Govt should aggressively profess the concept of collective Qurbani

[Shareef]

Eid ul Azha is approaching.
Mufti Munib ur Rahman has already stirred up a controversy saying sacrificial animals cannot be bought online. It reminds us of the Muftis of Khilafat e Usmania who declared printing press haram for 300 years pushing muslims back while the west progressed ahead. Later on, after having done the damage, same muftis declared the press as halal.
This year due to Corona virus and the soaring population in cities, the govt would do well to promote the concept of collective qurbani which is within sharia ambit and is also environment friendly compared to the litter of offals from individual qurbanis permeating the streets and galis posing a health threat.

 

[Oldwish]

Eid ul Azha is approaching. Mufti Munib ur Rahman has already stirred up a controversy saying sacrificial animals cannot be bought online. It reminds us of the Muftis of Khilafat e Usmania who declared printing press haram for 300 years pushing muslims back while the west pushed ahead. Later on, after doing the damage same muftis declared the press as halal. This year due to Corona virus and the soaring population in cities, the govt would do well to promote the concept of collective qurbani which is within sharia requirements and is environment friendly compared to the litter of offals from individual qurbanis permeating the streets and galis posing a health threat.

To you, your deen. To us our deen.

 

[Wake up Pak]

There is no qurbani in Deen e Islam.
Qurbani is only in mazhab.

 

[Shareef]

To you, your deen. To us our deen.

My deen is that Printing press was halal from day one and should have not been declared haram only to harm muslims and be declared halal later on. My deen is to offer collective qurbani according to the requirement of the time and according to allowance given by sharia? I don't know what is your deen!

 

[Pnauman Elvy]

No business like holy business.

 

[indigo]

There is no qurbani in Deen e Islam.
Qurbani is only in mazhab.

Har jagha aakar apna gand karna hota hai. bhai ek to apnae aap ko achi tarha declare kiya karo Ahmadiyo ki tarha. Or is tarha k batae apnae forums or apnae threads pe kiya karo. Aap ka deen or humara deen alag hai. yeh aesi hi baat hogai k ek hindu ek yahoodi ko bata raha hai k deen k kiya ahkaam hai.

 

[Wake up Pak]

Har jagha aakar apna gand karna hota hai. bhai ek to apnae aap ko achi tarha declare kiya karo Ahmadiyo ki tarha. Or is tarha k batae apnae forums or apnae threads pe kiya karo. Aap ka deen or humara deen alag hai. yeh aesi hi baat hogai k ek hindu ek yahoodi ko bata raha hai k deen k kiya ahkaam hai.

Tumhara deen say kiya layna dayna. Tum may aur doosray mazahib may ziada farq nahi.
Agar kisi baat ka jawab logic say nahi day saktay tu bus fatway laga doo. Kaafir, murtad ya qadiani ka label laga doo bus itni he tumhari auqaat hay.

 

[indigo]

Tumhara deen say kiya layna dayna. Tum may aur doosray mazahib may ziada farq nahi.
Agar kisi baat ka jawab logic say nahi day saktay tu bus fatway laga doo. Kaafir, murtad ya qadiani ka label laga doo bus itni he tumhari auqaat hay.

Gee Bilkul aap k deen se mere kuch nahi lena dena. Aap ko na murtad na kafir or na hi qadiani kaha hai. Logic ki bat to apko samjhni chahiyae k bunyaad se hamara ikhtalaf hai or batae aap hamae shariat ki suna rahae ho. Agar kisi sunni ko shariyat pata karni hai to woh sunni se pata karae ga. Pervez se nahi.

Aap kisi so called Quranic forum pe jao waha pe naye naye Pervezi atae rehtae hai unko hadayat diya karo.

 

[Wake up Pak]

Gee Bilkul aap k deen se mere kuch nahi lena dena. Aap ko na murtad na kafir or na hi qadiani kaha hai. Logic ki bat to apko samjhni chahiyae k bunyaad se hamara ikhtalaf hai or batae aap hamae shariat ki suna rahae ho. Agar kisi sunni ko shariyat pata karni hai to woh sunni se pata karae ga. Pervez se nahi.

Aap kisi so called Quranic forum pe jao waha pe naye naye Pervezi atae rehtae hai unko hadayat diya karo.

Kiya yeh forum tum own kartay ho?
Agar tumharay paas jawab nahi hay tu meri post ko tag kiyon kiya tha?
May nay tu kisi ko tag nahi kiya.
Agar jawab nahi hay tu dislike ya ignore karkay aagay nikal jao. Kiyon apna waqt zaya kar rahay ho.
Tumhara deen say koi wasta nahi tum loog mazhab kay pujari ho thats all.

 

[indigo]

Tumhara deen say koi wasta nahi tum loog mazhab kay pujari ho thats all.

jithae di khoti, uthe aan khaloti

 

[Wake up Pak]

jithae di khoti, uthe aan khaloti

Jab dalaeel nahi hotay tu banda apnay aap ko expose kar day ta hay. May na kaha tha kay tum loog mazhab kay pujari ho.

 

[Masud Javed]

I'm on board with this.

 

[Pnauman Elvy]

Mazham shru waheen say hota hay jahan say daleel aur critical thinking bund hotee hay

 

[Citizen X]

There is no qurbani in Deen e Islam.
Qurbani is only in mazhab.

