FOR THOSE WHO CALLED NAJI A QADIYAANI

nation.lost.in.past

Voter (50+ posts)
SHAME ON THOSE MUNAFAQEEN WHO BLAMED NAJI TO B A QADIYAANI........ GET OUT TALIBAAN LOVERS [fazl] [imran] [qazi], U HAD NO PART IN MAKING PAKISTAN, now dont b pakistan's mama.... [attachment=1:2thp445e]col2.gif[/attachment:2thp445e][attachment=0:2thp445e]col2a.gif[/attachment:2thp445e]
 

abdulhaseeb23

MPA (400+ posts)
he is Qadyani supporter,, and the peroson who support Gustak-e-Rasool,,, is equal to Qadyani.... either he is qadyani or not
 

nation.lost.in.past

Voter (50+ posts)
abdulhaseeb23 said:
he is Qadyani supporter,, and the peroson who support Gustak-e-Rasool,,, is equal to Qadyani.... either he is qadyani or not
tuada kaa chitta hay....
If we dont give human rights to those who r minorities and weaker than us, then we have no right to beg for rights from west, as we r weaker than them....
 
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mcuk2001

Senator (1k+ posts)
nation.lost.in.past said:
abdulhaseeb23 said:
he is Qadyani supporter,, and the peroson who support Gustak-e-Rasool,,, is equal to Qadyani.... either he is qadyani or not
tuada kaa chitta hay....
If we dont give human rights to those who r minorities and weaker than us, then we have no right to beg for rights from west, as we r weaker than them....
Mubarik hoo App bhi Qadyani bun gay :)
 

kmaabbasi

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Hello brothers what does he want and why he want those rights only for qadiyanies (Pakistan main tou others key liye dood ki nahrain beh rahi hain), just think about one thing does any one have rights in pakistan that this Stupid Naji only cares about qadiyanies
And
Did you hear the tap recording in which Nazir naji is swear and swearing like street badmash
go to youtupe you must find that tape the following is a part of that tape.
Nazir Naji Exposed(swearing at jurnalist)
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xoNUP7U-EM[/video]
 

nation.lost.in.past

Voter (50+ posts)
Information-Minister said:
he is Qadyani supporter,, and the peroson who support Gustakh -e-Rasool,,, is equal to GUSTAKH E RASOOL .... either he is qadyani or not
AND HE WILL BURN IN HELL
ALLAH SAB KO APNAY HIFZ O AMAAN MEIN RAKHAY
AMEEN
"AND HE WILL BURN IN HELL " I m sorry but our problem is that we all think we r gods (Nauzubillah). how can u tell THAT u and I wouldnt GO IN HELL (btw I m a Peerzada Syed (sunni) and I heard hell fire will not touch us (lol)), have u never sinned??? Only thing he asked for was to give those poor qadiyanees atleast some rights, atleast consider them humans.
I think u should change "ALLAH SAB KO APNAY HIFZ O AMAAN MEIN RAKHAY " in "ALLAH MUSLMANO (who believe ur sect or thoughts) KO APNAY HIFZ O AMAAN MEIN RAKHAY.
BTW I THINK OF QADIYAANIIS AS NON-MUSLIM, BUT I FULLY SUPPORT THEM AS HUMANS.
 

nation.lost.in.past

Voter (50+ posts)
mcuk2001 said:
nation.lost.in.past said:
abdulhaseeb23 said:
he is Qadyani supporter,, and the peroson who support Gustak-e-Rasool,,, is equal to Qadyani.... either he is qadyani or not
tuada kaa chitta hay....
If we dont give human rights to those who r minorities and weaker than us, then we have no right to beg for rights from west, as we r weaker than them....
Mubarik hoo App bhi Qadyani bun gay :)
I know.... but Islam i believe in is nothing like this, I consider Allah to be "raheem and Kareem 1st" but I think our natiion believe in only "Jabar" although Jabar meant a bone doctor who used to straighten broken bones, so even this doesnt mean what our people think of, problem is that we follow "JalalPuriis, Jalandhriis" sect of Islam which is nothing like real Islam which is Suffiism, which converted these Jalandhriis and jalpurriiis parents into muslim with love and patience.
Any way i really dont care what these people think of me.
btw u have a very nice signature, O Lord...... this is what suffiism is, pure love of God, not lust of heaven or fear of hell, to love Allah u just have to look at urself and u will love Allah, like Bullhe Shah said.
 

