Prices in an FUNCTIONING Islamic Economy: Comparision b/w 2008 Vs 2012

[AsifAmeer]

This table shows the affects of using a well balanced currency in a functioning Economy. There was a reason man used Gold/Silver/Copper as currency for the last 5000 years.


This chart shows that every Pakistani pays 24.43% of Inflation Tax EVERY YEAR!

RUPEE HAD AN AVERAGE DEPRECIATION OF 85%
Dollar HAD AN AVERAGE DEPRECIATION OF 42%
GOLD APPRECIATED BY AN AVERAGE OF 35%

 

[gazoomartian]

This table shows the affects of using a well balanced currency in a functioning Economy. There was a reason man used Gold/Silver/Copper as currency for the last 5000 years.

RUPEE HAD AN AVERAGE DEPRECIATION OF 85%
Dollar HAD AN AVERAGE DEPRECIATION OF 42%
GOLD APPRECIATED BY AN AVERAGE OF 35%

everything went over my head but thanks anyway for posting

 

[AsifAmeer]

Thats completely OK! Ask me..

The point Pakistanis are facing grim economic conditions because their Govts are messing up Pakistan's economy.

• Using the Rupee to do their daily trade, Pakistanis lost 85% of their wealth to the Govt
• If Pakistanis had used DOLLAR for their daily business, they would have lost 42% of their wealth.
• If Pakistanis had used Gold to do their daily business, they would have increased their wealth by 35%

everything went over my head but thanks anyway for posting

 

[Unicorn]

Thats completely OK! Ask me..

The point Pakistanis are facing grim economic conditions because their Govts are messing up Pakistan's economy.

• Using the Rupee to do their daily trade, Pakistanis lost 85% of their wealth to the Govt
• If Pakistanis had used DOLLAR for their daily business, they would have lost 42% of their wealth.
• If Pakistanis had used Gold to do their daily business, they would have increased their wealth by 35%

The questions are:

How they could borrow in gold?

How could they maintain their trade deficit in gold?

How could they demand gold during begging?:lol:

How could they maintain military and equipment if they had to pay in gold?

Thats it for now.

 

[AsifAmeer]

Ok.. I will start with the 1st question and proceed...

FCVK the Govt! Fcvk'em in the EAR!

Hope that answers all the questions!

The questions are:

How they could borrow in gold?

How could they maintain their trade deficit in gold?

How could they demand gold during begging?:lol:

How could they maintain military and equipment if they had to pay in gold?

Thats it for now.

 

[Unicorn]

Ok.. I will start with the 1st question and proceed...

FCVK the Govt! Fcvk'em in the EAR!

Hope that answers all the questions!

[hilar][hilar] this answers everything perfectly [hilar][hilar]

 

[AsifAmeer]

Tumhain bara pyar aa raha hai Govt par?? Heck.. India's already got Zardari.. Keep'em!

When I heard bal thackeray say "Zardari should think before coming to India", I thought to myself "U a$$hole.. stop giving him useful ideas.. Just do whatever u want!"

I think the whole of Pakistani nation was with bal thackeray for a moment... Go India go!! We are with you!!! Make a SATI out of him!! His wife is dead anyway! Send him back to his wife!!

[hilar][hilar] this answers everything perfectly [hilar][hilar]

 

[gazoomartian]

Tumhain bara pyar aa raha hai Govt par?? Heck.. India's already got Zardari.. Keep'em!

When I heard bal thackeray say "Zardari should think before coming to India", I thought to myself "U a$$hole.. stop giving him useful ideas.. Just do whatever u want!"

I think the whole of Pakistani nation was with bal thackeray for a moment... Go India go!! We are with you!!! Make a SATI out of him!! His wife is dead anyway! Send him back to his wife!!

Actually, and honestly, I thought the planes would crash on its way back from India. But Allah very rarely listens to me.

BUT it may still happen. Because may not have liked the trip to the dargah of Hazrat Chishti (ra) by these nap ak people. But Allah will do it at 'his convenience' not mine.

 

[gazoomartian]

Aasif and others,

I think I have the perfect solutions for all our ills. But to understand this picture you must be filling my shoes and see it thru my eyes. Some would consider me a crazy old man, but that's fine.


Now we all know that the govts of Mush and Zardari were installed, except that AAZ was directly installed by the US thru NRO and 47% bogus votes. Suppose my party, United Patriots wins a landslide in this upcoming elections.

I would have enough courage to pass a bill in the parliament declaring these two govts as 'bought out' govt for the reason of harming Pakistan. Therefore all agreements, treaty, constitutional amendments, laws will be under review and if needed will be repealed by 51% vote in the parliament (or as it currently legislated).

