Muslim should not pledge for allegiance to secular countries??? Muslim should move away from the god

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MileStone

MPA (400+ posts)
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]Surah Kahf - translation and commentary by Imran N. Hosein[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]
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[/FONT]Simple translation:
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]“We shall truly relate to you their story: Behold, they were young men who had attained to faith in their Lord-[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]God: and We deepened their consciousness of the right way – (18:13)[/FONT]
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[/FONT]Explanatory translation:


(And now)
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]We shall truly relate to you their story: Behold, they were young men who had attained to faith in[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]their Lord-God: and [/FONT]

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(in consequence of the faith which they demonstrated in this matter, and which We now narrate
to you),

[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]We deepened their consciousness of the right way –[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]
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[/FONT]Commentary:
There is an amazing message of comfort and hope in these two verses (above and below). As a believer separates
himself from the godlessness and decadence of today’s godless Gog and Magog world-order, as he resists their war on
Islam that is now raging around the world and, where possible, challenges the oppressor, every step that he takes on
that road of defense and preservation of Truth results in a Divine response that increases his faith as well as
strengthens his capacity to resist the enemy. When such a believer is unjustly attacked, marginalized, demonized,
denied the freedom to preach Islam or persecuted, then the converse takes effect, i.e., that Allah Most High would
increase the misguidance of those who attack him. The


[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]Qur’[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]ā[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]n [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]describes the fate which awaits such wicked people
when it says (in connection with the prohibition of

[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]Rib[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]ā[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]) that: they will eventually behave as though they were driven to
madness because of Satan’s touch

. (Qur’ān, al-Baqarah, 2:184)
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[/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]“and We endowed their hearts with strength, so that they stood up and proclaimed


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: [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]“Our Lord-God is the[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]Lord-God of the heavens and the earth. Never shall we invoke any deity other than Him: if we ever did so, we[/FONT]
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]would indeed have uttered an enormous (falsehood)!” (18:14)[/FONT]
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[/FONT]Explanatory translation:
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]and We endowed their hearts with strength, so that they stood up and


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(defiantly and courageously proclaimed to
the godless world):

[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]“Our Lord-God is the Lord-God of the heavens and the earth. Never shall we invoke any[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]deity other than Him: [/FONT]

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(and hence, never shall we declare our submission to any claimant to sovereignty, supreme
authority, supreme law etc. other than Allah Most High)

[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]if we did so, we would indeed have uttered an enormous[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]
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[/FONT](falsehood)


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[/FONT]Commentary:
As a believer in Allah Most High resists the godlessness of the modern world of


[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]D[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]ā[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]jjal [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]and of Gog and Magog he
must ensure that he resists its

[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]Shirk [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]in particular. That [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]Shirk [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]is today universally present, yet so many have difficulty in
recognizing it. Very few can today recognize the

[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]Shirk [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]of the modern State, for example, when it claims sovereignty
for itself, and when it declares that its authority and law are supreme. The blessed Prophet

[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic](sallalahu ‘alaihi wa sallam) [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]had
warned that

[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]D[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]ā[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]jjal’s [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]attack of [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]Shirk [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]would be as difficult to recognize as it would be to recognize “a black ant on a black
rock on a dark night”

.
The young men in

[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]S[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]ū[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]rah al-Kahf [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]recognized that any embrace of [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]Shirk [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]would result in the utter destruction of faith.
And they consequently resisted that

[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]Shirk [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]to the extent of abandoning their place of residence. [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]S[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]ū[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]rah al-Kahf [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]knocks
at the door of our heart in this age of universal

[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]Shirk [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]to urge us all, especially the young, to follow the example set by
those young men.
A Muslim cannot pledge allegiance to the modern secular State and to its constitution and yet continuously make the
hollow declaration (in prayer for example) of

[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]“Allahu Akbar” [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT](i.e., Allah is Supreme; His authority is supreme; and
His law is the supreme law). The modern secular State was created in Europe by godless modern western civilization
through a Jewish-Christian alliance and it blasphemously arrogated unto itself sovereignty, supreme authority and
supreme law. The next verse of

[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]S[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]ū[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]rah al-Kahf [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]describes such conduct as “the wickedest of all”. (See also the chapter
on the

[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]Shirk [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]of the modern secular State in Part Two of my book [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]‘Jerusalem in the Qur’[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]ā[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]n’.)[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]
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[/FONT]Simple translation:
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]“These, our people, recognize gods other than Him (i.e., Allah Most High): why do they not defend this with[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]some convincing rational explanation? Truly the wickedest of conduct is to blaspheme against Allah with such[/FONT]
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]falsehood.” (18:15)[/FONT]
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[/FONT]Explanatory translation:
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]"These, our people, recognize gods


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(i.e., those whom they recognize as sovereign, etc.) [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]other than Him: why do[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]they not defend [/FONT]

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(their blasphemous belief) [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]with some convincing rational explanation? Truly the wickedest of[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]conduct is to blaspheme against Allah [/FONT]

