Why PTI must form govt. In Punjab?

[Shareef_Aadmi]

I saw a comment from Hamza Shabaz reminding IK that Mian NS allowed him to form the govt in KPK after 2013. He is trying to say that IK should let PMLN form the govt in Punjab and let them loot the province same way they did after 2013.

Well now IK has a much bigger responsibility and that is for the entire Pakistan. As he has promised to be the ameen of tax payer money, it is more important for him to govern Punjab know the way PMLN looted the province.

In his (NS) limited wisdom, he was quite sure that PTI will not be able to govern KPK and will collapse in less than a year. The PTI govt not only proved everyone wrong included all political pundits, smart ass anchors and perhaps Kiyani and his cronies too. They came back with roaring 2/3 rd majority in a provincial govt where the history is quite opposite. The people of KPK not only brought PTI back, but with a thumping majority. They also sent the old stalwarts from ANP, JI, JUIF to their homes perhaps for good (InshaAllah).

Had NS had any slightest idea of how PTI will run the province, he would have never allowed KPK govt to go to PTI. Knowing how money he can spend on buying votes, Fazl ur Rahman, Asfandyar are always for sale, NS would have formed the govt. Politically would have been correct. But obviously NS does not look beyond his nose. If he has any political acumen, he would not be in this situation.

Now coming back to forming govt in Punjab and why PTI must do all legal steps to form the govt. Look at the party position. PTI gained almost 100 seats from 2013 and PMLN laost that many seats. Whatever they had won, mostly are not due to their work, majority of them are due to baradari and caste basis. On the other hand, PTI won the seats as public saw their work in KPK and they want similar or better work to be accomplished in Punjab. They deserve it as Punjab being the biggest province with shit load of money.

PTI has to form South Punjab province. They need the govt in Punjab to get that resolution pass. With PMLN govt, they will not let that resolution pass easily and create hurdles for PTI to accomplish its agenda.

I just penned down my thoughts. I am not a political animal, but to some extent have a common sense.

 

[LovePK-or-LeavePK]

True.

Without forming Punjab government there is no chance to make South Punjab Province.

As both provincial and National Assembly will have to approve creation of new province.

Therefore, PTI must do everything to form government in Punjab.

Give Khusroo Bakhtiaar task to win MPAs even from PMLN & independents.

 

[chandaa]

If PTI will not form GOVT in Punjab then they will not be able to bring real change in Punjab, as NOON league never want Police, health and education reforms.

 

[teknikel]

Their was differnt situation in KpK at that time Pti got 43, Fazal 18 and N 17 or 18 and less independts as compre to Punjab. Now in Punjab Pti 122 ans N 129. Q who was in alliance with Pti got 7 that means 129 and 129. Now its up to the independetns.

So Pti dont have an hurdel in forming gov in Punjab.

 

[gre8nation]

I think IK should let PML-N to form government in Punjab but same time keep pressure on them to follow pti policy of independent police , education and health . We need to reconcile for better pakistan and burry politics of revenge. That would be politics of change.

 

[scholar]

Because PTI get Majority .. simple is that

 

[Nightcrawl]

Nice article PTI needs Punjab that's the real battle ground.

 

[karachii]

I think IK should let PML-N to form government in Punjab but same time keep pressure on them to follow pti policy of independent police , education and health . We need to reconcile for better pakistan and burry politics of revenge. That would be politics of change.

What are you talking about, if independent join PTI then partywise PTI will be ahead and how can he let a minority party lead punjab????

please be sure independents are bound to join any party within 30 days, if they join PTI then its on PTI to govern.

 

[Liberal 000]

I think IK should let PML-N to form government in Punjab but same time keep pressure on them to follow pti policy of independent police , education and health . We need to reconcile for better pakistan and burry politics of revenge. That would be politics of change.

If PTI let PML form government in Punjab... It will be the end of PTI in Punjab

People voted for change if the change was destroyed PTI will be a history and with a most powerful province in PML N's hands How Imran will run central government?

 

[Liberal 000]

Never forget.... PTI tops in Punjab in vote count

PTI got more votes in Punjab than PML N.... people want PTI

 

[thinking]

Agreed..I am going far way..PTI can sit in opposition bench in Fed Gov..but they shod rule Panjab..If Panjab PTI run according to wish of Imran then next gen election PTI will clean sweep the Panjab election and automatically form Fed gov...PTI do all things to rule Panjab.. Independent and in PMLN..there are lots MPs easily support PTI..

 

[Liberal 000]

True.

Without forming Punjab government there is no chance to make South Punjab Province.

As both provincial and National Assembly will have to approve creation of new province.

Therefore, PTI must do everything to form government in Punjab.

Give Khusroo Bakhtiaar task to win MPAs even from PMLN & independents.

Forget about South Punjab province... It will polarise entire Pakistan. If South Punjab province was created it will led to hazara province and Karachi province and to the bifurcation of Baluchistan too.

Politics of Pakistan will change too.... South Punjab province will led to the rise of ethnic politics in Pakistan.

With 45 % Punjabi setlers and 45% Saraikis in South Punjab and 10 % other ethnicities (Mohajirs ,Balochs etc) ... The politics of South Punjab will be like Punjabi Vs Sairaki which would start impacting North Punjab too = rise in Punjabi Nationalism= Bad omen for Pakistan

If you want to create new provinces then turn every division into a province!

