Is he right ?

[OneManArmy]

Your comments please. I am trying to understand him .​

 

[mughals]

All these things are known. It would be good to talk about other types of interests like discount/coupon in parts of a govertment's investment. they have to mention how usury works/is if money is provided to a sovereign entity like govt treasuries and bonds. There is no person involved who may be impacted as a result

 

[OneManArmy]

All these things are known. It would be good to talk about other types of interests like discount/coupon in parts of a govertment's investment. they have to mention how usury works/is if money is provided to a sovereign entity like govt treasuries and bonds. There is no person involved who may be impacted as a result

I had a wrong video. I changed it to reflect the correct one . In this video he is talking about giving Riba is not against the religion . Only taking Riba is Haram. Any comments ?

 

[Aliimran1]

Yeh Umara ki problem hai —— Ghreeb tu DIN ko kamata Hai aur Raat ko khata Hai —— Ghamdi sahib Umara kay MAZHABI RAHNUMA hein ​

 

[OneManArmy]

Yeh Umara ki problem hai —— Ghreeb tu DIN ko kamata Hai aur Raat ko khata Hai —— Ghamdi sahib Umara kay MAZHABI RAHNUMA hein ​

I don't think so. The poor are the only one who give Riba. The rich ones are taking it.

 

[Aliimran1]

I don't think so. The poor are the only one who give Riba. The rich ones are taking it.

Woh becharay kahan sey dey saktay Hein —— Aaj kal tu Roti Kay lalay paray hein —— Koi agar overseas Bhai madad na karay tu Guzara mushkal hai​

 

[Storm]

I have a counterargument if you and I are going to keep on giving interest than then we are actually supporting the interest business and the people who take interest will flourish this is why the biggest skyscrapers belong to banks even in Pakistan the tallest building belongs to the bank and your beloved ulema climb the building to see the moon to make or break fast

don't you think we are supporting the enemies of Allah and His messenger by doing business with them??

 

[mughals]

I had a wrong video. I changed it to reflect the correct one . In this video he is talking about giving Riba is not against the religion . Only taking Riba is Haram. Any comments ?

For me giving and taking are directly proportional to each other

 

[mughals]

I have a counterargument if you and I are going to keep on giving interest than then we are actually supporting the interest business and the people who take interest will flourish this is why the biggest skyscrapers belong to banks even in Pakistan the tallest building belongs to the bank and your beloved ulema climb the building to see the moon to make or break fast

don't you think we are supporting the enemies of Allah and His messenger by doing business with them??

Riba could bring hardships to the poor and needy. But what if the party giving riba is not a person

 

[OneManArmy]

I have a counterargument if you and I are going to keep on giving interest than then we are actually supporting the interest business and the people who take interest will flourish this is why the biggest skyscrapers belong to banks even in Pakistan the tallest building belongs to the bank and your beloved ulema climb the building to see the moon to make or break fast

don't you think we are supporting the enemies of Allah and His messenger by doing business with them??

But consider if a person is in dire need of money and the person holding the money could only provide him the money on Riba. Then what do you think the person in need should do/ will do ?
If he under the conditions forced to give Riba to utilize the money for his purpose, then there won't be any sin on him.

 

[Storm]

Riba could bring hardships to the poor and needy. But what if the party giving riba is not a person

not a person then who?

 

[mughals]

not a person then who?

to a sovereign entity for example

 

[Storm]

But consider if a person is in dire need of money and the person holding the money could only provide him the money on Riba. Then what do you think the person in need should do/ will do ?
If he under the conditions forced to give Riba to utilize the money for his purpose, then there won't be any sin on him.

(May ALLAH correct me and forgive me if I make a mistake)
i am a small person and not an expert to say but in my humble opinion what I know so far ,
in case of extreme circumstances, even haram becomes halal like anyone is hungry for days they can eat even pork if nothing else is available

obviously, if this is the only option left to survive then I believe its ok but if you have a car and it is enough but you decide to go for a bigger car or house or anything else and on riba then in my opinion that is not justified

what we try to justify based on Ghamdis point of view is we can GIVE riba and do whatever we can

 

[OneManArmy]

to a sovereign entity for example

Let suppose someone borrowed the money on higher rates to invest. Then makes the profit on the investment and pays back the Riba on borrowed money . Would that constitue Haram ? Consider he only giving Riba and not taking it .

 

[Storm]

For me giving and taking are directly proportional to each other

that make sense to me

 

[Storm]

to a sovereign entity for example

I personally feel we should stay away from Riba as much as possible unless extremely needed

 

[mughals]

Let suppose someone borrowed the money on higher rates to invest. Then makes the profit on the investment and pays back the Riba on borrowed money . Would that constitue Haram ? Consider he only giving Riba and not taking it .

that would be called betting and speculation

 

[OneManArmy]

(May ALLAH correct me and forgive me if I make a mistake)
i am a small person and not an expert to say but in my humble opinion what I know so far ,
in case of extreme circumstances, even haram becomes halal like anyone is hungry for days they can eat even pork if nothing else is available

obviously, if this is the only option left to survive then I believe its ok but if you have a car and it is enough but you decide to go for a bigger car or house or anything else and on riba then in my opinion that is not justified

what we try to justify based on Ghamdis point of view is we can GIVE riba and do whatever we can

You seem to be compartmentalizing giving Riba .. Giving Riba could be either Halal or Haram . We are talking about normal circumstances not exception based concepts.

 

[mughals]

I personally feel we should stay away from Riba as much as possible unless extremely needed

correct, but the value of the fiat money we use decreases with time

 

[OneManArmy]

that would be called betting and speculation

How ? An investment could be of any kind . In business ,in Trading , In commercial or in renting.