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Shah Shatranj

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Meetha Meetha hup hup, karhwa karhwa tou tou.

ZAB enjoyed several ministries under Ayub Khan.

While some elements created IJI, other elements were helping Benazir during 90's, which was halaal of course.

Zardari gave NRO to Musharraf so that he could become President.

But leave everything aside, PPP has been part of the govt in some form for the last 50 years(Specially in Sindh), and still you won't be able to name a single department Sindh where PPP has done some visible reforms. In fact they are the ones who are known for reversing reform work because they call Criminals as Bahadar Bacha..
All the time game was never out of the hands of establishment and all the time game was never in hands of civilians ....
Why should we blame civilians who are never free to rule Long Marches and dharnas and judiciary has always paralyzed civilian ... Did these things happen in dictators era when their rule would be paralyzed ???
It is not NRO to face rigging death and long marches then judicial activism
Real NRO is given to Imran Niazi whose govt being protected through powerful institutes and judiciary
 

Vulcan Vendetta

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
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Zerdari and Nawaz governments were undermined by the Army Generals.Its not easy to perform when ur own Generals become traitors,as we have seen in Memo gate case.
Oh its not easy to perform but it surely is easy to loot the money by billions n move it out of country lol.
What did they try to do in police that was sabotaged by army?
Did army tell them to ruin railways?
Army didnt want them to focus on steel mill, shipyard, pnsc, pia n other money making departments?
They dont have a problem when they make 15 years deal with qatris for lng with highest rates of the history of the world, no problem making deals with ip's to pay them billions even if they dont give us any power, no problem in spending billions n billions of dollars on roads that dont even have traffic on them, no problem spending 100 billion on 27 km metro for kickbacks, no problem bribing n buying judges to punish ur opponents, no problem in opening fire on innocent Pakistanis in middle of lahore to kill, no problem in speaking openly against army n judiciary when they r not able to provide even one proof of their wealth, the hell no problem in getting calibri fonts one year before it comes to market but ofcourse focussing on improvements of institutions was "not easy" because of army lol
Akal ka nishan e haider hota to ajj tumhein hi milta.
 

miafridi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
All the time game was never out of the hands of establishment and all the time game was never in hands of civilians ....
Why should we blame civilians who are never free to rule Long Marches and dharnas and judiciary has always paralyzed civilian ... Did these things happen in dictators era when their rule would be paralyzed ???
It is not NRO to face rigging death and long marches then judicial activism
Real NRO is given to Imran Niazi whose govt being protected through powerful institutes and judiciary
The Point is that even if today Establishment offer a helping hand to Zardari, he would go on his knees to grab it.
 

Shah Shatranj

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The Point is that even if today Establishment offer a helping hand to Zardari, he would go on his knees to grab it.
if Zardari had to bow to establishment like Kaptaan Niazi , he would never be in jail
He was better choice than Imran Khan
here comes the difference between public representatives and boot lickers
Zardari categorically denied any compromise on 18th amendment
Bilawal asked for production orders of Ali Wazir and Mohsin Dawar
and where all PTI stands under shadow of boots
this is difference between a self seller and principled
 

miafridi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
if Zardari had to bow to establishment like Kaptaan Niazi , he would never be in jail
He was better choice than Imran Khan
here comes the difference between public representatives and boot lickers
Zardari categorically denied any compromise on 18th amendment
Bilawal asked for production orders of Ali Wazir and Mohsin Dawar
and where all PTI stands under shadow of boots
this is difference between a self seller and principled
Good Joke Lolzzz. Nawaz Sharif Aur Maryam k paon kis principal k tehat pakrhay?
 
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