We shall declare presence of extra-diplomatic staff of the US/UK/Nato as illegal and undeclared-war combatants. This will give us enough clout to prosecute the foreigners or deport them after declaring them persona non grata. All their buildings in Pakistan that were built for the purpose of subversive activities, for the use by the CIA and other western agencies, would be ceased. The buildings would be turned into commercial enterprise such as hotels, motels, govt offices, sold at auctions or simply bring them down.

All loans acquired by the two 'bought out' govt's would be put under microscope to check if the IMF or any other loans have in fact helped the country in any which way. We would renege on repayment of these loans, and not even interest, do what ever you wanna do.

This will be a historical bold stance, unprecedented and unpracticed anytime or anywhere by any country on any planet.

But this will require a lot of unity, consensus, discipline, and courage. This will be quiet possible because I shall mobilize the masses in favor of this step to cleanse Pakistan of riba ridden loans, loans that have been given to buy the rulers and for their own bank accounts, and to deliberately cause hardship on the nation and disintegration of Pakistan.

This may also put my own life on line because the intelligence agencies of the West will not leave any stone unturned to find a way to bring me down. But that's ok with me. My life is less worth than that of my nation.

 

[Unicorn]

Aasif and others,

I think I have the perfect solutions for all our ills. But to understand this picture you must be filling my shoes and see it thru my eyes. Some would consider me a crazy old man, but that's fine.


Now we all know that the govts of Mush and Zardari were installed, except that AAZ was directly installed by the US thru NRO and 47% bogus votes. Suppose my party, United Patriots wins a landslide in this upcoming elections.

I would have enough courage to pass a bill in the parliament declaring these two govts as 'bought out' govt for the reason of harming Pakistan. Therefore all agreements, treaty, constitutional amendments, laws will be under review and if needed will be repealed by 51% vote in the parliament (or as it currently legislated).

We shall declare presence of extra-diplomatic staff of the US/UK/Nato as illegal and undeclared-war combatants. This will give us enough clout to prosecute the foreigners or deport them after declaring them persona non grata. All their buildings in Pakistan that were built for the purpose of subversive activities, for the use by the CIA and other western agencies, would be ceased. The buildings would be turned into commercial enterprise such as hotels, motels, govt offices, sold at auctions or simply bring them down.

All loans acquired by the two 'bought out' govt's would be put under microscope to check if the IMF or any other loans have in fact helped the country in any which way. We would renege on repayment of these loans, and not even interest, do what ever you wanna do.

This will be a historical bold stance, unprecedented and unpracticed anytime or anywhere by any country on any planet.

But this will require a lot of unity, consensus, discipline, and courage. This will be quiet possible because I shall mobilize the masses in favor of this step to cleanse Pakistan of riba ridden loans, loans that have been given to buy the rulers and for their own bank accounts, and to deliberately cause hardship on the nation and disintegration of Pakistan.

This may also put my own life on line because the intelligence agencies of the West will not leave any stone unturned to find a way to bring me down. But that's ok with me. My life is less worth than that of my nation.

I won't call you a crazy old man. I will call you a frustrated old man[hilar][hilar].

 

[AsifAmeer]

mein utna he khata houn jitna hazam kar sakta houn. I wont even strive govts... govt positions.. there's a certain joy in working for without money and without power.

Gotta correct u on 1 thing. Assuming u live in Canada, thats your nation.. Pakistan is your former nation. The bread you eat, the milk you drank, the meds you (didnt) take, are all from your new host nation. And lets admit it, these foreign nations have been nothing but kinda and generous to us. Lets call them ours.

Pakistan is for Pakistanis to sort out. We stand beside them to fight tyranny in any shape or form. We can only advice them. The freedom is theirs to take.

Aasif and others,

I think I have the perfect solutions for all our ills. But to understand this picture you must be filling my shoes and see it thru my eyes. Some would consider me a crazy old man, but that's fine.


Now we all know that the govts of Mush and Zardari were installed, except that AAZ was directly installed by the US thru NRO and 47% bogus votes. Suppose my party, United Patriots wins a landslide in this upcoming elections.

I would have enough courage to pass a bill in the parliament declaring these two govts as 'bought out' govt for the reason of harming Pakistan. Therefore all agreements, treaty, constitutional amendments, laws will be under review and if needed will be repealed by 51% vote in the parliament (or as it currently legislated).

We shall declare presence of extra-diplomatic staff of the US/UK/Nato as illegal and undeclared-war combatants. This will give us enough clout to prosecute the foreigners or deport them after declaring them persona non grata. All their buildings in Pakistan that were built for the purpose of subversive activities, for the use by the CIA and other western agencies, would be ceased. The buildings would be turned into commercial enterprise such as hotels, motels, govt offices, sold at auctions or simply bring them down.

