Muslims Have Become Like Foam in the Sea

The_Choice

Senator (1k+ posts)

Messenger of Allah said: "The nations are about to call each other and set upon you, just as diners set upon food." It was said: "Will it be because of our small number that day?" He said:

"Rather, on that day you will be many, but you will be like foam, like the foam on the river. And Allah will remove the fear of you from the hearts of your enemies and will throw wahn (weakness) into your hearts." Someone said: "O Messenger of Allah! What is wahn?" He said: "Love of the world and the hatred for death."
Sahih: Related by Abu Dawud (no. 4297), Ibn 'Asakirin in Tarikh Dimashq (2/97/8) and others. It was authenticated by Al-Albani in As-Sahihah (no. 958)


This hadith explains the first form of weakness, which has befallen the 'Ummah in all corners of the world, as being a result of inclination to this world, love of it, and being preoccupied with it, whilst turning away from the Hereafter, being distant from it and hatred of death. Hatred of death is a sign of loving this world, since the one who loves this world, hates death. Since, with death, comes the meeting with Allah - the Most Perfect.
 

Liberal 000

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The Hadith says... Starts with... About to call = this event was destined to happen in near future after the Prophet PBUH

This Hadith can fit on Crusades ... Pope called all the nations of Europe to join!

Politically real fall of the Muslims started after the fall of Grenada... and complete fall happened at the end of first World War!

Presently Muslim nations are rising step by step politically!


Molvies can use this Hadith to create terrorists for suicide bombings but they will ignore all other Hadiths ...saying that Muslims will gain worldwide power only under Messiha... Plz wait for Messiha instead of creating wars in this world!

I do not know why Hadith believers do not strive to teach Muslim world the science described in the Hadiths of Saha Sata and Asool e Arba by their Imams!
 

Raiwind-Destroyer

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
The Hadith says... Starts with... About to call = this event was destined to happen in near future after the Prophet PBUH

This Hadith can fit on Crusades ... Pope called all the nations of Europe to join!

Politically real fall of the Muslims started after the fall of Grenada... and complete fall happened at the end of first World War!

Presently Muslim nations are rising step by step politically!


Molvies can use this Hadith to create terrorists for suicide bombings but they will ignore all other Hadiths ...saying that Muslims will gain worldwide power only under Messiha... Plz wait for Messiha instead of creating wars in this world!

I do not know why Hadith believers do not strive to teach Muslim world the science described in the Hadiths of Saha Sata and Asool e Arba by their Imams!

your typical interpretation shows your jewish terrorist mindset of attacking Muslims for no reson
 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Muslims have an allergy to science. If you read the Hadiths they are full of superstition, Muhammad was a very superstitious man and you can see it in his sayings and in his biography. Even though certains were already discovered by Greeks thousands of years ago there is no mention of it in Islamic teachings.

The scientific contribution of Muslims is Minimum, only one science nobel proze in the world and Movlus desicrated his grave. More works are translated into Spanish every year than has been translated into Arabic in the last 150 years. I dont understand why people are so surprises that Islamic world is the arsehole of the world society today.

The Hadith says... Starts with... About to call = this event was destined to happen in near future after the Prophet PBUH

This Hadith can fit on Crusades ... Pope called all the nations of Europe to join!

Politically real fall of the Muslims started after the fall of Grenada... and complete fall happened at the end of first World War!

Presently Muslim nations are rising step by step politically!


Molvies can use this Hadith to create terrorists for suicide bombings but they will ignore all other Hadiths ...saying that Muslims will gain worldwide power only under Messiha... Plz wait for Messiha instead of creating wars in this world!

I do not know why Hadith believers do not strive to teach Muslim world the science described in the Hadiths of Saha Sata and Asool e Arba by their Imams!
 

The_Choice

Senator (1k+ posts)
The Hadith says... Starts with... About to call = this event was destined to happen in near future after the Prophet PBUH

This Hadith can fit on Crusades ... Pope called all the nations of Europe to join!

Politically real fall of the Muslims started after the fall of Grenada... and complete fall happened at the end of first World War!

Presently Muslim nations are rising step by step politically!


Molvies can use this Hadith to create terrorists for suicide bombings but they will ignore all other Hadiths ...saying that Muslims will gain worldwide power only under Messiha... Plz wait for Messiha instead of creating wars in this world!

I do not know why Hadith believers do not strive to teach Muslim world the science described in the Hadiths of Saha Sata and Asool e Arba by their Imams!
 

The_Choice

Senator (1k+ posts)
Muslims have an allergy to science. If you read the Hadiths they are full of superstition, Muhammad was a very superstitious man and you can see it in his sayings and in his biography. Even though certains were already discovered by Greeks thousands of years ago there is no mention of it in Islamic teachings.

The scientific contribution of Muslims is Minimum, only one science nobel proze in the world and Movlus desicrated his grave. More works are translated into Spanish every year than has been translated into Arabic in the last 150 years. I dont understand why people are so surprises that Islamic world is the arsehole of the world society today.
 

Liberal 000

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

Bro you are being fooled by these Molvies

For 10 centuries Muslims ruled India but they were not following Quran ... Some of them were just looters ,some created their own religion and others were always indulged in TaosRubab!

Just a question! Why God did not help Hazarat Uthman from uprisers ? Did Hazart Uthman forsake Quran?
 

The_Choice

Senator (1k+ posts)
Bro you are being fooled by these Molvies

For 10 centuries Muslims ruled India but they were not following Quran ... Some of them were just looters ,some created their own religion and others were always indulged in TaosRubab!

