Why do people protest on Mumtaz Qadri shrine when tax payer is funding Z.A.Bhutto anniversaries ,

shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
Why are we criticizing shrine for Mumtaz Qadri when we officially allow and officially spend from exchequer on another convicted murderer Bhutto senior.

Bhutto senior had a machinery to kill called FSF and even in 1977 agitation according to his own attorney general , 3000 people were killed in that rioting by his orders direct or indirect.

In Mumtaz qadri case SC should have asked if he heard any blasphemous remarks by Taseer ? it probably did not .

We even have the dirty name imposed on PIMS as the firm of zulfiqar Ali bhutto shaheed medical university , what an insult of supreme court and law .



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For a city of 1.6 million people, Islamabad has 827 mosques, some of which come with madrassahs and shrines of a varying degree of religious and political importance. Islamabad the beautiful is getting a new addition to this collection the grave-turned-shrine of Mumtaz Qadri, the man who brutally gunned down then Punjab Governor Salmaan Taseer in 2011.

In the early hours of the morning I am headed to Bhara Kahu, a small town on the outskirts of Islamabad which is Qadris ancestral village.
Driving up through Bhara Kahu, the road is dusty and disheveled. Approximately 25 minutes from Kohsar Market, where Taseer was tragically gunned down, there is an alarming array of pro-Qadri slogans etched onto walls of this serene locality. A sharp left turn off the main road takes you straight to the compound where the killer is buried.

Despite being under-construction, it is occupied even at 9AM on a Saturday by at least a dozen men. The attendees appear relaxed, perched next to his rose petal-covered grave. There is a shop outside the shrine that sells flowers and flaunts a meek collection of photographs of the assassin. At the counter in the shop, lies a note. It reads, Donate tee iron, bricks, cement, grinded stone or cash and earn yourself a place in the eternal heaven.

On the first day after his funeral, Rs80 million came in the form of donations


Qadris own house is not far from the shrine. Quite often, his son makes an appearance and sings naats, says Bilal, a by-stander at the shop. His reverence is disturbing.
Adorned in rose petals, the assassins grave is a step lower than the cement structure being erected around it.
To pray at his grave is a guaranteed way to have it answered, for Qadri has earned a place at the side of the Prophet (PBUH) through his sacrifice, he added, as we walked through the courtyard into the shrine.

Bilals belief is linked to the miracle of intercession granted to saints (awliya) in the popular imagination of the subcontinent. It is what makes going to their mausoleums (ziyarat) such a widespread phenomenon.
Conceived by his father and other close relatives, the 'Mumtaz Qadri Shaheed Foundation' supervises the construction of the shrine, which is still in its infancy. It is said that on the first day after his funeral, Rs80 million came in the form of donations, with a steady stream continuing since. Visitors who give donations at the desk beside the shrine, where the elders are seated, are given a coloured receipt to keep for record.

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Memorabilia from the 'shrine'.
It is chilling; the sense that Qadris shrine is becoming more than a place of burial to some. That it is believed to be a haven for those who subscribe to the ideology that lead to the governors murder.
It has hardly been a year since his execution yet the process of his canonisation is utterly complete. While the outcry against his trial and execution and the subsequent construction of this shrine might bewilder some of us, in the hearts and minds of his sympathisers Qadris saintly status is beyond question.

Mehmood Khan, indistinguishably plain in attire, is one of dozens who had come to pay their respect. He proudly claims, I was lucky to be standing in the first row of the [Qadri's] funeral, as cars had blocked the roads for miles around. I even have a jar of dirt from his grave, which I keep safe in my house.

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Mumtaz Qadri's grave.
It gets much busier towards evening, when people who come from places like Faisalabad or Gujranwala arrive, Mehmood adds.
Already, the stories circulating around the shrine are acquiring an air of myth. The legacy of Qadri, a man who was buried a convicted murderer, will survive. As things stand, it will get more deeply entrenched in the cultural kaleidoscope that is Pakistan. It is a mirror to a dark reality; a sign of the direction society can choose despite the law of the land.


http://www.dawn.com/news/1302289/mumtaz-qadris-shrine-in-memory-of-salmaan-taseers-assassin
 
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SachGoee

Senator (1k+ posts)
Mumtaz Qadri was a dishonest government servant. Who did not know how to honestly do his duties. His duty was to protect and shield the official with whom he was on duty.

1. Salman Taseer shaheed was not a blasphemer. He did not commit any blasphemy.

2. There is no worldly punishment of two acts Apostasy and Blasphemy. Allah has taken these two subjects in his own hands. In Islam there is no punishment for these acts.


