Exclusive speeches of Dr Qadeer khan and Nawaz Sharif on May 28, 1998
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No Doubt a great Job .
If NS could show Boldness n refuse to come out of Jail on Platelet Drama
He would be considered a great Leader till now
But after very low drama of Platelet , his party people feel shy to defend him. Mariam also feel shy.
Shahbaz Sharif says
“ I am not responsible for Ali Imran , Hamza and Salman Corruption , they were doing corruption in CM house so who will responsible Pervez Musharraf?
If NS could show Boldness n refuse to come out of Jail on Platelet Drama
He would be considered a great Leader till now
But after very low drama of Platelet , his party people feel shy to defend him. Mariam also feel shy.
Shahbaz Sharif says
“ I am not responsible for Ali Imran , Hamza and Salman Corruption , they were doing corruption in CM house so who will responsible Pervez Musharraf?
pinionated
Minister (2k+ posts)
BS. Nawazoo is chicken shit. He was forced to do the test by the Army (numerous accounts of that). He was afraid of reaction from US and UK. He is not of a fearless leader but an accomplice.
Zaidi Qasim
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
NS is no longer healthy enough to continue to spend time in prison just to show that he has mettle for a leader. If you can remember his speeches before the election , he was hardly able to stand few minutes on the podium and his voice was quite fragile and lethargic. And this is turned out to be his greatest fear. several cardiac bypass ,Sugar ,high BP and other health issues . Bongi is not really afraid of NS 's return but in Maryum , he is definitely see a real threat . If anyone give Dr. Qadeer a deserving credit and respect , it was NS .
zaidi Bhai Health is some thing everyone has to bow down with that. Yes for that I do have all the prayers and my best wishes for him.
I will be quite low if I do make a joke for health issues.
I have only one regret what He should have explain his personal wealth ,accounts , ledgers so he may remembered well like we all blame Yahya Khan but he never replied to the allegations so we never knew it was Yahya or someone else played actual games.
Read the story of 'brave' nawaj lohar before the nuclear test:
Here is what Asst Sec of state Strobe Talbott at that time has to say about what happened in his book Inside Clinton's secret chamber :
He writes: "Clinton telephoned Nawaz Sharif the Pakistan prime minister, to whet his appetite for the planes, huge amounts of financial aid and a prize certain to appeal to Sharif -- an invitation from him to make an official visit to Washington. Sharif was not swayed. 'You can almost hear the guy wringing his hands and sweating,'
Clinton said after hanging up".
Having failed to evince any reply from Nawaz Sharif, Talbott was directed by the president to visit Pakistan and make the case to Nawaz Sharif personally. But an invitation for his visit could only be obtained through the good offices of General Jahangir Karamat, then Pakistan's army chief, which according to Talbott proved that "the civilian leaders were in a state of confusion perhaps discord and the
military called the shots in Pakistan."
Then Talbott met prime minister Nawaz Sharif. He writes: "What we got from Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif was a Hamlet act, convincing in its own way -- that is I think he was genuinely feeling torn -- but rather pathetic... On this occasion he seemed nearly paralyzed with exhaustion, anguish and fear. He was literally just as Clinton had sensed during their phone call --wringing his hands. He had yet to make
up his mind but he said, 'I am an elected official and I can not ignore popular sentiment.'"
When Talbott revealed to Sharif the Clinton plan of 'dramatizing' the world's gratitude to him during the latter's visit to USA if he just refrained from testing, Nawaz Sharif asked, "Will Clinton promise to skip India on his trip and come only to Pakistan?" There was no way Talbott could promise that but he told Sharif that Clinton would
recalibrate the length and character of the stops in Delhi and Islamabad. He writes, "Sharif looked more miserable than ever." Kashmir came up repeatedly during the meeting. Nawaz Sharif told Talbott that Kashmir and not nuclear issue was at the core of the tension between India and Pakistan.
Talbott did not enjoy his dealings with Shamshad and goes on to write: "Towards the end of the meeting Sharif asked every one but me to wait outside. Shamshad seemed miffed. He glanced nervously over his shoulder as he left." Sharif told Talbott in privacy that if he did as they wanted the next time "you came to Islamabad you would find yourself not dealing with a clean-shaven moderate but an Islamic
fundamentalist 'with a long beard.'"
Here is what Asst Sec of state Strobe Talbott at that time has to say about what happened in his book Inside Clinton's secret chamber :
He writes: "Clinton telephoned Nawaz Sharif the Pakistan prime minister, to whet his appetite for the planes, huge amounts of financial aid and a prize certain to appeal to Sharif -- an invitation from him to make an official visit to Washington. Sharif was not swayed. 'You can almost hear the guy wringing his hands and sweating,'
Clinton said after hanging up".
Having failed to evince any reply from Nawaz Sharif, Talbott was directed by the president to visit Pakistan and make the case to Nawaz Sharif personally. But an invitation for his visit could only be obtained through the good offices of General Jahangir Karamat, then Pakistan's army chief, which according to Talbott proved that "the civilian leaders were in a state of confusion perhaps discord and the
military called the shots in Pakistan."