Just a question! Why God did not help Hazarat Uthman from uprisers ? Did Hazart Uthman forsake Quran?
 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Your talking about Hasrat Uthman?

Just read a little more and what happened with Muhammad's bloodlines... His entire bloodline was exterminated in the most brutal and hidious ways.

Many were raped, tortured, starved in the desert, quartered and crucified for generations. The last ones were imprisoned and prevented from creating offsprings. While Allah was watching with his arms folded with complete indifference.

If Allah is all powerfull why didnt he help Muhammad's decendents from extermination?

If he couldnt help them then he is not omnipotent.

If he did not want to help them then he is not omnibenevelent.

Or maybe he is neither of the two but a creation of the human mind amd had no part to play in any of the events. As you obviously dont need God to conquer territory, the Americans and British have done just fine doing that without the help of Angels.

Bro you are being fooled by these Molvies

For 10 centuries Muslims ruled India but they were not following Quran ... Some of them were just looters ,some created their own religion and others were always indulged in TaosRubab!

Just a question! Why God did not help Hazarat Uthman from uprisers ? Did Hazart Uthman forsake Quran?
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Muslims have an allergy to science. If you read the Hadiths they are full of superstition, Muhammad was a very superstitious man and you can see it in his sayings and in his biography. Even though certains were already discovered by Greeks thousands of years ago there is no mention of it in Islamic teachings.

The scientific contribution of Muslims is Minimum, only one science nobel proze in the world and Movlus desicrated his grave. More works are translated into Spanish every year than has been translated into Arabic in the last 150 years. I dont understand why people are so surprises that Islamic world is the arsehole of the world society today.
Seems like you have an axe to grind with Islam.
 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What I said in that statement is true, many hadiths are basically repeating ancient egyptian, jewish and Arab myths like sun setting in a muddy spring, the cave sleepers and many other unscientific stories beijg told as literally true.

As for having to grind an axe woth Islam. Take all the Muslim countries on one hand and just take a few western countries on the other, the disparity in human rights, human values is astronomical. I think it merits an explanation and a very good evaluation of why Islamic teachings are dragging these countries into the ground.

Why is it that only the most secular of the Muslim countries are prosperous and the most religious ines the worst in terms of human rights and society?

Seems like you have an axe to grind with Islam.
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
What I said in that statement is true, many hadiths are basically repeating ancient egyptian, jewish and Arab myths like sun setting in a muddy spring, the cave sleepers and many other unscientific stories beijg told as literally true.

As for having to grind an axe woth Islam. Take all the Muslim countries on one hand and just take a few western countries on the other, the disparity in human rights, human values is astronomical. I think it merits an explanation and a very good evaluation of why Islamic teachings are dragging these countries into the ground.

Why is it that only the most secular of the Muslim countries are prosperous and the most religious ines the worst in terms of human rights and society?
Spoken like a true Atheist/Agnostic
 

The_Choice

Senator (1k+ posts)
What I said in that statement is true, many hadiths are basically repeating ancient egyptian, jewish and Arab myths like sun setting in a muddy spring, the cave sleepers and many other unscientific stories beijg told as literally true.

As for having to grind an axe woth Islam. Take all the Muslim countries on one hand and just take a few western countries on the other, the disparity in human rights, human values is astronomical. I think it merits an explanation and a very good evaluation of why Islamic teachings are dragging these countries into the ground.

Why is it that only the most secular of the Muslim countries are prosperous and the most religious ines the worst in terms of human rights and society?

Who is responsible for this?

 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Considering that empirical studies show that IQ of atheists tend to be significantly higher than religious people I will take what you said as a compliment as in spoken like a true intelligent person :)

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Spoken like a true Atheist/Agnostic
 
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Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
This reminds me of the past Pakistani parliaments. When PMLN accused PPPP of corruption they would reply that you did this too. You have the same answer, instead of directly responding to what I have said you gave me example of other people who are doing bad things as well... I don't care about those people, we can discuss them on a different thread, the topic of this thread is Islam, lets stick to the topic.



 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Considering that empirical studies show that IQ of atheists tend to be significantly higher than religious people I will take what you said as a compliment as in spoken like a true intelligent person :)

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iqvsreligion.gif
Whatever rocks your boat mate.
 

A1i

New Member
(52:29) So exhort (them, O Prophet), for by your Lord’s Grace, you are neither a soothsayer nor a madman.

7:184) Have they not ever given it a thought? Their fellow man1 is not insane. He is only sent with a clear warning.

15:6) And they say, “O you upon whom the message has been sent down, indeed you are mad.

23:70) Or ˹because˺ they say, “He is insane?” In fact, he has come to them with the truth, but most of them are resentful of the truth

34:46) Your fellow man is not insane. He is only a warner to you before ˹the coming of˺ a severe punishment.”

37:36) and argued, “Should we really abandon our gods for a mad poet?”

44:14) then they turned away from him, saying, “A madman, taught by others!”?

50:51-54) So ˹proclaim, O Prophet˺: “Flee to Allah! I am truly sent by Him with a clear warning to you.
And do not set up another god with Allah. I am truly sent by Him with a clear warning to you.”
Similarly, no messenger came to those before them without being told: “A magician or a madman!”
Have they passed this ˹cliché˺ down to one another? In fact, they have ˹all˺ been a transgressing people.
So ˹now˺ turn away from them ˹O Prophet˺, for you will not be blamed.
 

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