nation.lost.in.past

Voter (50+ posts)
kmaabbasi said:
Hello brothers what does he want and why he want those rights only for qadiyanies (Pakistan main tou others key liye dood ki nahrain beh rahi hain), just think about one thing does any one have rights in pakistan that this Stupid Naji only cares about qadiyanies
And
Did you hear the tap recording in which Nazir naji is swear and swearing like street badmash
go to youtupe you must find that tape the following is a part of that tape.
Nazir Naji Exposed(swearing at jurnalist)
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xoNUP7U-EM[/video]
Its not about doodh ki nehray, but its about human righgts, these poor people will be beaten to death if they even say salam to us. We all were so happy when we thought obama was a muslim and he has muslim roots in him, where do we stand??? USA became USA because they dont care if u r a jew, muslim, hindu or whatever, u have all american rights if u r in america, wher do we stand???

btw if some one call u and try to trap u in saying stuff which r not true may be u will do worst than him, after all Naji said sorry. what else should he say.
 

abdulhaseeb23

MPA (400+ posts)
nation.lost.in.past:--

tu tum kia chahte hoo unn ko khul ke yeh haqooq de dain ke tum khul ke gustaki karo aur hum tumhein maaf kerdein ke yeh Human Rights hai,,, mujhe aik baat batao koi Pakitan mein chirsitian ko kuch nahi bolta, koi hindus ko kuch nahi bolta,, sab ko gussa sirf qadiayanis per q hai zara yeh socho,, ais ki wajah abb tumhein batata hoo agar ain ko khul ke ijjazat de di jain tu yeh apne kufffar ke tabligh zoor shoor se shroo kerdein aur phir humein kafir kehne lagen gai jo inho ne Assembly mein kaha tha jab ain ko apna moukif dene ke liye bulaya tha... aur jahan tak human rights ki baat hai tu yeh jaan loo ke Paksitan mein bureaucrats ke Auhade per ain ki aik kaseer tadad hai,,, agar yeh gustaki karen gai to,, toh phir human rights nahi dhekein jaen gai.... aur jahan tak gareeb logon ke human rights ki tum aur yeh Naji baat ker rahe hoo tu mujhe aik baat batao unn ko konse human rights mil rahe hai jo salon sai wadiron ke zulm sah rahe hain,, yeh Naji ko woh q yaad nahi atta,, unn IDPs ko hoqumat kahan haqooq de rahi hai balke america mein gungroo club mein dollars lutarahe hain aun ke human rights ke barre mein koi huqumat per tanqeed q nahi kerta,, kia woh human nahi hai,,,, yeh sirf pese ke kutte hain ain ko kahin se mil gai honge pese tu yeh aus ke peche chale gai ,, dosre ke Human rights ki baat kerte hain khud Islamabad mein plot ki siasat mein dosre ke rights maar rahe hain
 

kmaabbasi

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
human rights kay bacho , ab tum kaho gay jo log nagay ghomna chahtay hain un ko un ka haq dia jai , kis human right ki baat ker rahay ho Qadiyani supportors?
 

