What's happening in Iran? How did the active patients count went down so low?

Aamir Ayoub

Senator (1k+ posts)
How the active cases are so low for Iran?


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here is the uk chart

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HIDDEN

Minister (2k+ posts)
I believe US and some European countries are lying about the number of deaths.

It seems to me that a plan is in the final stages to implicate China in local courts and then seize Chinese investments in these countries through court orders. China has invested hundreds of billions of dollars in these countries and there was a risk of Chinese withdrawal of investments when trade war started.

The United States and its allies in the EU have got a perfect opportunity in the form of this pandemic.

If you guys notice, Germany's death rate is more or less the same as the death rate of China and other East Asian countries. Germany had been working on strengthening its ties with China in the recent past. Germany can be easily compared with any other "supposedly" hard hit EU country. It has higher life expectancy just like Italy or France or the UK. the healthcare systems of all these countries are also comparable. Then how come Germany has very low fatalities while Italy, France, Spain and UK have high death rates.

Something is not right I am sure.
 

Dream Seller

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Check the graph the cases there are constantly declining from March 30.

We should be more worried about the US, 39,000 new cases on April 24 alone.
It was bound to happen due to these khota khors of amreeka went on protests in different states in large numbers and with their guns, like guns will be used as ventilators when they get sick. Idiots
 

Dream Seller

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I believe US and some European countries are lying about the number of deaths.

It seems to me that a plan is in the final stages to implicate China in local courts and then seize Chinese investments in these countries through court orders. China has invested hundreds of billions of dollars in these countries and there was a risk of Chinese withdrawal of investments when trade war started.

The United States and its allies in the EU have got a perfect opportunity in the form of this pandemic.

If you guys notice, Germany's death rate is more or less the same as the death rate of China and other East Asian countries. Germany had been working on strengthening its ties with China in the recent past. Germany can be easily compared with any other "supposedly" hard hit EU country. It has higher life expectancy just like Italy or France or the UK. the healthcare systems of all these countries are also comparable. Then how come Germany has very low fatalities while Italy, France, Spain and UK have high death rates.

Something is not right I am sure.
There’s no lie about desi deaths in NY as people are interconnected in communities and there’re many death in Pakistani and Bengali communities. May Allah keep everyone safe and healthy.
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
I believe US and some European countries are lying about the number of deaths.

It seems to me that a plan is in the final stages to implicate China in local courts and then seize Chinese investments in these countries through court orders. China has invested hundreds of billions of dollars in these countries and there was a risk of Chinese withdrawal of investments when trade war started.

The United States and its allies in the EU have got a perfect opportunity in the form of this pandemic.

If you guys notice, Germany's death rate is more or less the same as the death rate of China and other East Asian countries. Germany had been working on strengthening its ties with China in the recent past. Germany can be easily compared with any other "supposedly" hard hit EU country. It has higher life expectancy just like Italy or France or the UK. the healthcare systems of all these countries are also comparable. Then how come Germany has very low fatalities while Italy, France, Spain and UK have high death rates.

Something is not right I am sure.
Is it same to say that it is America bound Virus ? ....... I don't think the death numbers are manipulated. Lot more American are dead because it is wide spread and it was spreading since early January . I don't think Chinese can be implicated for any compensation . American Hospitals were not ready to take that surge at once, they are still struggling with it.
 

HIDDEN

Minister (2k+ posts)
There’s no lie about desi deaths in NY as people are interconnected in communities and there’re many death in Pakistani and Bengali communities. May Allah keep everyone safe and healthy.
Is it same to say that it is America bound Virus ? ....... I don't think the death numbers are manipulated. Lot more American are dead because it is wide spread and it was spreading since early January . I don't think Chinese can be implicated for any compensation . American Hospitals were not ready to take that surge at once, they are still struggling with it.
I am not saying that there are no deaths, but I am questioning the numbers.

I am still unable to understand the numbers of Germany and few other European countries vs the United States and her all weather friends.

The lawsuit of some trillions of dollars has already been filed.

Number of fatalities in interconnected South Asian communities can't confirm the total number of deaths.
 

PIND-WALA

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I am not saying that there are no deaths, but I am questioning the numbers.

I am still unable to understand the numbers of Germany and few other European countries vs the United States and her all weather friends.

The lawsuit of some trillions of dollars has already been filed.

Number of fatalities in interconnected South Asian communities can't confirm the total number of deaths.
I think there is some merit in theory that west will try to grab Chinese assets. I am in Canada and I know Chinese have been buying almost anything factories, house gas stations etc etc. Although west can grab these by force but I am not sure how China would react. Most if the world would see it as unfair. On the other most of west/ America success/ riches have always come from stealing. Whether it is from Red Indians or colonies.
 

HIDDEN

Minister (2k+ posts)
I think there is some merit in theory that west will try to grab Chinese assets. I am in Canada and I know Chinese have been buying almost anything factories, house gas stations etc etc. Although west can grab these by force but I am not sure how China would react. Most if the world would see it as unfair. On the other most of west/ America success/ riches have always come from stealing. Whether it is from Red Indians or colonies.
They will only target Chinese government investments, which are also huge. And to do that, they don't even have to move any international court. Local court verdicts will be effective even if China doesn't agree with the outcome.

If we follow the news, China has already started her preparations in SCS. China will consider it a war and will try to take what she claims, ignoring all the international pressures.