3. Mumtaz Qadri was an evil man. He was a sinner, murderer and a hardcore terrorist who was duly hanged for killing a human being whom he was supposed to protect.


4. Mumtaz Qadri Islam aor Islami tashakkhuss per Siahh dhabba hai. Aesay loug Islam ko apne qabeeh ghattiya amam dehshatgardi intehapasandi se burbaaf kertay hein.
 

SharpAsKnife

Minister (2k+ posts)
یہ عوام تو ٢٤ لاکھ کے کتے بھی خرید کر دے رہے ہیں. قاتل اعلا کا ٣.٥ ارب کا ہیلی کاپٹر بھی، کلفی ٹھنڈی کرنے کے لئے بس بھی، نہاری اور پاۓ گرم رکھنے کے لیے جہاز بھی، رایوند محل کے اخراجات بھی. چاہے اس عوام کے پاس خود کھانے کے لئے پیسہ نہ ہو مگر مادر ذات سیاستدانوں کی سہولیات کا خرچہ بھی تو عوام ہی اٹھاتی ہے اور پھر کچھ پارٹ ٹائم کتے آکر سوال ایسے کرتے ہیں جیسے اپنا پچواڑا گنگا سے دھو کر پاک صاف ہو کر آے ہیں
 

uturninqlab

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
​بھٹو کا عدالتی قتل ہوا تھا ، ذلیل ضیاء کے ہاتھوں ، اس منافق کے ہاتھوں جس نے ملک کی تباہی کی اصل بنیاد رکھی تھی ،فرقہ واریت ، دہشت گردی ،انتہا پسندی ،منشیات اور اسلحہ کا سیلاب اسی کا کارنامہ ہیں ، آج سے چند سال قبل دہشت گردی کا جوان پودا لہلہا رہا تھا اس کا 100 فی صد کریڈٹ ضیاء مردود کو جاتا ہے۔
 

Cobra

MPA (400+ posts)
Qadiani Hate Him Since He Took Down Their Mouthpiece. Just Like Jews, They Also Want A Qadiani State (Within Pakistan). A lot Of Money Been Spent On This Long Term Project.
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
????? ?? ?????? ??? ??? ??? ? ???? ???? ?? ?????? ? ?? ????? ?? ?????? ?? ?? ??? ?? ????? ?? ??? ????? ???? ??? ????? ????? ? ???? ???? ?????? ????? ??????? ??? ????? ?? ????? ??? ?? ??????? ??? ? ?? ?? ??? ??? ??? ???? ???? ?? ???? ???? ????? ??? ??? ?? ?? 100 ?? ?? ????? ???? ????? ?? ???? ???

 

SachGoee

Senator (1k+ posts)
Qadiani Hate Him Since He Took Down Their Mouthpiece. Just Like Jews, They Also Want A Qadiani State (Within Pakistan). A lot Of Money Been Spent On This Long Term Project.

haan yehi asal baat hai


Bichaaray Bhutto sahib. Ache leader thay. Awaami leader. Asli votoun se aaey thay. Achi khidmatt shuru ki thee. Per bicharay behak gaey. Samjhay k Allah aor Allah k baad awaam nai balkay Mullah (Ulema e Soo) meray iqtadaar ko tawalatt dein ge aor aor phir Zameen k khudaoun k saath khud bhee zameeni khuda bunn k shirkatdaari ki Khudaee faisla kerne ki.

Phir kya hua ?


72 firqay aik taraf huay aor mulk ka haakim bhutto tha. Aor kaha ye kou 73waan kick out. Faisla zameeni khudaoun ka.


Hadith sachi saabit ker k unki pyaas na bhujji. Kyun k ab Allah rabbul izzat ko jalaal aagaya.


Phir mosoof ne kisi insaan ko bulaya secret meeting aor andar se quran le aaey mosoof aor kaha gawahi deta hun aap musalmaan hein. Meray pe saudi arab aor mullah ka bohat pressure tha koi chaara nai tha. Agle lamhay khouff tha aor roubb zahir kiya munn mein jhaag. Aor kaha agar tum loug iss faislay k khilaaf roads pe aaey ehtajaaj kiya tou mein tumharay haath mein kashkol pakrha dun ga. Mehmaan ne kalima e shahadatt ka vird kiya aor kaha Nabi kareem pbuh ka farmaan hai k wattan ki mohabbat eemaan ka juzz hai aor mulk k qawaneen ka ehtaraam farz hai siwaey unn qawaneen k jin se izzat ko khatra ya Allah k faraiz ibaadat baja laanay mein rukawatt ho. So hum tou roads pe nai aaein ge kyun k aesa qadam khilaaf e shareeat hoga. Per kashkol ? Hamaray haath ? Mein tou tumharay qadmoun tallay se zameen nikalti dekh raha hun iss faisla k baad.