mehwish_ali

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
by Abdulhasseeb:

tu tum kia chahte hoo unn ko khul ke yeh haqooq de dain ke tum khul ke gustaki karo aur hum tumhein maaf kerdein ke yeh Human Rights hai,,, mujhe aik baat batao koi Pakitan mein chirsitian ko kuch nahi bolta, koi hindus ko kuch nahi bolta,, sab ko gussa sirf qadiayanis per q hai zara yeh socho,, ais ki wajah abb tumhein batata hoo agar ain ko khul ke ijjazat de di jain tu yeh apne kufffar ke tabligh zoor shoor se shroo kerdein aur phir humein kafir kehne lagen gai jo inho ne Assembly mein kaha tha jab ain ko apna moukif dene ke liye bulaya tha... aur jahan tak human rights ki baat hai tu yeh jaan loo ke Paksitan mein bureaucrats ke Auhade per ain ki aik kaseer tadad hai,,, agar yeh gustaki karen gai to,, toh phir human rights nahi dhekein jaen gai.... aur jahan tak gareeb logon ke human rights ki tum aur yeh Naji baat ker rahe hoo tu mujhe aik baat batao unn ko konse human rights mil rahe hai jo salon sai wadiron ke zulm sah rahe hain,, yeh Naji ko woh q yaad nahi atta,, unn IDPs ko hoqumat kahan haqooq de rahi hai balke america mein gungroo club mein dollars lutarahe hain aun ke human rights ke barre mein koi huqumat per tanqeed q nahi kerta,, kia woh human nahi hai,,,, yeh sirf pese ke kutte hain ain ko kahin se mil gai honge pese tu yeh aus ke peche chale gai ,, dosre ke Human rights ki baat kerte hain khud Islamabad mein plot ki siasat mein dosre ke rights maar rahe hain


The Problem with these extremist fanatics is as under:

1. They try to twist the things as only Shaitan could do. As from Human Rights Mr. Hasseeb means only Abusing Rasool (saw) [Naudobillah].

2. There AQL has been taken away by Allah due to their blind hatred, otherwise every sane person knows HUMAN Rights mean is to Obey the LAW of Country (i.e. Pakistan in our case) and not to take the LAW in your hand [i.e. MOB JUSTICE]

3. In our Case, LAW of Pakistan has put some restrictions over them. And if they go against LAW of Pakistan, then they should be get trailed only and only under LAW of Pakistan and only Courts have the rights to pass the judgment if they did contrary to Law of Pakistan or Not.

4. But this is not the case with Qadianies, but they have to face MOB Justice and have to face abuse and hatred from extremist Fanatics, and this is the violation of Human Rights.

5. Also, I should point out that there MOST USED Argument (but the MOST STUPID one) is this why to talk about Human Rights of Qadianies when other there are also other poor peoples like Haries of Sindh etc (just see example of this argument above in Mr. Haseeb's post)
This behaviour is sign of real Fanatic Mad person and I don't think I need to comment upon it. They want to keep on killing Qadianies and don't want to speak about it while Sindhi Wadayra also do ZULM upon his Hariees.

*************************

Here is an example of this MOB Justice and abuse of Human Rights.

dated: June 8, 2008
www.dawn.com

Professor Dr Asghar Ali Randhawa, Principal Of Punjab Medical College Rusticated 15 Ahmadi Women Students And 8 Men Students From The College As Well As Hostels On June 5, 2008. Four Of The Women Students Were In The Final Year Of Their Studies.

As Per Essential Details, A Campaign Was Going On For The Last One Month Against Ahmadi Women Students Who Were Accused Of Preaching Ahmadiyyat. It Is Not Far-fetched That An Ahmadi Occasionally Chooses To Defend Herself Against The Oft-repeated Charge That ahmadis Are The Worst Enemies Of Islam And Pakistan. At This College, The Anti-ahmadi Campaign Was Supported By A Warden Of The Hostel. Moreover The Miscreants Took To Pasting Highly Slanderous And Provocative Posters On Walls. On May 28, 2008 They Put Up In The Hostel A Very Outrageous And Evil Poster Against The Founder Of Ahmadiyyat. An Ahmadi Student Took Off One Of These And Showed It To The Warden And Requested Her To Restore Some Decency In The Hostel. The Wardens Reaction Was Negative And Partial. Later A Number Of Male Students Joined The Campaign. The Issue Came Before The Principal Whom Some Parents Of Ahmadi Students Met And Requested To Improve The Hostel Environment. The Principal, At The Excuse Of Security, Told All Ahmadi Women Students To Shift To One Wing Of The Hostel, Although Their
Parents Were Not Agreeable To This Polarization.