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(Most High) [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]with such falsehood.”[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]
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[/FONT]This is precisely what the modern godless world has done in creating, for example, the modern secular State with its
arrogant and blasphemous constitutional claim to sovereignty, supreme authority, supreme law, freedom to legalize
that which Allah Most High had prohibited, etc. Allah prohibited gambling, for example, yet the modern secular State
has not only permitted it but the State itself is engaged in State-sponsored lottery. This is the greatest act of
wickedness


[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic](Dhulm) [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]that anyone could ever commit.
The heart of every Muslim youth, male as well as female, should shiver with excitement and ecstasy as they read these
verses of

[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]S[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]ū[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]rah al-Kahf[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]. For here is Allah Most High Himself delivering a wake-up call to them that they should be
inspired by the youths of this story who had faith in Him, and who defiantly resisted every effort of the godless world
to break their faith. In consequence He blessed them by increasing their faith for them.
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[/FONT]Simple translation:
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]“Hence, now that you have turned away from them, and from all that they worship instead of Allah


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, [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]take[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]refuge in that cave: your Lord-God will shower His mercy on you and take care of your affair for you with[/FONT]
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]comfort and ease!” (18:16)[/FONT]
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[/FONT]Explanatory translation:
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]“Hence, now that you


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(my fellow Muslims) [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]have turned away [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT](withdrawn and disconnected) [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]from them, and from[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]all that they worship instead of Allah [/FONT]

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(i.e., from their mainstream godlessness), [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]take refuge in that cave [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT](the
modern day equivalent being the remotely located Muslim Village)

[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]: your Lord-God will shower His mercy on you[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]and dispose of your affair [/FONT]

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(i.e., take care of all your difficulties) [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]for you [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT](in such wise as would give you) [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]comfort[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]and ease!”[/FONT]
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[/FONT]Commentary:
Hence the implication is that the ‘one in a thousand’ who, according to the


[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]Had[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]ī[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]th al-Qudsi [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT](quoted elsewhere in the
text of the book), would survive the storm of Gog and Magog with faith intact, and would enter into heaven, would be
the one who disconnects from the godless melting pot. The verse also delivers a ringing assurance of Divine assistance
and protection for those who separate themselves from the godless world in an effort to preserve their faith! The verse
also anticipates that when the believers attempt a withdrawal from the godless world, those who would lead the way of

that withdrawal and would go on to establish remotely located ‘Muslim Villages’ would always be the Muslim youth.

 

MileStone

MPA (400+ posts)
According to this muslims should not try to get the citizenships of these secular countries, because they have to pledge their allegiance and accept their constitution and laws are supreme even though if they differ from the teaching of Quran.

Muslims should move away from this godless world and go to remote villages where they would be able to upbring their families according to Quran and Sunnah, because it is getting more and more difficult to live in these western glittery godless countries and still be able to follow the right path. This is what the young men did when they confined themselevs in cave of Kahf.

Please discuss and may Allah help us understand this correctly.
 
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zubair.maalick

MPA (400+ posts)
According to this muslims should not try to get the citizenships of these secular countries, because they have to pledge their allegiance and accept their constitution and laws are supreme even though if they differ from the teaching of Quran.

Muslims should move away from this godless world and go to remote villages where they would be able to upbring their families according to Quran and Sunnah, because it is getting more and more difficult to live in these western glittery godless countries and still be able to follow the right path. This is what the young men did when they confined themselevs in cave of Kahf.

Please discuss and may Allah help us understand this correctly.

Yes u r right ... Their are some Ahadees also regarding this .. which indicates that during such time one should hide himself in some remote place ..
I do not remember the exact reference of Hadith so, not copying it .. but I read it in following book of Ibn e Kaseer:

http://kitaabun.com/shopping3/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=23&products_id=198

The significance of Surat Kahf in this time indicates same ... that is why Rasul Allah recommend us to recite (every Friday) and learn Surat Kahf (atleast first 10 ayat).
 

MileStone

MPA (400+ posts)
Adding more relevant verses pertaining to the topic

Simple translation:​
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“And you would have thought that they were awake, whereas they lay asleep. And We caused them to turn
over repeatedly, now to the right, now to the left; and their dog​
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[/FONT](lay) [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]on the threshold, its forepaws
outstretched. Had you come upon them
[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT](unprepared), [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]you would surely have turned away from them in flight,
and would surely have been filled with terror of them.” (18:18)

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Commentary:​
It should be clear that the movement of the young men’s bodies when they rolled from left to right, and then right to
left, was in response to attraction to sunlight, - a scientific principle known as phototropism. Hence​
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here directing attention of the believers to the study of the nature and constitution of the material universe, - a study
otherwise known as the scientific quest.
Elsewhere we find evidence that
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]Dajj[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]ā[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]l [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]would be the master-mind of a scientific and technological revolution which
he would exploit to his advantage. But the
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]S[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]ū[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]rah [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]also directs special attention to the strategic importance of harnessing
solar energy and, therefore, all other natural sources of energy such as wind and waves of the sea, during the age of