Kuch saal he huay Bhutto sahib ki wafaat aik jhootay case pe hui jo sacha b hota tou b saza moutt nai banti thee. Per khuda ki taqdeer moutt aesay aaee k kadmoun tallay se zameen nikal gaee jo k uss Baaresh mehmaan k ilfaaz thay chand saal pehlay.


Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto ki Nasal mitt gaee ab aik mard hai iss nasal ka zinda jo k gheir shaadi shuda hai aor uska naam hai Zulfiqaar Junior.


Phir aik mosoof aaey aor kaha k ye cancer hai mein issay jerh se mitaa dun ga.ordinance laa k haddein he paar ker deen. Mubahellay ka challenge ker diya gaya aor kuch haftoun baad khabbar aaee k jo cancer mitaanay chalay thay Khuda ne unki khaak urhaa dee aor aik adadd Jabrahh mila wo bhee pata nai apna tha ya naheen.


Tumhein mitaanay ka zoumm le ker uthein hein jo khaak k bagolay
Khuda bana dega khaak unki keray ga ruswaa e aam kehna.


Bus Allah maaf keray. Khuda ki taqdeer se derna chaheeay. Allah mazeed nishaan e ibrat na bnaey. Aameen. Hidayat he behtar hai.
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Bichaaray Bhutto sahib. Ache leader thay. Awaami leader. Asli votoun se aaey thay. Achi khidmatt shuru ki thee. Per bicharay behak gaey. Samjhay k Allah aor Allah k baad awaam nai balkay Mullah (Ulema e Soo) meray iqtadaar ko tawalatt dein ge aor aor phir Zameen k khudaoun k saath khud bhee zameeni khuda bunn k shirkatdaari ki Khudaee faisla kerne ki.

Phir kya hua ?


72 firqay aik taraf huay aor mulk ka haakim bhutto tha. Aor kaha ye kou 73waan kick out. Faisla zameeni khudaoun ka.


Hadith sachi saabit ker k unki pyaas na bhujji. Kyun k ab Allah rabbul izzat ko jalaal aagaya.


Phir mosoof ne kisi insaan ko bulaya secret meeting aor andar se quran le aaey mosoof aor kaha gawahi deta hun aap musalmaan hein. Meray pe saudi arab aor mullah ka bohat pressure tha koi chaara nai tha. Agle lamhay khouff tha aor roubb zahir kiya munn mein jhaag. Aor kaha agar tum loug iss faislay k khilaaf roads pe aaey ehtajaaj kiya tou mein tumharay haath mein kashkol pakrha dun ga. Mehmaan ne kalima e shahadatt ka vird kiya aor kaha Nabi kareem pbuh ka farmaan hai k wattan ki mohabbat eemaan ka juzz hai aor mulk k qawaneen ka ehtaraam farz hai siwaey unn qawaneen k jin se izzat ko khatra ya Allah k faraiz ibaadat baja laanay mein rukawatt ho. So hum tou roads pe nai aaein ge kyun k aesa qadam khilaaf e shareeat hoga. Per kashkol ? Hamaray haath ? Mein tou tumharay qadmoun tallay se zameen nikalti dekh raha hun iss faisla k baad.


Kuch saal he huay Bhutto sahib ki wafaat aik jhootay case pe hui jo sacha b hota tou b saza moutt nai banti thee. Per khuda ki taqdeer moutt aesay aaee k kadmoun tallay se zameen nikal gaee jo k uss Baaresh mehmaan k ilfaaz thay chand saal pehlay.


Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto ki Nasal mitt gaee ab aik mard hai iss nasal ka zinda jo k gheir shaadi shuda hai aor uska naam hai Zulfiqaar Junior.


Phir aik mosoof aaey aor kaha k ye cancer hai mein issay jerh se mitaa dun ga.ordinance laa k haddein he paar ker deen. Mubahellay ka challenge ker diya gaya aor kuch haftoun baad khabbar aaee k jo cancer mitaanay chalay thay Khuda ne unki khaak urhaa dee aor aik adadd Jabrahh mila wo bhee pata nai apna tha ya naheen.


Tumhein mitaanay ka zoumm le ker uthein hein jo khaak k bagolay
Khuda bana dega khaak unki keray ga ruswaa e aam kehna.


Bus Allah maaf keray. Khuda ki taqdeer se derna chaheeay. Allah mazeed nishaan e ibrat na bnaey. Aameen. Hidayat he behtar hai.