As All This Was An Organized Campaign, Some Extremist Male Students, Mostly From The islami Jamiat Talaba, Increased Their Efforts To Poison The College Environment Further And Threatned The Principle Of Those Consiquences Which Are Happening In Northern Area Of Pakistan. The College Administration, Rather Than Handling Them Firmly As Done By The Punjab University Recently, Gave Them A Free Hand. They Started Issuing Threats To Ahmadi Students. One Of Them Even Went To Different Class Rooms And Openly Prompted Others To Undertake Violence. They Put Up Still More Of The Provocative Posters On College Walls.

On June 4, The Miscreants Abducted 4 Ahmadi Students From The Hostel And Subjected Them To Physical Torture. They Took In A Mulla To Help Them With Religious Slander. They Made A Video Tape Of The Manhandling Of Their Victims. They Forcibly Undertook Search Of Ahmadi Students Rooms And Belongings, And Even Stole What They Wanted. This Went On For Hours. An Attempt Was Made To Inform The Principal Of What Was Going On But He Was Reported To Be Sleeping. So The Police Were Informed But They Decided Not To Intervene. Eventually, The Parents Of The Students Whose Lives Were Now At Risk, Managed To Wake Up The Principal Whose Intervention Secured The Release Of The Abductees.

the Drop Scene Of this Sordid Drama Occurred On June 5 When The Miscreants Went On Strike, Surrounded The Principals Office And Demanded Rustication Of All The Ahmadi Students. The Principal Held A Session Of The Disciplinary Committee And Issued Orders To Rusticate 23 Ahmadi Students. The Committee Did Not Send For Any Ahmadi Student, Pressed No Charges, Heard Nothing In Defense From Any One, And Rusticated En-masse All 23 Of Them. This Action Is Immoral, Illegal, Unsupportable - Pure Tyranny. These Doctors And Professors Have Behaved Like A Bunch Of Mullas And Policemen Who When They Suspect One Ahmadi Of Violating The Ahmadi-specific Law, Proceed To Charge A Score In The Fir And Arrest Them All. If Any Ahmadi Student Was At Fault, She Could Have Been Disciplined Weeks Ago, However It Is Obvious That By June 5 The Principal Got Unduly And Overly Scared Of The Extremists And Became A Tool In Their Hands To Do Their Bid. His Conduct Was Then No Longer That Of A Principal.


This is what is known as violation of Human Rights and "TAZLEEL" of humanity by these Religious extremist Fanatics.
But for these Fanatics Human Right violation is only going out NANGA blah blah blah. ( I just seek Allah's refuge from the sick mentality of these so called Religious Fanatics)

These Young Boys and Girls of medical Collage, although they are Non-Muslims, but after all they are Human Beings. What happens if our child or daughter had to spend whole night at mercy of such retarded Fanatics outside of their rooms? And POLICE, it is also under pressure to these Fanatics and instead of taking custody of these young boys and girls, it left them at the mercy of these brain washed fanatics who take not a single moment to kill them and thus in their thinking get the Ticket to Jannah by killing a non-muslim.

And if some one Protests over this madness, then he is blamed to be Qadiani himself and FATWA of Hell fire is ready for him.