All loans acquired by the two 'bought out' govt's would be put under microscope to check if the IMF or any other loans have in fact helped the country in any which way. We would renege on repayment of these loans, and not even interest, do what ever you wanna do.

This will be a historical bold stance, unprecedented and unpracticed anytime or anywhere by any country on any planet.

But this will require a lot of unity, consensus, discipline, and courage. This will be quiet possible because I shall mobilize the masses in favor of this step to cleanse Pakistan of riba ridden loans, loans that have been given to buy the rulers and for their own bank accounts, and to deliberately cause hardship on the nation and disintegration of Pakistan.

This may also put my own life on line because the intelligence agencies of the West will not leave any stone unturned to find a way to bring me down. But that's ok with me. My life is less worth than that of my nation.

 

[gazoomartian]

mein utna he khata houn jitna hazam kar sakta houn. I wont even strive govts... govt positions.. there's a certain joy in working for without money and without power.

Gotta correct u on 1 thing. Assuming u live in Canada, thats your nation.. Pakistan is your former nation. The bread you eat, the milk you drank, the meds you (didnt) take, are all from your new host nation. And lets admit it, these foreign nations have been nothing but kinda and generous to us. Lets call them ours.

Pakistan is for Pakistanis to sort out. We stand beside them to fight tyranny in any shape or form. We can only advice them. The freedom is theirs to take.

I disagree but I will let it go at that.

Thanks for agreeing with my idea tho. You agreed because you did not present an opposing view.

 

[AsifAmeer]

I understand why you disagree. Its the age factor. Isnt it? I dont hold that view because of the age factor. But I think I do understand your point of view.

I disagree but I will let it go at that.

Thanks for agreeing with my idea tho. You agreed because you did not present an opposing view.

 

[Vitamin_C]

ITs not long before rupee notes are going to be weighed in kilos in exchange for pieces of bread and cheese =p. I already saw this coming during last eid ul azha, people had to bring suitcases of cash to buy a cow i wonder what they are going to bring this year to buy animals

 

[AsifAmeer]

Their 1st born.

ITs not long before rupee notes are going to be weighed in kilos in exchange for pieces of bread and cheese =p. I already saw this coming during last eid ul azha, people had to bring suitcases of cash to buy a cow i wonder what they are going to bring this year to buy animals

 

[ConcernedPaki]

Thats completely OK! Ask me..

The point Pakistanis are facing grim economic conditions because their Govts are messing up Pakistan's economy.

• Using the Rupee to do their daily trade, Pakistanis lost 85% of their wealth to the Govt
• If Pakistanis had used DOLLAR for their daily business, they would have lost 42% of their wealth.
• If Pakistanis had used Gold to do their daily business, they would have increased their wealth by 35%

Fiscal extremist? Tea partier? And since you are a poor man's Paul Krugman, how do you see the housing market in US for the next few years? :) Pretty much hurtling towards further disaster the way I see it!

 

[AsifAmeer]

Yeah.. I am a tea-partier.. Starting a new company.. Its called the "East India Company".

>> how do you see the housing market in US for the next few years?
I dont wanna see that sector. And let me share why. Everytime interest rates go down, House prices appreciate. Right now the FED rate is at 25 bps (0.25%). It can only go up from here. That means house prices will have to come down, not due to oversupply, but financing cost going up. So till the FED continue to hide all the skeletons in the closet, things will get kicked down the road. There is another dynamic thats taking place, since FED rate is at 25 bps, capital is flowing into commodities and thats directly adding to inflation and margin compression. To get real returns, investors will be forced to dump treasuries just to beat inflation. When that happens, treasuries will tank, their yields will go up and FED will be cornered to raise the interest rates.

So the choice FED has right now is either horrendous or stupefying! But they will somehow manage to make things even worse. These guys are really good at sucking.

Fiscal extremist? Tea partier? And since you are a poor man's Paul Krugman, how do you see the housing market in US for the next few years? :) Pretty much hurtling towards further disaster the way I see it!

 

[gazoomartian]

I understand why you disagree. Its the age factor. Isnt it? I dont hold that view because of the age factor. But I think I do understand your point of view.

No more Age factor

I use Max Factor lmao
[hilar]

 

[gazoomartian]

To Anybody

I need help from you. I need t know where does the River Indus initiate?

Since river always flows downstream, there has to be a starting point.

Please provide map, texts, or links to show the originating point of the river. rect


I have already tried google but there is a forest of information and no telling which one is cor

jazakAllah

 

[Mughal1]

The actual flow of river is from tibet china via jammu and along border of india it falls in to arabian sea. It is a two thousand miles long river.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_River

http://maps.google.co.uk/