Why are we actually killing our immune system -- these guys make sense

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Their facts and arguments are so wrong...

Catching viruses does not always make you stronger. If you catch HIV you dont get stronger, you get aids. Same with Ebola, lyme disease etc. With Covid19 many people who get it wont get stronger, they will die.
 

RajaRawal111

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Their facts and arguments are so wrong...

Catching viruses does not always make you stronger. If you catch HIV you dont get stronger, you get aids. Same with Ebola, lyme disease etc. With Covid19 many people who get it wont get stronger, they will die.
You are right in terms of an umbrella statement.
But Where did Spanish flu go. Why it did not annihilate whole mankind. Because once recovered transmitted subdued strains. Now we may have it every year. But we already have defense in our body.
Remember we are not talking on individuals. The emerging statistical picture are telling different story which is not so scary.
 

RajaRawal111

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
یہ ڈاکٹرز جو کچھ کہہ رہے ہیں ..میں بہت دنوں سے یہ ہی بات کہہ رہی ہوں ..لیکن میری سنتا کون ہے
چلو کوئی بات نہیں بہن جی --- وہ ڈاکٹر لگے ہوۓ ہیں
?اور ساتھ فر فر انگریزی بول رہے ہیں
 

rtabasum2

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
These 50 minutes may change your thoughts folks.
There is lots of info that makes sense.

What we are doing --- is the building data telling us a different story.
Anyway in Pakistan there never was a lockdown.....it was more staged to get Aid from IMF n other donors and now things are back to normal...........pray for us stuck in West
 

rtabasum2

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
These 50 minutes may change your thoughts folks.
There is lots of info that makes sense.

What we are doing --- is the building data telling us a different story.
Let us argue for the benefits of Covid 19...........less crime rate, oil prices at rock bottom plus debt servicing on hold for an year........win win for Pakistan........plus they gonna milk this cow more and more by begging......and your favorite Imran will have 3 more years to rule.........
 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Spanish flu did annihilate whole mankind. It killed 50 million people worldwide in less than 2 years.

You are right in terms of an umbrella statement.
But Where did Spanish flu go. Why it did not annihilate whole mankind. Because once recovered transmitted subdued strains. Now we may have it every year. But we already have defense in our body.
Remember we are not talking on individuals. The emerging statistical picture are telling different story which is not so scary.
 

khalid100

Minister (2k+ posts)
You are right in terms of an umbrella statement.
But Where did Spanish flu go. Why it did not annihilate whole mankind. Because once recovered transmitted subdued strains. Now we may have it every year. But we already have defense in our body.
Remember we are not talking on individuals. The emerging statistical picture are telling different story which is not so scary.
They have some valid points but in this day and age so much confusion as whom to believe and whom not to. I would personally like to see an educated debate between experts of the field who are pro quarantine and against like the gentlemen above. Mostly we are seeing media are one sided press conferences from both schools of thoughts.
Don't have enough energy to argue more at this stage but just googled as how COVID19 is different than previous pandemics I see a valid point there too and I am more confused than ever and as clear as mud in my thoughts ?
“COVID-19 differs from SARS in terms of infectious period, transmissibility, clinical severity, and extent of community spread. Even if traditional public health measures are not able to fully contain the outbreak of COVID-19, they will still be effective in reducing peak incidence and global deaths.”

 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
It wiped out around 3% of world population.

That's equal to 210 million people dying in 18 months in 2020-2021. If something like the Spanish flu happens again it will be a crisis like we have never seen before... The system will completely collapse.


No it did not annihilate mankind. We are talkung so probably existing.
 

RajaRawal111

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
They have some valid points but in this day and age so much confusion as whom to believe and whom not to. I would personally like to see an educated debate between experts of the field who are pro quarantine and against like the gentlemen above. Mostly we are seeing media are one sided press conferences from both schools of thoughts.
Don't have enough energy to argue more at this stage but just googled as how COVID19 is different than previous pandemics I see a valid point there too and I am more confused than ever and as clear as mud in my thoughts ?
“COVID-19 differs from SARS in terms of infectious period, transmissibility, clinical severity, and extent of community spread. Even if traditional public health measures are not able to fully contain the outbreak of COVID-19, they will still be effective in reducing peak incidence and global deaths.”

I totally agree with you. It may be too early to jump to any solid conclusion. The hot spots like new York, Italy and Spain are really scary. We cannot just ignore them.
But one thing is true that mortality rate is not going to depend on testing stats. I person sick enough that he dies with this disease will eventually end up in hospital and become part to stats.
And this number is reducing as the number of tests are increasing. So it does makes some sense that lethal-ness of virus may be a bit hyped.