Why is PMLn so happy abt GEN Zaheer n five GEN retirement??? It is beyond logic

[rtabasum2]

Keep hearing from touts like Talat Hussain that GEN Zaheer is getting replaced in October n so is the other five GEN will be replaced. And he is happy about it as that would end all the political crisis in Pakistan.

Lets disect it analytically if GEN Zaheer is replaced by PMLn like minded GEN let say RAMDAY nephew

What can he do, can he end the Dharna, if he tells IK n TUQ will they pack up . answer Big no

Would it give PMLN a big green signal to use violence against dharna and Army will look the other way. Lets assume that they use violence against PTI/TUQ n kill a few dozen n manage to arrest IK n TUQ will that mean it will end the political crisis in the country. If they arrest IK it is again gonna make PTI more popular caz even the neutral people will side n sympathisize with IK that they were sitting there peacefully n Govt resorted to violence n arrested them.

All in all PMLN will learn late but they don't hv an escape until they agree to just demands of PTI n do reelection. Every which way they r going to lose

 

[Naj-khan]

They are happy because they wana replace him with justice ramday's nephew i guess

 

[arafay]

well some people are saying that nawaz wants ramday's relative in army as the next isi chief.

 

[rtabasum2]

They are happy because they wana replace him with justice ramday's nephew i guess

So what??? what can he do???The solution is political only they hv to sit on the table n sort out the mess there is no escape, people coming for dharna r not brought by ISI or Army thats wt these thick heads cannot comprehend.

 

[Sniper]

Bcoz g a n j o n ki soch limited hai.

 

[Naj-khan]

So what??? what can he do???The solution is political only they hv to sit on the table n sort out the mess there is no escape, people coming for dharna r not brought by ISI or Army thats wt these thick heads cannot comprehend.

Well as you said, their thick heads can't comprehend. Nawaz is trying to mirror as turkish prime minister who crushed army's power against civilian leaders but might end up like Morsi from egypt. in urdu we call it, Kawwa chala hans ki chaal, apni chaal bhi bhool gaya

 

[Nice2MU]

They are happy because they wana replace him with justice ramday's nephew i guess

جسٹس رمدے کا بانجھا یابھتیجا ہو مجھے نہیں لگتا اس سے اتنا فرق پڑیگا۔ اگر وہ اسکا ڈائریکٹر بن بھی گیا تو کیا کرلیگا؟ آخرکار آئی ایس آئی بھی جنرل راحیل کے انڈر آتی ہے۔

 

[araein]

They are happy because they wana replace him with justice ramday's nephew i guess

well some people are saying that nawaz wants ramday's relative in army as the next isi chief.

So what??? what can he do???The solution is political only they hv to sit on the table n sort out the mess there is no escape, people coming for dharna r not brought by ISI or Army thats wt these thick heads cannot comprehend.

Bcoz g a n j o n ki soch limited hai.

What's the name of Ramdey nephew? I don't know...

 

[rtabasum2]

What's the name of Ramdey nephew? I don't know...

Lt Gen Javaid Iqbal Ramday

 

[rtabasum2]

جسٹس رمدے کا بانجھا یابھتیجا ہو مجھے نہیں لگتا اس سے اتنا فرق پڑیگا۔ اگر وہ اسکا ڈائریکٹر بن بھی گیا تو کیا کرلیگا؟ آخرکار آئی ایس آئی بھی جنرل راحیل کے انڈر آتی ہے۔

Even If Gen Raheel is against IK or PTI wt can he do?? they cannot put a popular leader under arrest or use violence caz that is going to make IK even more popular, PMLn in their dumbness r strengthening PTI cause day by day

 

[zebust]

yaar koi bhi ISI chief ban jaye Patwaari hamesha aesay hi rotay rahay gain..... ku keh IK ki public support genuine hai, fabricated nahi hai..... yahan es forum pey saray IK k supporter apnay aap ko hi dekh len... aap sab main kitnay easy hain jinko ISI ney IK ka supporter banwaya hai....

