will the pak army protect us

[shuja123]

Hi all, it seems the Son of an airforce officer is said to be involved in the NY times square bombing attempt, the question im asking is not if shehzad saab is guilty or innocent. Im not even asking if US is performing one of its great false flag operation or was this really a big threat to US.

My question is, if the USA wages a full war on any part of Pakistan, will our army help the USA or defend our brothers and sisters. because it seems authorisation of more drone attacks have been received by the US army.

and what will ur view be about our army if it chooses to take the US side. if u think theat choosing the US side is the best thing to do please also mention that u consider enemies of pakistan enemies of US and vice versa.

I really need to know what everyone or most of the people here think

 

[umariqbal]

afcource they ll protect us.u wud b nuts to think they wont.. They r already doin it. they hve been doin it since the birth of da country. Ya they screwed da country too at some occasions. but our army always think good for Pakistan. Thats how i fee atleast.

 

[sarbakaf]

Bhai look at facts...

Pakistan army never lets any one touch its personel , they will not let americans take air marshell of pakistan air force.

Secondly in case americans confront pakistan army , pakistan will simply take its support away from afghanistan and americans will cry blood ...i mean vietnam II for usa....

third.....if americans confront pakistan army ..it will make pakistani taliban support pakistan army ....which is a nightmare sanerio for americans....

fourth.......pakistan army will stop all drone attacks etc....and will allow free way to pakistani taiban to afghanistan....again a nightmare for americans...

any way ...dont worry ..americans dont every confront with pakistan army ..specially when their own lives are dependent on performance of pakistan army....

InshahAllah Pakistan will be there safe and sound even when americans will be fleeing from Afghanistan

 

[shuja123]

Bhai look at facts...

Pakistan army never lets any one touch its personel , they will not let americans take air marshell of pakistan air force.

Secondly in case americans confront pakistan army , pakistan will simply take its support away from afghanistan and americans will cry blood ...i mean vietnam II for usa....

third.....if americans confront pakistan army ..it will make pakistani taliban support pakistan army ....which is a nightmare sanerio for americans....

fourth.......pakistan army will stop all drone attacks etc....and will allow free way to pakistani taiban to afghanistan....again a nightmare for americans...

any way ...dont worry ..americans dont every confront with pakistan army ..specially when their own lives are dependent on performance of pakistan army....

InshahAllah Pakistan will be there safe and sound even when americans will be fleeing from Afghanistan

im getting a hint from ur post that u think that Pakistani taliban are working for our own army. if im wrong my second question is what makes u think we can set the pakistani taliban on the forces in afghanistan.

as far as u said that pak army never lets the americans touch one of their own, did u mean military personal or normal ppl of pakistan as well. and i think while posting u have forgotten that pak army is letting america use its bases for these drone attacks and more than 500 ppl have been killed 90% women and children, if it makes u feel happy we'll at least call the men militants.

 

[gazoomartian]

Bhai look at facts...

Pakistan army never lets any one touch its personel , they will not let americans take air marshell of pakistan air force.

Secondly in case americans confront pakistan army , pakistan will simply take its support away from afghanistan and americans will cry blood ...i mean vietnam II for usa....

third.....if americans confront pakistan army ..it will make pakistani taliban support pakistan army ....which is a nightmare sanerio for americans....

fourth.......pakistan army will stop all drone attacks etc....and will allow free way to pakistani taiban to afghanistan....again a nightmare for americans...

any way ...dont worry ..americans dont every confront with pakistan army ..specially when their own lives are dependent on performance of pakistan army....

InshahAllah Pakistan will be there safe and sound even when americans will be fleeing from Afghanistan

well said, and shuja, sarbakaf has the answer for you

the threat issued by Clinton is mostly for home consumption. Americans are not a position to attack Pakistan. We can and we should cutoff supply line thru our waters. Americans know it. Clinton just wants to be a macho woman for her citizens......besides Faisal's case is a doctored one any way. Do you find a coincidence that this case was announced a day or two after the conviction of ajmal k***ab? I dont find it a coincidence at all. Well planned by the CIA/RAW/Mossad cartel.They just want us preoccupied in one case or the other

 

[shuja123]

well than if it so easy then why is our army letting america use our bases for drone attacks, actually why is our letting any drone attacks happen at all, why dont they stop them if theres nothing to worry about.

and weather it was doctored or not is not the issue. it doesent even matter. those who want to think its doctored (including myself) will think it is, and those who want to think it was real will think of it that way.

question is if america attacks a part of pakistan will our army join america's side or help its countrymen who they swear to protect

 

[Zaidi Qasim]

lets have my share of the thoughts.

I think if American really push hard, our Army will definately conduct search opertions against its own people within the army or outside of the Army.Pakistani Army unfortunately is totally dependent on American Aid and support and it is using the weapons supplied by Americans. It is illogical to think that they can stand up against American.I ,Like every Pakistani, wish if they can stand up against bully, but it is highly unlikely that they would do it.