Then Talbott met prime minister Nawaz Sharif. He writes: "What we got from Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif was a Hamlet act, convincing in its own way -- that is I think he was genuinely feeling torn -- but rather pathetic... On this occasion he seemed nearly paralyzed with exhaustion, anguish and fear. He was literally just as Clinton had sensed during their phone call --wringing his hands. He had yet to make
up his mind but he said, 'I am an elected official and I can not ignore popular sentiment.'"
When Talbott revealed to Sharif the Clinton plan of 'dramatizing' the world's gratitude to him during the latter's visit to USA if he just refrained from testing, Nawaz Sharif asked, "Will Clinton promise to skip India on his trip and come only to Pakistan?" There was no way Talbott could promise that but he told Sharif that Clinton would
recalibrate the length and character of the stops in Delhi and Islamabad. He writes, "Sharif looked more miserable than ever." Kashmir came up repeatedly during the meeting. Nawaz Sharif told Talbott that Kashmir and not nuclear issue was at the core of the tension between India and Pakistan.
Talbott did not enjoy his dealings with Shamshad and goes on to write: "Towards the end of the meeting Sharif asked every one but me to wait outside. Shamshad seemed miffed. He glanced nervously over his shoulder as he left." Sharif told Talbott in privacy that if he did as they wanted the next time "you came to Islamabad you would find yourself not dealing with a clean-shaven moderate but an Islamic
fundamentalist 'with a long beard.'"
zaheer2003
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Sheerheartattack
MPA (400+ posts)
He was always a Puppet and conspired against the army and institutions till his last days for power. Robbed the country with embezzlement and money laundering on a grand scale. PMLN is finished as a party. But Muslim league can rebuild under a new alliance or name but with Nawaz aka their corruption king who was the hand that fed them they are a laughing stock and will have a tarnished image for eternity in politics.
PMLN is no more, its only a party of loyals trying to save Nawaz Sharif's corruption. Cant live in the past.
PMLN is no more, its only a party of loyals trying to save Nawaz Sharif's corruption. Cant live in the past.
Zaidi Qasim
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Yeah, Talbott was the father of Karamat and other generals and is so reliable. You are so shameless that prove your PM wrong , you bring the Matser's writing and trying to tell us that they are the one who make all the decisions . Yeah, and Nawaz Sharif said the last world in his ear ... Get lost idiot. Talbot was griming in his grave thinking that Pakistan end up testing the Nukes.
I still believe with whatever differences, Nawaz Sharif is the best person to persuade Modi to calm down and resumption of talks.
Pakistani establishment should take his services with all respect dignity and full authority, hope Nawaz Sharif accepts.
We should move forward.
Similarly Zardari should be given task to tackle Baluchistan crisis and negotiate with Baluchis and Iran possibly he will do better.
Even though Musharraf health not good he should be used for USA n Western World UAE .
Fazal ur Rehman n IK for handling Taliban.
Army should try to handle KARACHI issue too , Army should negotiate with real representatives.
Pakistan is in difficult time
Possibly we need our economic experts Shaukat Aziz even Dar Miftah all in board .
Enough is Enough.
If you can’t prosecute use them for a better Pakistan.
They all are Maqrooz of Pakistan.
Pakistani establishment should take his services with all respect dignity and full authority, hope Nawaz Sharif accepts.
We should move forward.
Similarly Zardari should be given task to tackle Baluchistan crisis and negotiate with Baluchis and Iran possibly he will do better.
Even though Musharraf health not good he should be used for USA n Western World UAE .
Fazal ur Rehman n IK for handling Taliban.
Army should try to handle KARACHI issue too , Army should negotiate with real representatives.
Pakistan is in difficult time
Possibly we need our economic experts Shaukat Aziz even Dar Miftah all in board .
Enough is Enough.
If you can’t prosecute use them for a better Pakistan.
They all are Maqrooz of Pakistan.
If only YOUR PM nawaz was brave enough to tell 'Get Lost' to any one instead the coward lohar kept running off to washington to lick balls of the likes of Talbot and co to save his arse. But still shameless patwaris like yourself consider him as a demigod and keep jerking off to his make believe bravery.
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Zaidi Qasim
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Two things , If NS would not have gone rushing to Clinton to save the Phutto commando and his brother's ass in Kargil, they would have lost whatever respect they had at the time of climbing those hills without thinking of how to maintain proper supply lines for hundred of those poor soldiers who was massacred by Endian Bombing on the top in Kargil.
Second , when these ass holes found the soldiers stuck up there on the hill surrounded by Endian Soldiers and without supply line and India started to threatened to attack the western border, they got panicked and rushed NS to clinton on American's memorial day , just to save their skin . Check the pictures of Musharraf on tarmac when NS was boarding the plane.
Sheerheartattack
MPA (400+ posts)
Its good Sheikh Rasheed today once again clarified the point that Nawaz Sharif was opposed to the idea of Pakistan as a Nuclear power . Only sad PMLN noonies try to hoodwink and credit to Nawaz Sharif but forget his true epic role in Panama papers.