 

[Shareef_Aadmi]

I think IK should let PML-N to form government in Punjab but same time keep pressure on them to follow pti policy of independent police , education and health . We need to reconcile for better pakistan and burry politics of revenge. That would be politics of change.

Dear friend - knowing the animosity that exists between the two groups, it is far fetched to even think that PMLN and PTI can work together. PTI thinks that the main culprit for the ills of Pakistan is PMLN and PPP (which is not wrong). These two parties rule this country for over 40 years out of 70 years. On the other hand, PMLN rightly blame IK for NS to be in jail. NS ended up in jail because of his arrogance. Had he accepted IK demand of opening 4 constituencies, worst for him would have that he possibly would have lost those 4 seats. Still he had the majority in the parliament. But NS as I had said cannot see beyond his nose. Second chance came when PTI accepted to parliamentary investigation. NS should have accepted that and he would have definitely managed the issue or dragged it long enough for the next election. Plus PPP would have supported them underhand, because they are also in the same boat. But can you expect this from NS with such a low IQ?

Though I am a PTI supporter, even judging the situation from outside as a neutral observer, if I am the decision maker in PMLN, I will sit in opposition, let PTI struggle with the province as I (PMLN) has left the province in a shit hole. Will do constructive (means not destructive) opposition for next 4-5 years and prove that PMLN deserve another chance.

PMLN must stop crying foul as they lost the election fair and square. Their leader is in jail and the next few leaders are in line to be in Adiala (InshaAllah) for the crimes they have committed during their tenure.

 

[Shareef_Aadmi]

Forget about South Punjab province... It will polarise entire Pakistan. If South Punjab province was created it will led to hazara province and Karachi province and to the bifurcation of Baluchistan too.

Politics of Pakistan will change too.... South Punjab province will led to the rise of ethnic politics in Pakistan.

With 45 % Punjabi setlers and 45% Saraikis in South Punjab and 10 % other ethnicities (Mohajirs ,Balochs etc) ... The politics of South Punjab will be like Punjabi Vs Sairaki which would start impacting North Punjab too = rise in Punjabi Nationalism= Bad omen for Pakistan

If you want to create new provinces then turn every division into a province!

There shouldn't be any problem in making 10-15 small provinces. There are 15 plus provinces in switzerland. It will be easy to govern plus no one has the monoply in power by simply winning only Punjab

 

[remykhan]

It is utmost important for PTI to form government in Punjab, stop the thieves where they are.

 

[LovePK-or-LeavePK]

Forget about South Punjab province... It will polarise entire Pakistan. If South Punjab province was created it will led to hazara province and Karachi province and to the bifurcation of Baluchistan too.

Politics of Pakistan will change too.... South Punjab province will led to the rise of ethnic politics in Pakistan.

With 45 % Punjabi setlers and 45% Saraikis in South Punjab and 10 % other ethnicities (Mohajirs ,Balochs etc) ... The politics of South Punjab will be like Punjabi Vs Sairaki which would start impacting North Punjab too = rise in Punjabi Nationalism= Bad omen for Pakistan

If you want to create new provinces then turn every division into a province!

Polarization is everywhere and among every nation. But leader must do the right thing.

When obama passed that healthcare for all law, more htan 1/2 of US was against him. In Senate he passed with only 1 vote. But he did the right thing.

Abraham Lincoln ended slavery even when civil war started in their country. Even when ultimately he was killed because of that.

So, more provinces are necessary and must be formed everywhere required to deliver better services to the nation.

Don't let some nay-sayers fool you and make you all fearful about it.

 

[Liberal 000]

There shouldn't be any problem in making 10-15 small provinces. There are 15 plus provinces in switzerland. It will be easy to govern plus no one has the monoply in power by simply winning only Punjab

I said create provinces ... Create 30 plus provinces... But if you only want to create South Punjab province it would led to the rise in Punjabi nationalism.

 

[Liberal 000]

Polarization is everywhere and among every nation. But leader must do the right thing.

When obama passed that healthcare for all law, more htan 1/2 of US was against him. In Senate he passed with only 1 vote. But he did the right thing.

Abraham Lincoln ended slavery even when civil war started in their country. Even when ultimately he was killed because of that.

So, more provinces are necessary and must be formed everywhere required to deliver better services to the nation.

Don't let some nay-sayers fool you and make you all fearful about it.

I said create province but not on ethnic basis.... There must be 30 plus provinces in Pakistan

 

[LovePK-or-LeavePK]

I said create province but not on ethnic basis.... There must be 30 plus provinces in Pakistan

Totally agree with you on this. Best solution ever.

"If you want to create new provinces then turn every division into a province!"

 

[gre8nation]

Problem in Punjab is that though IK have strong vote bank but in Punjab more or less electable in PTI ,who previously were with PPP or PML-N, won their seats can switch anytime and will cause problem for IK. PML-N can use money and resources to buy them so better to let them rule as long as pti want and force them to push PTI policies in Punjab. I bet this would be better for Punjab as PML-N will try to come out of Lahore and will do work in other parts of province.