I learn new things about your beliefs on the regular

"And complete the Hajj and 'umrah for Allah . But if you are prevented, then [offer] what can be obtained with ease of sacrificial animals. And do not shave your heads until the sacrificial animal has reached its place of slaughter. And whoever among you is ill or has an ailment of the head [making shaving necessary must offer] a ransom of fasting [three days] or charity or sacrifice. And when you are secure, then whoever performs 'umrah [during the Hajj months] followed by Hajj [offers] what can be obtained with ease of sacrificial animals. And whoever cannot find [or afford such an animal] - then a fast of three days during Hajj and of seven when you have returned [home]. Those are ten complete [days]. This is for those whose family is not in the area of al-Masjid al-Haram. And fear Allah and know that Allah is severe in penalty."

Surah Baqarah: 196

And the camels and cattle We have appointed for you as among the symbols of Allah ; for you therein is good. So mention the name of Allah upon them when lined up [for sacrifice]; and when they are [lifeless] on their sides, then eat from them and feed the needy and the beggar. Thus have We subjected them to you that you may be grateful.

Their meat will not reach Allah, nor will their blood, but what reaches Him is piety from you. Thus have We subjected them to you that you may glorify Allah for that [to] which He has guided you; and give good tidings to the doers of good.

Surah Hajj 36 37

 

[Wake up Pak]

I learn new things about your beliefs on the regular

"And complete the Hajj and 'umrah for Allah . But if you are prevented, then [offer] what can be obtained with ease of sacrificial animals. And do not shave your heads until the sacrificial animal has reached its place of slaughter. And whoever among you is ill or has an ailment of the head [making shaving necessary must offer] a ransom of fasting [three days] or charity or sacrifice. And when you are secure, then whoever performs 'umrah [during the Hajj months] followed by Hajj [offers] what can be obtained with ease of sacrificial animals. And whoever cannot find [or afford such an animal] - then a fast of three days during Hajj and of seven when you have returned [home]. Those are ten complete [days]. This is for those whose family is not in the area of al-Masjid al-Haram. And fear Allah and know that Allah is severe in penalty."

Surah Baqarah: 196

And the camels and cattle We have appointed for you as among the symbols of Allah ; for you therein is good. So mention the name of Allah upon them when lined up [for sacrifice]; and when they are [lifeless] on their sides, then eat from them and feed the needy and the beggar. Thus have We subjected them to you that you may be grateful.

Their meat will not reach Allah, nor will their blood, but what reaches Him is piety from you. Thus have We subjected them to you that you may glorify Allah for that [to] which He has guided you; and give good tidings to the doers of good.

Surah Hajj 36 37

At least you are learning something :)

Please tell me from the ayats you quoted that we have to slaughter the animal except during the Hajj (Hajj is another subject won't get into the detail now).

 

[Wake up Pak]

 

[Citizen X]

At least you are learning something :)

Please tell me from the ayats you quoted that we have to slaughter the animal except during the Hajj (Hajj is another subject won't get into the detail now).

Sunnah tawatir passed on from one generation to the next, just like "namaz" ?

 

[Wake up Pak]

Sunnah tawatir passed on from one generation to the next, just like "namaz" ?

Lol, we are "Lakeer kay faqeer" hain.
From quoting the ayat to sunnah tawatir. You got to be kidding me.
Hum nay Apni aqal ko istimaal nahi karna.
Sunnah of whom?
Suunah is only sunnatAllah.

 

[Citizen X]

Lol, we are "Lakeer kay faqeer" hain.
From quoting the ayat to sunnah tawatir. You got to be kidding me.
Hum nay Apni aqal ko istimaal nahi karna.
Sunnah of whom?
Suunah is only sunnatAllah.

1st you said there is no concept of Qurbani in Islam, as in its a total foreign concept totally Alien to Islam. Thats why the Ayahs of Quran posted, then the stance changed from absolute no Qurbani to Qurbani only in Hajj. See the constant changing of goal posts?

As for Sunnat Allah, who showed and taught us those? It was the Prophet s.a.w and Qurbani is part of that Sunnah, which goes back to the time of Prophet Ibraim a.s, and its not a fard because Allah s.w.t knew every muslim or muslim household would be able to afford it every year.

 

[Wake up Pak]

1st you said there is no concept of Qurbani in Islam, as in its a total foreign concept totally Alien to Islam. Thats why the Ayahs of Quran posted, then the stance changed from absolute no Qurbani to Qurbani only in Hajj. See the constant changing of goal posts?

As for Sunnat Allah, who showed and taught us those? It was the Prophet s.a.w and Qurbani is part of that Sunnah, which goes back to the time of Prophet Ibraim a.s, and its not a fard because Allah s.w.t knew every muslim or muslim household would be able to afford it every year.

When i said no qurbani it was about the thread starter's post not during the Hajj. millions of Muslims perform qurbani without any understanding/knowing that it is not required of them it is based on fake hadeeth and sunnah.
What will you achieve in slautering millions of animals? Please tell me how is it going to benefit the humanity?
Just empty ritual which has no place in Deen e Islam but for sure you will find it in mazhab.
Keep slautering no one stopping you or anyone. I won't fall for mazhabi crap as it has locked and brain washed the so called Muslim ummah.