I just tell my nation to seek Allah's refuge to these SICK Religious Extremist Fanatics. They are the biggest Fitna of this ERA.
 

kmaabbasi

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Very Very Very and very simple these all supporting nazir naji are qadiyani or close to them I mean they belong to a fiqa that is afrad to be declared qadiyani (samjhdaar ko ishara kafi hai) let them shout about their so called human right where were ur human right when 1400 childers and people were killed in palistine , We dont see the happyness any where near or far for muslim and weather you are Pir or Murshid if you are muslim talk about hadith and quran to avoid confilict.
thats all my dear.
 

mcuk2001

Senator (1k+ posts)
idiot molvi

tum mere agge kuch bhi laga dou lakin Gustak-e-Rasool(SAW) ko maaf nahi kiya jae gaa,,,
aur tumhare liye bhi aik bagairat ki tasveer hai [altaf][/quote]


[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOuzdiZyJco[/video]
 

nation.lost.in.past

Voter (50+ posts)
The Problem with these extremist fanatics is as under:

1. They try to twist the things as only Shaitan could do. As from Human Rights Mr. Hasseeb means only Abusing Rasool (saw) [Naudobillah].

2. There AQL has been taken away by Allah due to their blind hatred, otherwise every sane person knows HUMAN Rights mean is to Obey the LAW of Country (i.e. Pakistan in our case) and not to take the LAW in your hand [i.e. MOB JUSTICE]

3. In our Case, LAW of Pakistan has put some restrictions over them. And if they go against LAW of Pakistan, then they should be get trailed only and only under LAW of Pakistan and only Courts have the rights to pass the judgment if they did contrary to Law of Pakistan or Not.

4. But this is not the case with Qadianies, but they have to face MOB Justice and have to face abuse and hatred from extremist Fanatics, and this is the violation of Human Rights.

5. Also, I should point out that there MOST USED Argument (but the MOST STUPID one) is this why to talk about Human Rights of Qadianies when other there are also other poor peoples like Haries of Sindh etc (just see example of this argument above in Mr. Haseeb's post)
This behaviour is sign of real Fanatic Mad person and I don't think I need to comment upon it. They want to keep on killing Qadianies and don't want to speak about it while Sindhi Wadayra also do ZULM upon his Hariees.

*************************

Here is an example of this MOB Justice and abuse of Human Rights.

dated: June 8, 2008
http://www.dawn.com

Professor Dr Asghar Ali Randhawa, Principal Of Punjab Medical College Rusticated 15 Ahmadi Women Students And 8 Men Students From The College As Well As Hostels On June 5, 2008. Four Of The Women Students Were In The Final Year Of Their Studies.

As Per Essential Details, A Campaign Was Going On For The Last One Month Against Ahmadi Women Students Who Were Accused Of Preaching Ahmadiyyat. It Is Not Far-fetched That An Ahmadi Occasionally Chooses To Defend Herself Against The Oft-repeated Charge That ahmadis Are The Worst Enemies Of Islam And Pakistan. At This College, The Anti-ahmadi Campaign Was Supported By A Warden Of The Hostel. Moreover The Miscreants Took To Pasting Highly Slanderous And Provocative Posters On Walls. On May 28, 2008 They Put Up In The Hostel A Very Outrageous And Evil Poster Against The Founder Of Ahmadiyyat. An Ahmadi Student Took Off One Of These And Showed It To The Warden And Requested Her To Restore Some Decency In The Hostel. The Wardens Reaction Was Negative And Partial. Later A Number Of Male Students Joined The Campaign. The Issue Came Before The Principal Whom Some Parents Of Ahmadi Students Met And Requested To Improve The Hostel Environment. The Principal, At The Excuse Of Security, Told All Ahmadi Women Students To Shift To One Wing Of The Hostel, Although Their
Parents Were Not Agreeable To This Polarization.

As All This Was An Organized Campaign, Some Extremist Male Students, Mostly From The islami Jamiat Talaba, Increased Their Efforts To Poison The College Environment Further And Threatned The Principle Of Those Consiquences Which Are Happening In Northern Area Of Pakistan. The College Administration, Rather Than Handling Them Firmly As Done By The Punjab University Recently, Gave Them A Free Hand. They Started Issuing Threats To Ahmadi Students. One Of Them Even Went To Different Class Rooms And Openly Prompted Others To Undertake Violence. They Put Up Still More Of The Provocative Posters On College Walls.