- mein aur meray 90% real life dost or un sab k 90% dost sab IK ko support krtay hain.
- meri facebook k 90% log IK k supporter hain.
- mera aik bhai jo keh forces main hai, woh or us k bohat saray collegue IK ko supporter hain...
- mera dosra bhai jo doctor hai islamabad main, woh or us k doctors dost/collegue IK ko support krtay hain (un k dharnay main contnusoly jatay hain)
- mera cousin doctor hai lahore main woh or us k dost IK k supporter
- mera chota bhai university main parhta hai, woh or us k class fellow IK ko support krtay hain.


itni public support ISI kisi ko nahi dilaa sakti.... ISI may be helpful in manipulating election result but it cannot generate such a massive public support for someone.

I think, if ISI was actually supporting IK behnind the scences, He would have been PM by now.

 

[jason]

So what??? what can he do???The solution is political only they hv to sit on the table n sort out the mess there is no escape, people coming for dharna r not brought by ISI or Army thats wt these thick heads cannot comprehend.

person matters what do you think all the cases of rigging were investigated by PTI some were disclosed.

 

[MunchyMike]

Noora League was created and set by ISI and Army that is why they think that
other parties are also funded by ISI. They used to blame Gen Pasha for big
jalsa of PTI and now look with suspicion at Gen Zaheer. Let them there own
Gen Ramday but it will make no difference to PTI.

Ek Qaum Ek Awaz! Go Nawaz Go Nawaz!

 

[arafay]

the point is even ziauddin butt couldnt save nawaz from musharraf. so really nawaz sharif should has 2 options
a) agree to investigate the 30-40 constituencies
b) dissolve assemblies and resign after calling for reelections

(a) indirectly leads to (b) but it will buy the some time to maybe distribute some laptops and build few more roads etc. However the investigations will expose nawaz mafia and its ranks in judiciary once and for all resulting in irreparable damage. pmln will forever be regarded as the party who came into power through rigging and lose moral authority even if they win an election fairly in the future.

 

[Nice2MU]

Even If Gen Raheel is against IK or PTI wt can he do?? they cannot put a popular leader under arrest or use violence caz that is going to make IK even more popular, PMLn in their dumbness r strengthening PTI cause day by day

میں یہ نہیں کہہ رہا ۔ میرا مطلب تھا کہ جرنل راحیل کے انڈر ہوتے ہوئے آئی ایس آئی زیادہ مستیاں نہیں کر سکتی۔

 

[Athra]

طلحت کا کیا جاتا ہے یہ سب کہنے میں بلکے اس کو نورے سے ویلڈن کی تھپکی ملنی ہے فوج اور آئ ایس آئ مظبوط ادارے ہیں جہاں ایک دو افراد کے آنے جانے سے کوئی فرق نہی پڑتا

 

[deathchallenger]

Who told you that PML-N/present government is happy to see them go? Please quote any official with reference..!! Thanks

 

[Raaz]

So what??? what can he do???The solution is political only they hv to sit on the table n sort out the mess there is no escape, people coming for dharna r not brought by ISI or Army thats wt these thick heads cannot comprehend.

Sorry for pushing wrong button. I was using iPhone and it clicked dislike rather than like.

It was excellent analysis.
U r right that now people could not be handled with power.

But if army will use the power or allow NS to use power , it will be anarchy in the country and the country will shut down.

 

[Raaz]

میں یہ نہیں کہہ رہا ۔ میرا مطلب تھا کہ جرنل راحیل کے انڈر ہوتے ہوئے آئی ایس آئی زیادہ مستیاں نہیں کر سکتی۔

Actually army is more united than noora opposition.

No army gen will support Nawaz , because it is their unanimous decision that no more Nawaz. Otherwise ISIS is going to reach Pakistan very soon

 

[barca]

Lt Gen Javaid Iqbal Ramday

ماسی تیرے سارے تجزیے غلط ہو رہے ہیں
تم تو کہتی تھی یہ پانچوں کور کمانڈر ظہیر اسلام کے ساتھ مل کر
حکومت کے ساتھ جنرل راحیل شریف کو بھی الٹ دے گے ؟