Here we go again, beating the same dead horse, by the cultist one trick pony. Are you capable of one independent thought, formulating one clear sentence without you dragging your cultist agenda into it, acting as poor some victim, as some kind of redeemed sanctimonious A.hole ????
 

SachGoee

Senator (1k+ posts)
Here we go again, beating the same dead horse, by the cultist one trick pony. Are you capable of one independent thought, formulating one clear sentence without you dragging your cultist agenda into it, acting as poor some victim, as some kind of redeemed sanctimonious A.hole ????


Sorry if it gave you pain.

Your language is representing you. Keep going.
 

shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
Mumtaz Qadri was a dishonest government servant. Who did not know how to honestly do his duties. His duty was to protect and shield the official with whom he was on duty.

Yes there is a point here but if heard blasphemy on regular basis , this constitutes grave provocation by Taseer . Question should have been asked , did Taseer say any thing in private of such kind in the court ?

1. Salman Taseer shaheed was not a blasphemer. He did not commit any blasphemy.

Publically no , privately , this was not asked from anyone in the court or from witness .

2. There is no worldly punishment of two acts Apostasy and Blasphemy. Allah has taken these two subjects in his own hands. In Islam there is no punishment for these acts.

Incorrect , you need to read actual sacred texts and not rely on propaganda .

3. Mumtaz Qadri was an evil man. He was a sinner, murderer and a hardcore terrorist who was duly hanged for killing a human being whom he was supposed to protect.

I doubt the above statements , however his looks are a but in nature of psychologically worth investigating .

4. Mumtaz Qadri Islam aor Islami tashakkhuss per Siahh dhabba hai. Aesay loug Islam ko apne qabeeh ghattiya amam dehshatgardi intehapasandi se burbaaf kertay hein.

Question here is that was he alone , who really wanted to kill Taseer ? anyone whose post he was going to take by US command ? was it an individual act . Such murders by body guards were common in the past and even now .
 

SachGoee

Senator (1k+ posts)
Question here is that was he alone , who really wanted to kill Taseer ? anyone whose post he was going to take by US command ? was it an individual act . Such murders by body guards were common in the past and even now .


So what is your point dear brother ?
 

SachGoee

Senator (1k+ posts)
Barelwee musalmaan bhaee jo Mumtaz Qadri dehshatgard ko Ghaazi aor shaheed kehtay hein aor usko apna hero number 1 maantay hein unka khayaal hai k Salman Taseer sahib ne gustakhee ki. Jub k gustakhee ki he nai. Agar ki bhee hoti tou Islam mein gustakhee ki saza hai he nai. Pooray Quran mein nai hai. Kisi sahi hadith mein nai hai. Rasool e Pak ne har gustaakh ko maaf kiya aor khulafa ne bhee maaf kiya. Haan kuch gustaakh thay jinka aik jurm gustakhi tha jub k unhoun ne baghawatt bhee ki islami hakumat k khilaaf. Musalla baghawatt aor khoon bhee bahaya qatal bhee kiye. So unhein riasat e islami k khilaaf talibaani karwaeeoun, naqs e aama mein rakhna daalne aor maasoomoun k qatal kerne pe moutt ki saza di gaee jo k bilkul islami saza thee aor waqt ki zarurat thee. Iska matlub ye nai k saza qatal ya talibaani activities per khulafa ne nai di balkay gustakhee pe di.


Barelwee musalmaanoun se guzarish hai k Ahmed Raza Barelwee sahib se pehlay jo Ahl e Sunnat k Fuqaha aor Imam guzray hein unki raaey perh lein iss pe. Haqeeqat khul jaey gee.


Jub Allah ne murtadd aor gustaakh ki koi dunyawi saza nai rakhee aor iss maslay ko apne haath mein rakha tou wajah yei thee Allah ko pata tha k kesay mukhalfat mein ye sazaein aik dusray se duahmani mein istemaal honi hein. Iss liye Allah ne kaha k maaf kero, ignore kero aor aakhrat mein mein hisaab le lun ga.


Ghamdi sahih ko ye sunn lou. Quran o hadith k mutabiq sahi islamic raaey dey rahay hein. Wo bhee bicharay sach bol k phass gaey jaan ko khatra so hijrat ker gaey hein. Allah safe rakhay unhein jaali aashiqoun dehshatgardoun se Aameen.