Global positioning of the armed forces of the US tells us that the US is freeing up its soldiers from many less important regions. One example is Afghanistan. The US didn't even prolong its dispute against Iran earlier this year.

I hope I am wrong, but current affairs do have all the hallmarks of a situation leading to a world war. The US was losing its global position against China quite fast.
 

Masud Javed

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I believe US and some European countries are lying about the number of deaths.

It seems to me that a plan is in the final stages to implicate China in local courts and then seize Chinese investments in these countries through court orders. China has invested hundreds of billions of dollars in these countries and there was a risk of Chinese withdrawal of investments when trade war started.

The United States and its allies in the EU have got a perfect opportunity in the form of this pandemic.

If you guys notice, Germany's death rate is more or less the same as the death rate of China and other East Asian countries. Germany had been working on strengthening its ties with China in the recent past. Germany can be easily compared with any other "supposedly" hard hit EU country. It has higher life expectancy just like Italy or France or the UK. the healthcare systems of all these countries are also comparable. Then how come Germany has very low fatalities while Italy, France, Spain and UK have high death rates.

Something is not right I am sure.
interesting, very interesting
 

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
I believe US and some European countries are lying about the number of deaths.

It seems to me that a plan is in the final stages to implicate China in local courts and then seize Chinese investments in these countries through court orders. China has invested hundreds of billions of dollars in these countries and there was a risk of Chinese withdrawal of investments when trade war started.

The United States and its allies in the EU have got a perfect opportunity in the form of this pandemic.

If you guys notice, Germany's death rate is more or less the same as the death rate of China and other East Asian countries. Germany had been working on strengthening its ties with China in the recent past. Germany can be easily compared with any other "supposedly" hard hit EU country. It has higher life expectancy just like Italy or France or the UK. the healthcare systems of all these countries are also comparable. Then how come Germany has very low fatalities while Italy, France, Spain and UK have high death rates.

Something is not right I am sure.
What nonsense man, these are worthless and their verdicts toothless. Just a ruse to divert attention from Trumps mismanagement of the crisis, just keep this in mind, this is an election year and trump really has nothing to show for it. Covid19 came as a blessing for Trump but he managed to botch that up too!. US has been trying to sue Saudi over 9/11 for 20 years now. Nothing has happened.

I dunno on what basis you lot give credence to such fairy tale-esque conspiracy theories, this is a global pandemic, no one has benefited from it, quite the opposite in fact, economies across the globe have tanked and billions have been lost. Industries over which literally numerous wars have been fought, leaders have been assassinated, govts overthrown have gone into the gutter.

For a second stop watching baseless Youtube videos uploaded by unknown idiots. Use your god given common sense and critical thinking skills for a change. I know as Pakistanis conspiracy theories is our national sport but this time round be smart about it.
 

shujauddin

Minister (2k+ posts)
Iran, china , Pakistan etc. report fake numbers. or may be doesn't have the capacity to test n report like in the western countries
 

HIDDEN

Minister (2k+ posts)
What nonsense man
Oh FFS! Not you too. Come on man, you seem smarter than this.
Where did you learn to talk like this? Do you have anger management issues?

This is the reason I don't want to comment on siasat.pk. People like you just start abusing others and try to force their own pov on others.

By the way, I work in a foriegn governments healthcare and many doctors are questioning the number of deaths in few countries.
 

HIDDEN

Minister (2k+ posts)
Iran, china , Pakistan etc. report fake numbers. or may be doesn't have the capacity to test n report like in the western countries
Germany, Australia and some other European countries are also fudging numbers, right?

See there are very few countries which are reporting abnormally high number of deaths. It doesn't mean only those few are reporting accurately and others are fudging.

Not enough testing is an issue, but the US started showing the deaths very early and when her Healthcare system wasn't overloaded.
 

AhmadSaleem264

Minister (2k+ posts)
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I believe US and some European countries are lying about the number of deaths.

It seems to me that a plan is in the final stages to implicate China in local courts and then seize Chinese investments in these countries through court orders. China has invested hundreds of billions of dollars in these countries and there was a risk of Chinese withdrawal of investments when trade war started.

The United States and its allies in the EU have got a perfect opportunity in the form of this pandemic.

If you guys notice, Germany's death rate is more or less the same as the death rate of China and other East Asian countries. Germany had been working on strengthening its ties with China in the recent past. Germany can be easily compared with any other "supposedly" hard hit EU country. It has higher life expectancy just like Italy or France or the UK. the healthcare systems of all these countries are also comparable. Then how come Germany has very low fatalities while Italy, France, Spain and UK have high death rates.

Something is not right I am sure.
China is a world manufacturing hub. West has more investment in china than the other way around if usa or europe seize chinese investments then china will also do the same in its own country and in the end it will be the west who will loose the money.
 

shujauddin

Minister (2k+ posts)
you could easily say this for pakistan as well
Germany, Australia and some other European countries are also fudging numbers, right?

See there are very few countries which are reporting abnormally high number of deaths. It doesn't mean only those few are reporting accurately and others are fudging.

Not enough testing is an issue, but the US started showing the deaths very early and when her Healthcare system wasn't overloaded.
you could easily say this for pakistan as well

Your saying that Germany, Australia etc are fudging numbers is a conspiracy theory. Therefore does not have much worth
Pakistan & India on the other hand are third world countries and their low reported numbers cannot be trusted as both India and Pakistan do not have a central patient registry system. How would u track the patients when you have street side clinics and hospitals? have u not been in Pakistan or r u playing dumb?
 
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