On June 4, The Miscreants Abducted 4 Ahmadi Students From The Hostel And Subjected Them To Physical Torture. They Took In A Mulla To Help Them With Religious Slander. They Made A Video Tape Of The Manhandling Of Their Victims. They Forcibly Undertook Search Of Ahmadi Students Rooms And Belongings, And Even Stole What They Wanted. This Went On For Hours. An Attempt Was Made To Inform The Principal Of What Was Going On But He Was Reported To Be Sleeping. So The Police Were Informed But They Decided Not To Intervene. Eventually, The Parents Of The Students Whose Lives Were Now At Risk, Managed To Wake Up The Principal Whose Intervention Secured The Release Of The Abductees.

the Drop Scene Of this Sordid Drama Occurred On June 5 When The Miscreants Went On Strike, Surrounded The Principals Office And Demanded Rustication Of All The Ahmadi Students. The Principal Held A Session Of The Disciplinary Committee And Issued Orders To Rusticate 23 Ahmadi Students. The Committee Did Not Send For Any Ahmadi Student, Pressed No Charges, Heard Nothing In Defense From Any One, And Rusticated En-masse All 23 Of Them. This Action Is Immoral, Illegal, Unsupportable - Pure Tyranny. These Doctors And Professors Have Behaved Like A Bunch Of Mullas And Policemen Who When They Suspect One Ahmadi Of Violating The Ahmadi-specific Law, Proceed To Charge A Score In The Fir And Arrest Them All. If Any Ahmadi Student Was At Fault, She Could Have Been Disciplined Weeks Ago, However It Is Obvious That By June 5 The Principal Got Unduly And Overly Scared Of The Extremists And Became A Tool In Their Hands To Do Their Bid. His Conduct Was Then No Longer That Of A Principal.


This is what is known as violation of Human Rights and "TAZLEEL" of humanity by these Religious extremist Fanatics.
But for these Fanatics Human Right violation is only going out NANGA blah blah blah. ( I just seek Allah's refuge from the sick mentality of these so called Religious Fanatics)

These Young Boys and Girls of medical Collage, although they are Non-Muslims, but after all they are Human Beings. What happens if our child or daughter had to spend whole night at mercy of such retarded Fanatics outside of their rooms? And POLICE, it is also under pressure to these Fanatics and instead of taking custody of these young boys and girls, it left them at the mercy of these brain washed fanatics who take not a single moment to kill them and thus in their thinking get the Ticket to Jannah by killing a non-muslim.

And if some one Protests over this madness, then he is blamed to be Qadiani himself and FATWA of Hell fire is ready for him.

I just tell my nation to seek Allah's refuge to these SICK Religious Extremist Fanatics. They are the biggest Fitna of this ERA.[/quote]
My point exactly......
Its not just these guys fault, but its how they were taught since they were very young... I remember how people and my friends teased and borthered our neighbors who were qadiyanees...until they left...
Haseeb thinks that all minorities has rights in pakistan, then tell me what do we call christians of pakistan??? dont we still call them "CHOORA" even if they r more educated than us!!! I have no idea about hindus as i never met them in punjab.....
U talk about "Ghareeb Haariis" but yet u vote ppp, nawaz shariff, tip, religiious parties (who r landlords front men).
 

nation.lost.in.past

Voter (50+ posts)
kmaabbasi said:
human rights kay bacho , ab tum kaho gay jo log nagay ghomna chahtay hain un ko un ka haq dia jai , kis human right ki baat ker rahay ho Qadiyani supportors?
"human rights kay bacho " jairay wailay murree di pahariya te Upper Deval baighair langot phirda si na tu, te koi kujh nahi aakhda si tusa ki(best of my knowledge) us ki human right aakhday nay BARYO...