 

Ali Khurram Tirmezi

Councller (250+ posts)
Ruthless murderer he was. I am not talking politics but he was the judge himself to commit this crime. He will go to hell but may god bless Pakistan with these stupid uneducated fanatic mullas. That would be the day Pakistan would be in peace and people of Pakistan would live as humans.
 

shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
The idea of Distributing sweet at court judgements is bogus : Revisiting Dawn news item about Qadri case

‘The court delivered half justice to my client’

Malik AsadPublished Mar 10, 2015 06:06am

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ISLAMABAD: Within minutes of the verdict, a celebratory sense enveloped the Islamabad High Court (IHC) premises where Mumtaz Qadri’s supporters distributed sweetmeats to anyone who was willing to share their joy.Their happiness was shared by those who defended Mumtaz Qadri in the court.

While the IHC upheld the murder case against Qadri for killing former governor Salman Taseer, his lawyers were happy the terrorism charges against Qadri had been dropped, thanks to their efforts.Know more: IHC upholds death sentence for Mumtaz Qadri

Mumtaz Qadri, who was employed to provide security to Taseer, killed the latter in January 2011 in Islamabad. He was convicted by the Anti Terrorism Court (ATC) in October the same year, under both section 7 of the Anti Terrorism Act (ATA) and under section 302 of Pakistan Penal Code (PPC) respectively.


With the terrorism charges dropped, glorifying Qadri will no longer be a crime



IHC division bench comprising Justice Noorul Haq N. Qureshi and Justice Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui set aside his conviction under section 7 of the ATA but upheld the death sentence under 302 of the PPC. This means that Qadri is guilty of murder but not terrorism.

Following the announcement of the verdict, Qadri’s lawyers gathered in the office of the president of Islamabad High Court Bar Association (IHCBA).They congratulated retired Justice Mian Nazir Ahmed, the senior counsel of Mumtaz Qadri, and distributed sweetmeats among the lawyers.

Some of them even made impromptu, fiery speeches and chanted slogans in favour of Taseer’s killer.After witnessing these celebrations for a short while, IHCBA President Raja Aleem Khan Abbasi, who has strong affiliation with the Pakistan People’s Party (PPP), left the room, saying that he was due in a case.

Once the excitement died down, Qadri’s counsel Justice Nazir told Dawn: “The glass is half full and not half empty; the court has delivered half justice to my client.”

Explaining the significance of the judgment, he said that “it will no longer be an offence to praise him (Qadri) as the terrorism charges have been dropped,” adding that under the Protection of Pakistan Act (PPA), “glorifying a terrorism convict has became a cognizable offence”.

But now that Qadri was no longer a ‘terrorist’, glorifying him was no longer a crime, he added.However, this is not all the verdict has done. There was also some talk that Qadri’s team could appeal that his trial had been an unfair one – the trial had been carried out in an Anti-Terrorism Court although now Qadri is no longer charged with a terrorist act.

When Justice Nazir was asked if Qadri’s lawyer would request the court to remand this case back to the sessions court for retrial as the ATC cannot try ordinary murder cases, he replied: “If the case returns to the trial stage, it may be transferred to the military court.”

He said that the future strategy would be evolved after consulting other lawyers and Qadri’s father.“Everyone will be involved in deciding whether or not we will go to the Supreme Court to appeal the fact that his conviction and death sentence (for murder) had been upheld,” he said.

The government lawyers, on the other hand, were tight lipped and would not explain whether or not the state would appeal the decision.Advocate General Islamabad Mian Abdul Rauf said he could not comment when asked if the government was challenging the order or not.

A senior law officer of the federal government, on the condition of anonymity, predicted that there were few chances of the government going into appeal.“It will be difficult for the government to challenge the decision as lawyers were reluctant to appear in this case, on behalf of the government,” he said.

Legal experts pointed out another loophole that will work to Qadri’s advantage with this judgment.
Raja Amir Abbas Hassan, an advocate of the Supreme Court, said that a conviction under only the PPC (and not the terrorism law) meant that Qadri was now guilty of a compoundable offence.

Those guilty of a compoundable offence can try and opt for an out-of-court settlement, which is not possible if someone is convicted at the ATA. Advocate Hassan pointed out that Qadri could go free if the Taseer family pardoned him.Heavy security was deployed in and around the IHC building in preparation for the verdict’s announcement. Special contingents of anti-riot police were deployed at the entrances of the IHC. Entry into the courtroom where the verdict was announced was also restricted. A deputy registrar and an assistant registrar were also present inside the courtroom to monitor the situation inside the court.

Published in Dawn, March 10th, 2015

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Humi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Stop funding all anniversaries...period... people are starving, have no water, no food, no electricity... anniversaries don't make anyone's lives better. use that money on people instead.
 

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