مسئلے کو سیاسی تو آپ لوگ بنا رہے ہیں ، الزام دوسروں پر دھرتے ہیں
 

mhafeez

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Bhai Saheb, don not worry much about my study about this topic. I’m quite aware of this controversy and scientific literature around MSG since it first arose in early seventies and various reports from European and Canadian food administrations authorities. Though I accept my readings had been on very different context and further I haven’t been into this issue for the last 5-7 years. If there is any other study in this respect please let me know.

Here the question is simple that on what scientific basis the government has initiated this ban? Have they carried out any study for short term and long-term effects of MSG on the local populace? When the government official propagates such a report numerating a bunch of hazards without basing it on a certain study it amounts to sensationalizing and dishonesty. Where is that study report, if any?
As a principle such edicts ought to be based on the initiation for a law by clear decisions by a competent meaning scientific/medical body with clear justifications and data. The same goes for the matters related to the religious laws which ought to be discussed and initiated by the religious scholars with clear reasoning. The government officials or the politicians have no right for a direct interference in such matters other than to seek help in devising a reasonable law. Mis-guided politics has no place in such issues.
When I wrote above about halal/haram, I was aware of how the Noonies may choose to frame the issue. So, this has not much to do with the health hazards than the religious sentiments or the personal preferences of taste buds! Please be clear. What are you trying to convey! Some issues are complex by nature and the issue of chemicals is one of them and has been debated on one pretext or the other in the religious circles and fiqa books since the beginning. Please do not attempt to impose religious principle on the basis of news reports and net-sentiment because a religious principle ought to be abide by in all circumstances. Personally, I’m very particular about the consumptions of all artificial chemical substances however the state has no business to interfere and put bans on the basis of my wishes and whims other that those based on a clear and agreed scientific or religious principle.

My question was simple. If MSG is so dangerous for the public consumption and harmful for the pregnant women, why the Punjab politician have not initiated a law to impose a ban on the sale, production and import of this substance in the parliament? Why not? Why the other government have put a blanket ban on it. A European government has once banned it but later lifted it because of the faulty studies.

I’m sorry if I have further added to my ignorance and lack of knowledge and I wouldn’t try to add any more. You rather object the state officials why they are allowing the trade of a haram/hazardous food in the market, if they are convinced about it.

اب پریس ریلیز میں تو ساری ریسرچ نہیں چھاپ سکتے البتہ آپکی بات درست ہے کہ ایسی ریسرچ کو ویب سائٹ پر ضرور ڈالنا چاہیے البتہ فوڈ سیفٹی کے حوالے سے مضر صحت اشیاء کو بین کرنے کا ایک عالمی معیار موجود ہے کہ پہلے وارننگ دی جائے اسکے بعد مکمل پابندی لگا دی جائے ، اگر ایک دم پابندی لگا دی جائے یہ لوگ عدالت چلے جاتے ہیں جہاں انہی قانونی نکات پر یہ لوگ اسٹے حاصل کرلیتے ہیں

9. Scientific panel
.– (1) The Food Authority may establish one or more Scientific Panels, which shall consist of the following–

(a) Director General of the Food Authority (Convener);

(b) a representative, having background of food science or technology, of an organization established for determining standards and quality of food;

(c) a representative, having background of food science or technology, of an organization established for scientific or industrial research on food;

(d) a representative, having background of food science or technology, of the National Institute of Food Science & Technology, University of Agriculture, Faisalabad;

(e) a food technologist or scientist;

(f) a medical practitioner registered with Pakistan Medical and Dental Council; and

(g) three representatives of the food manufacturers in the relevant field.

(2) A Scientific Panel may co-opt any other member from the relevant industry.

(3) The Food Authority shall determine the terms and conditions, including tenure of members of a Scientific Panel other than ex-officio members.

(4) The Food Authority may refer any matter relating to food to the Scientific Panel for recommendation.

(5) The Scientific Panel may, after due deliberations with the relevant industry and consumer representatives, make recommendations to the Food Authority on standards, products, procedures, processes and guidelines in relation to any technical aspect of the food.

(6) If the Food Authority does not agree to the recommendations of the Scientific Panel, it may, with reasons, refer the case back to the Scientific Panel for reconsideration.

(7) The Scientific Panel shall reconsider the reference and forward its reconsidered recommendations and the Food Authority shall act accordingly.
 

kayawish

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
this is a joke if ajinomoto is so bad for health then why its allowed to be sold in German supermarkets ?
 

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