What are sectarian Posts?

Waseem and Mods/Admins

I would suggest that instead of the long code of conduct which nobody reads, it will be beneficial if you can define the sectarian posts.

If I post something on Syria such as killing of children, it is sectarianism. Why??????

Sunni Ulama are mocked then it is alright if something is posted about the honorary scholars wearing black robes then it is sectarianism.

Lets have a uniform code of conduct and I will be the first to honor it.
 

hans

Banned
Sir jeeee.... relax.

Try to stay netural. If you can do that .. you are above all issue. I do understnd your pain, for Muslim ummah.
But what can we do, most of the Muslim killings is done by Salfist, not by Sunni or Shia.

Hate comes not through Shia Sunni issue, its Salfist that run this show.
 
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Ahud1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Jis baat sey bhi kisi k liey nafrat ka pehlu nikley us baat ko avoid kiya jana chahiey. mujhey lagta hey k hum sub ko pata hey k kon kon sey points hien jis sey firqa wariyut ka mahole pieda huta hey hum sub ko un pehlowon sey ijtinab kerna kerna chahiey.
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
سونے پر سہاگہ اصحاب رسول کے متعلق کوئی تھریڈ بنایا جائے تو رنگ میں بھنگ ڈالنے والوں کو روکنے کی بجائے اسے بھی فرقہ پرستی کے کھاتے میں ڈال دیا جاتا ہے. کل ہی "کراچی والا" کے ایک تھریڈ کے ساتھ یہی سلوک کیا گیا تھا
 

zhohaq

Minister (2k+ posts)
Mehwish Ali endless crap from PRESS TV and her Bashar worship is allowed,
while any thing from any other perspective is either removed or merged with threads that are 4 months old.

The standards applied are not consistent as well. There is a clear bias.

Either allow a full debate or have zero tolerance. This selective policing isn't working.
 
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Researcher

MPA (400+ posts)
@Pakola Khi: Your recent thread has just been deleted for being a false propaganda report from propaganda militant web tv Ansar Allah. A lot of members asked for confirmation from any legitimate source.

For mehwish, and her propaganda posts, her words just get automatically get opposite reaction. For her, if she do reverse psychology that might help her cause.
 
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tariisb

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)


جب خود کو یہ ہی نہیں پتہ کہ ؟ فرقہ پرستی کیا ہے تو ، پھر مذہبی منافرت پھیلانے کی کیا ضرورت ؟
ہر شخص کو پتہ ہے ، کیا درست اور کیا غلط ، اب یہاں "معصومیت" کا لبادہ اوڑھ کر سوالات کرنا ، صرف شرارت



شام میں دو متحارب گروہ ایک دوسسرے سے نبرد آزما ہیں ، ایک کی مدد ایران اور دوسرے کی مدد امریکہ ، اسرائیل ، اور مغربی ممالک کر رہے ہیں ، اس جاری جنگ میں سے ، جب زبردستی اسلام کی برآمدگی کی جاۓ ، جہاد جیسے مقدس جذبے کو رگیدا جاۓ ، تو یہ غلط ، جہاد نا ہوا ، کوئی پروڈکٹ ہوئی ، جس نے چاہا مال لگایا ، اور کام بنایا ، امریکہ کے سٹریٹجک مفادات کے تحفظ کو ، مذہبی عنوانات لگا کر ، دوسروں کو نا زیبا ، فتوے صادر کرنا ، یہی "فرقہ پرستی" ہے
 
What is legitimate source? Jewish sponsored Television or a sect owned Press TV. The post you are referring to was quoted by a reliable news source but not owned by a big media house.

For example in war torn Syria, who is the reliable source for news? State owned TV or the voices of the oppressed.

@Pakola Khi: Your recent thread has just been deleted for being a false propaganda report from propaganda militant web tv Ansar Allah. A lot of members asked for confirmation from any legitimate source.

For mehwish, and her propaganda posts, her words just get automatically get opposite reaction. For her, if she do reverse psychology that might help her cause.
 

moahhid

MPA (400+ posts)
Mehwish Ali endless crap from PRESS TV and her Bashar worship is allowed,
while any thing from any other perspective is either removed or merged with threads that are 4 months old.

The standards applied are not consistent as well. There is a clear bias.

Either allow a full debate or have zero tolerance. This selective policing isn't working.

Well said brother. JazakAllah khair
 
Hans

Thanks for the advice.

The reality is, Shia-Sunni conflict exist but what we can do is avoid that on this forum. Unfortunately, what happens is that we let one post flourish and tarnish the sentiments on one group and when the other presents explanations or counters the propaganda it is deleted.

A scholar from Saudi is made fun of but a funny or ridiculous fatwa from any other country is deleted and labelled as igniting sectarianism.




Sir jeeee.... relax.

Try to stay netural. If you can do that .. you are above all issue. I do understnd your pain, for Muslim ummah.
But what can we do, most of the Muslim killings is done by Salfist, not by Sunni or Shia.

Hate comes not through Shia Sunni issue, its Salfist that run this show.
 

Researcher

MPA (400+ posts)
What is legitimate source? Jewish sponsored Television or a sect owned Press TV. The post you are referring to was quoted by a reliable news source but not owned by a big media house.

For example in war torn Syria, who is the reliable source for news? State owned TV or the voices of the oppressed.

