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atensari

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70 Muslims are killed what else you need, these type of mistakes will be continue until last Muslim exist on planet earth
 

PakPatriot1

Senator (1k+ posts)
sagaciouscorpion said:
digitalzygot said:
They don't care how many muslims died, afghanistan isn't IRAQ they are digging their own graves


And our govt has allowed them to plunder our country too.

But our govt. doesn't not have any other option or choice too. May be you can say me a coward but this is the reality. Power dictates my dear.
 

sagaciouscorpion

MPA (400+ posts)
@patriot....

Unfortunately.... thats true.. but if we dont guard our own national interests against this new East India Company and wiggle our way out of this .....we are giong to end up in a mess worse than Iraq.. that is what concerns me the most...
 

PakPatriot1

Senator (1k+ posts)
sagaciouscorpion said:
@patriot....

Unfortunately.... thats true.. but if we dont guard our own national interests against this new East India Company and wiggle our way out of this .....we are giong to end up in a mess worse than Iraq.. that is what concerns me the most...

But how? That's the mother of all questions.
When USA and UK were going to Iraq, the most powerful countries like France, Russia, Germany, China and Canada only asked them to not to go, but they were not in the position to stop them by force. They just demanded and that's it.
Who are we then? "PIDDI KA SHORBA" ?
We just can demand or do the diplomatic efforts and that's what we are doing, nothing much we can do.
Another solution is to fight until we die or win. The odds are obvious. Are we prepared and ready?
 

sagaciouscorpion

MPA (400+ posts)
Unfortunately... the diplomatic efforts are just half hearted... you see.. there was a time when the govt was making a lot of hue and cry on the drone attacks... then finally we found out that the drones fly from our own soil... today media is shouting about the embassy expansion and XE mercenaries... but govt is smiling... at least we can do the things which we can...

ager hum lait tay hi jaengay to there is no end to their demands...

After all the Turkish parliment decided not to allow them to use their territory for attacking Iraq.. Iran defies them, North Korea defies them.. Look what we have brought to our hameland with the war on terror... The war is being faought on our territory... and it is a never ending war... they would run away.. and leave us in a mes..

I suggest you to watch "city of walls" on youtube.. eye opener...

This is a quagmire... we should do something to end the American influence from our soil before they leave us fighting one another...

On the diplomatic front..cant we extend ties with Russia, Europe and others and create a balance ....rather than sitting in the lap of the US..the world doesnt end in America...
 

PakPatriot1

Senator (1k+ posts)
sagaciouscorpion said:
Unfortunately... the diplomatic efforts are just half hearted... you see.. there was a time when the govt was making a lot of hue and cry on the drone attacks... then finally we found out that the drones fly from our own soil... today media is shouting about the embassy expansion and XE mercenaries... but govt is smiling... at least we can do the things which we can...

ager hum lait tay hi jaengay to there is no end to their demands...

After all the Turkish parliment decided not to allow them to use their territory for attacking Iraq.. Iran defies them, North Korea defies them.. Look what we have brought to our hameland with the war on terror... The war is being faought on our territory... and it is a never ending war... they would run away.. and leave us in a mes..

I suggest you to watch "city of walls" on youtube.. eye opener...

This is a quagmire... we should do something to end the American influence from our soil before they leave us fighting one another...

On the diplomatic front..cant we extend ties with Russia, Europe and others and create a balance ....rather than sitting in the lap of the US..the world doesnt end in America...

You are right we should consider some otherways to get ourselves out of this mess. But, unfortunately we have a serious lack of wise leadership in Pakistan. What you can expect from them? Just suit case ready leadership can not do anything for us.

To reinstate diplomatic ties with Russia, may be yes, but how Russia can trust you? Woh tou ab tak apne zakhm chaat raha hai, jo war hum ne lari american backing pur.
NATO forces are in Afghanisttan right now, they comprise of amaricans and europians, how come we make efforts with europians while putting americans aside?

The only little thing we can do is to make a huge hue and cry on every incident on our soil. We should engage the international media and convince the americans that your actions are not even in the favor of your own interests in the region. May be this effort can bring a little difference in the situation, but again coming back to square one, who will do that? Our learship? I am disappointed.
 

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