The reality is that most of our Generals are American trained and pretty much brainwashed by pentagon. It is hard to find anyone who is not greedy in the senior ranks and their appetite for the war is pretty much vanished with luxuries around them. It is tough sitting in hours in trunches with common soldiers ,they rather be sitting in their air conditioned rooms in GHQ. so, Why bother. It is better to meekly surrendered and asked them to provide them some more dollars for not fighting against them. ( That has already happened in Iraq) so don't depend too much on this Army and its Generals for defending you.

 

[shuja123]

lets have my share of the thoughts.

I think if American really push hard, our Army will definately conduct search opertions against its own people within the army or outside of the Army.Pakistani Army unfortunately is totally dependent on American Aid and support and it is using the weapons supplied by Americans. It is illogical to think that they can stand up against American.I ,Like every Pakistani, wish if they can stand up against bully, but it is highly unlikely that they would do it.

The reality is that most of our Generals are American trained and pretty much brainwashed by pentagon. It is hard to find anyone who is not greedy in the senior ranks and their appetite for the war is pretty much vanished with luxuries around them. It is tough sitting in hours in trunches with common soldiers ,they rather be sitting in their air conditioned rooms in GHQ. so, Why bother. It is better to meekly surrendered and asked them to provide them some more dollars for not fighting against them. ( That has already happened in Iraq) so don't depend too much on this Army and its Generals for defending you.

with respect to ur thoughts (mine are not to off the line from urs) what do u think should be done if our army or generals (or what ever word u like to use) starts killing our people. because we have been watching this happen for the last 7 years now.

 

[Pakistan786]

with respect to ur thoughts (mine are not to off the line from urs) what do u think should be done if our army or generals (or what ever word u like to use) starts killing our people. because we have been watching this happen for the last 7 years now.

I think ur question is wrong. This army is not our army its a USA army paid and commanded by the USA.

We the Muslims are under seige by the USA every where in the world. I am really sorry to say that Pakistan seems not to be created for the Muslims or ordinary people of the land but was created for a purpose and given to those who are the sole owners of the country since its creation.

I am really sorry if my remarks hearts some one feelings BUT its a reality. At least I am witnessing this every day of my life.

 

[sangeen]

seemple bat bolega bhaai log.... thora bad alfaz use karega naraz nahi hona..... Angrez qom ki ek adat hae......

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[LeftBrain]

well to answer this question, I personally like to think that any country's army try to defend its country and its people in any such event. But this Pak army is completely in-capable of protecting a single pakistani. This is what history tells us. This army lost war in 1648, lost war in 1965 (Muasharti uloom ki kitaabain parh kar 1965 ko Defence day mananey waalo, read details of UN interference to save our face in Sep 1965) we lost war in 1971 and we lost Kargil war in 1999.

This is the only muslim army in the world which lost a war and a piece of its own land when 90,000 of its "mujahideens" were still alive.

All this army is capable of is killing Pakistanis, they killed sindhi brothers in 1985 MRD movement, they killed Mohajirs in 1992 extra judicial killing campaign, they killed Baluchi brothers under Musharraf regime, they also killed Baluchi and Pashtun brothers in 1970s.

There is not a single incident in our history that suggest that this army is capable of doing any thing positive.

 

[Zaidi Qasim]

with respect to ur thoughts (mine are not to off the line from urs) what do u think should be done if our army or generals (or what ever word u like to use) starts killing our people. because we have been watching this happen for the last 7 years now.

What you think can be done ? From the pure Islamic concept,the begging is not allowed in Islam. Mere Fact that we are beggar to American Aid and therefore we can't get our dignity back. Islam strongly discourage begging because of this fact. What we need is a total reform society which dosn't look for the loans and aids from foreign Masters. We need local economy, our own set of rules and very strict reform agenda to improve our domestic output and increase our own local industries. Noe of which is happening right now and we are too busy begging around the globe. As long as we extend our hand for foreign aids, we are doomed and can't get back on our feets.

 

[YAHYA87]

Our Generals are the Biggest problem here and despite of best standard and COC in our Army yet we couldnt able to find Fine army Officers so we need to develop training program for them to do there job efficiently and effectively by controlling soldiers....If we know about American para military or Police commandos like SWAT all they do is follow the protocols which they are trained for like if there are more men then call for backup and stay low as much as possible or if a partner is in danger then there is another set of protocol which are used according to situation during operations in the same way such training program should be designed for Pakistan army's officers as well so that they could able to control the situation in the battle field and also able to develop a good network with other officers and generals...Just Nara-e-Takbeer Allah Akber is not enough for Battle field but strategy and strategic actions are also necessary...So this is where our Army lack I think due to which i would say that they cant defend Pakistan effectively...