@Pakola Khi: You are still not getting it. It was such a powerful claim that Iraqi govt is saying that nauzbillah Hazrat Mehdi has arrived and spreading his pictures to get sectarian benefit. Literally, my blood boiled and I checked the image posted with logo 'Ansar Allah'. A little search told that its Militant PROPAGANDA WEB tv. One thing I asked was some other source, which you could not provide to any members; who asked same, where you could not provide a single legitimate reference.

Please spare us from the crap of state owned Syrian idiots or their idiotic counterparts? With all due respect, you and mehwish has one thing common -- looks everything from sectarian point of view. With real apology for being so direct, please grow up and be a unifying force rather than dividing force. This Saudi-Irani nexus will not affect any other country more than Pakistan and its people.
 

karachiwala

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
I also feel it strange. Whenever I post anything about Sahaba there are some who just come out shouting profanities. IN all these posts there was never any discussion of any sect. I believe that in Pakistan minorities are getting too much attention and rights. Everyone know that for Sunni Muslims, and this country is a Sunni Muslim dominant country, respect for Sahaba is part of religion. But we see some who cannot bear anything good about Sahaba. I am not going to start a debate on the subject but this is a fact.
 
You still don't get it do you. One man's reliable news source is another man's propaganda TV. During 1965 PTV was propaganda TV in the eyes of Indians and in 1971 the people of what today is Bangladesh called PTV the propaganda TV. So dont get too carried away with the western labeling of alternate news source as Propaganda TV.

I will not answer your second paragraph as this post is addressing an issue faced by other posters as well. So let it retain its sober tone.

@Pakola Khi: You are still not getting it. It was such a powerful claim that Iraqi govt is saying that nauzbillah Hazrat Mehdi has arrived and spreading his pictures to get sectarian benefit. Literally, my blood boiled and I checked the image posted with logo 'Ansar Allah'. A little search told that its Militant PROPAGANDA WEB tv. One thing I asked was some other source, which you could not provide to any members; who asked same, where you could not provide a single legitimate reference.

Please spare us from the crap of state owned Syrian idiots or their idiotic counterparts? With all due respect, you and mehwish has one thing common -- looks everything from sectarian point of view. With real apology for being so direct, please grow up and be a unifying force rather than dividing force. This Saudi-Irani nexus will not affect any other country more than Pakistan and its people.
 

Researcher

MPA (400+ posts)
Just one last bit for your stubbornness to claim that "Ansar Allah" is not propaganda web tv (as you claim its western labeling). Let's settle the case of "Ansar Allah" tv once for all:

- Please show one neutral/reliable source which backs the story of "reliable news outlet Ansar Allah" that Iraqi Govt has said that Hazrat Mehdi has arrived and they are giving away his pictures around it.

If you can not find one, please join me to say that it is NOT reliable source. Thank you.


You still don't get it do you. One man's reliable news source is another man's propaganda TV. During 1965 PTV was propaganda TV in the eyes of Indians and in 1971 the people of what today is Bangladesh called PTV the propaganda TV. So dont get too carried away with the western labeling of alternate news source as Propaganda TV.

I will not answer your second paragraph as this post is addressing an issue faced by other posters as well. So let it retain its sober tone.
 
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Show me a "Neutral" source of news and I will oblige with your request

Just one last bit for your stubbornness to claim that "Ansar Allah" is not propaganda web tv (as you claim its western labeling). Let's settle the case of "Ansar Allah" tv once for all:

- Please show one neutral/reliable source which backs the story of "reliable news outlet Ansar Allah" that Iraqi Govt has said that Hazrat Mehdi has arrived and they are giving away his pictures around it.

If you can not find one, please join me to say that it is NOT reliable source. Thank you.
 

rainbow22

MPA (400+ posts)
Shia Sunni should fight who try to make them fight. We have so much in common, only united we can defend Pakistan from our enemies(India, USA, TTP khawarjis and BLA) Who ever divide us is the enemy(TTP supporters or who ever).
 

BrotherKantu

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)


جب خود کو یہ ہی نہیں پتہ کہ ؟ فرقہ پرستی کیا ہے تو ، پھر مذہبی منافرت پھیلانے کی کیا ضرورت ؟
ہر شخص کو پتہ ہے ، کیا درست اور کیا غلط ، اب یہاں "معصومیت" کا لبادہ اوڑھ کر سوالات کرنا ، صرف شرارت



شام میں دو متحارب گروہ ایک دوسسرے سے نبرد آزما ہیں ، ایک کی مدد ایران اور دوسرے کی مدد امریکہ ، اسرائیل ، اور مغربی ممالک کر رہے ہیں ، اس جاری جنگ میں سے ، جب زبردستی اسلام کی برآمدگی کی جاۓ ، جہاد جیسے مقدس جذبے کو رگیدا جاۓ ، تو یہ غلط ، جہاد نا ہوا ، کوئی پروڈکٹ ہوئی ، جس نے چاہا مال لگایا ، اور کام بنایا ، امریکہ کے سٹریٹجک مفادات کے تحفظ کو ، مذہبی عنوانات لگا کر ، دوسروں کو نا زیبا ، فتوے صادر کرنا ، یہی "فرقہ پرستی" ہے
زرداری دو واری ،،، نورے تین واری ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟ پاکستان ، صومالیہ، بھائی بھائی