[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]
Dajj
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[/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]ā[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]l.
[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]Only thus would they escape from the clutches of those who first impoverish a people through [FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]Rib[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]ā[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT], then trap
them into dependency on the electricity grid and imported oil for energy, then attack their currency to increase the
price of energy to such an extent that people become helpless to resist, and then finally offer them an escape from this
misery, or, better, a ride on the gravy train, in exchange for their entering into the embrace of those who rule the world
on behalf of the Euro-Jewish State of Israel. Very few would resist the temptation of escaping from poverty and
embracing the good life through acceptance of, and submission to, Israel’s rule over the world. This book is written
with the hope that it may inspire coming generations of Muslims to resist all those attacks of
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]Dajj[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]ā[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]l [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]and to make every
sacrifice in order to preserve faith.
If and when Muslims wake up to the imperative of disconnecting from the godless embrace of the modern secular
world and of seeking to preserve their faith through the establishment of remotely located Muslim Villages they must
remember to make every effort to achieve energy independence through harnessing solar energy (for example). They
must also ensure for themselves an independent supply of water.
It is also important for us to note very carefully that the young men paid careful attention to the matter of security.
Their method of exercising caution was to take a dog with them. And so
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]S[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]ū[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Italic]rah al-Kahf [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]directs attention to the

importance of security and, in so doing, gives prominence to the watch-dog.
 

usm100

Minister (2k+ posts)
According to this muslims should not try to get the citizenships of these secular countries, because they have to pledge their allegiance and accept their constitution and laws are supreme even though if they differ from the teaching of Quran.

Muslims should move away from this godless world and go to remote villages where they would be able to upbring their families according to Quran and Sunnah, because it is getting more and more difficult to live in these western glittery godless countries and still be able to follow the right path. This is what the young men did when they confined themselevs in cave of Kahf.

Please discuss and may Allah help us understand this correctly.

Should i laugh or should i cry? i am unable to understand . Do you mean to say all the muslims ( 1.5 billion ) to go to villages. ( are you sure). to cut off from rest of the world ( i think our religion is the best in world and it teaches us how to live with others not to seperate us). And we should not go to any non muslim countries ( which muslim country we should live, Shia, sunni barailvi deo bandi taliban style... which one you suggest ? ) We should live in so called muslim countries where there is no law. The only law is the law of the might. You cannot get justice and you will be treated like animal if you are poor.( this is what happens in most of 'muslim'countries )
And we should stop getting scientific knowledge and close our minds ( i think islam wants us to get knowledge as much as we can ).
I can keep writing but i think one should get the idea. Here is a simple solution to the issues we have. Get our lazy assess out and make ourself better muslims and better humans. Let our leaders be accountable and no more dictatorships. We muslims have everything we need. It just needs direction. So dont blame on any one and get ourself better thats the only way out no other way will ever work.
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Unfortunately land of God (Allah) do no not exist in present world, more or less each and every country is godless.
 

MileStone

MPA (400+ posts)
Should i laugh or should i cry? i am unable to understand . Do you mean to say all the muslims ( 1.5 billion ) to go to villages. ( are you sure). to cut off from rest of the world ( i think our religion is the best in world and it teaches us how to live with others not to seperate us). And we should not go to any non muslim countries ( which muslim country we should live, Shia, sunni barailvi deo bandi taliban style... which one you suggest ? ) We should live in so called muslim countries where there is no law. The only law is the law of the might. You cannot get justice and you will be treated like animal if you are poor.( this is what happens in most of 'muslim'countries )
And we should stop getting scientific knowledge and close our minds ( i think islam wants us to get knowledge as much as we can ).
I can keep writing but i think one should get the idea. Here is a simple solution to the issues we have. Get our lazy assess out and make ourself better muslims and better humans. Let our leaders be accountable and no more dictatorships. We muslims have everything we need. It just needs direction. So dont blame on any one and get ourself better thats the only way out no other way will ever work.

Please read my post again carefully.
I am not saying any of the above. I have just posted the verses of quran along with the commentary and looking to get feed back from diferent muslims/Pakistanis across the world who visit this website.
I also live in a western country and this is very astonishing to me as well. I am just trying to find the truth as I believe, Allah will certainly not ask us to do something in Quran that will put the Ummah in jeopardy.
 

dukelondon

Senator (1k+ posts)
Should we pledge allegiance to the Shaytaani country Saudi Arabia (infact Hijaz renamed after their tyrant rulers' family name) ? The fact of the matter is that NO country should pledge allegiance to any other country. Every country should be independent in making its own decisions in the best interest of its people.
Also, the whole concept of pledging allegiance to a human being is a flawed one. The ONLY person a human being should pledge allegiance too is a Prophet of Allah(SWT). You can have spiritual connection to a human being like an Imam who is your guide in matters of Islamic jurisprudence. But politics should be kept separate from religion.
 

Saboo

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
MileStone
I don't think this is the proper forum to discuss
an issue like this.
You waisted your time.
 

MileStone

MPA (400+ posts)
Unfortunately land of God (Allah) do no not exist in present world, more or less each and every country is godless.

I think the only land of God in todays world is Khorasan (Modern Afghanistan, and some parts of Pakistan, Iran and Central asian countries), and thats why they are under attack.

Rest of the godless world only sees with one eye (external eye - just like Dajjal) and they are blinded by their other eye (internal or spritual eye i-e heart).
 
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