UK Asylum claim hope for student shot in head in Pakistan

SMAAS

Senator (1k+ posts)
An Ahmadi who was shot in the head in Pakistan has arrived in the UK for treatment and will now claim asylum here in order to avoid returning to his home country.


Ummad Farooq, who was in the UK studying in Sunderland on a student visa, had gone home to Karachi for his brother Saad's wedding on the 19 October when the same brother was killed in the attack.


He came back to the UK with the bullet still lodged in his head and is now getting treatment at Queen Elizabeth hospital in Birmingham - the hospital treating Taliban victim Malala Yousafzai.


Ummad Farooq says his family were targeted because his father is the president of the Ahmadiyya community in his locality.


Ahmadis are a sect whose views differ from Islam. They suffer persecution because of this and in 1974 the Pakistani government declared the sect non-Muslim..

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Just to settle in UK or reality? no news on this incident in Pak Media.
 
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tariisb

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)


پاکستان کا نمک تو بہت کھایا ہے اب "گولی" کھاؤ ،


یہی سبق ہے جو ہمارے جنونی ، ریاستی اداروں کی مدد سے پاکستانیوں کو دے رہے ہیں


دہشت گرد آزاد اور ادارے مفلوج ، انجام کیا ہوگا ؟ الله جانے
 
Koi iss tak message pohnchao k tumhein chance mila hai abhi bhi tauba kar k Toheed ka kalma parh kar khud k liye or apnay walidain k liye jannat kama lay...
 

Believer12

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Koi iss tak message pohnchao k tumhein chance mila hai abhi bhi tauba kar k Toheed ka kalma parh kar khud k liye or apnay walidain k liye jannat kama lay...
aghar message of islam goli mar kar do gay to kisi kay muslim na hone ka hisab bhi tumko dena ho ga.kiunke islam goli say nahi piyar say phaila hai.
 

Believer12

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Jistarha hum sabka mazhab wohi hai jo hum kehtey hain isi tarha Ahmadis ka mazhab wohi hai jo woh khud kehtey hain.aur woh apney aapko muslim hi kehte hain.
 

Baazz

Senator (1k+ posts)
ahmadis nonmuslim hain..wajabul qatil nahi...
Aik bugunaah ka khoon puri insaneyat ka khoon ha..
 

_pakistan

Minister (2k+ posts)
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adnan_younus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
sad incident if true.... paksitan has become land of animal rule... thank u zia ul haq.. for ur idiotism.. may yr laash sarraofy in the grave...
 

amfah

MPA (400+ posts)
shame on u.its his religion.ap thekedar nahen ho.duniya mien 70 percent population humere nabi ko nahen manti tu kiya seb ko qatal kero gey.they are pakistani.chahe koi bhi mazhub ho
 

amfah

MPA (400+ posts)
kiya siasi biyan hay.kiya ap ney theka liya huwa ahy wajib ul qatal kehney ka? kuch ker nahen sektey bus qatal ka fatwa lega diya keb jago gey.they are al pakistani.jis ka jo aqeeda hay chaur do thekedar na buno apney gher per dhiyan do.
mulvi tu hay he fasadi .uk ko chauro ilm hasil kero aur insaniyet ke khidmet kero
 

smssr84

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Ahmadis are Muslims.... if you dont agree.... too bad for you... but let them practice what they want to! Allah has not made anyone on this earth who can judge or decide other's faith!.... those who do end up in hell like Zia-ul-haq.

Pakistanis need to grow up and wake up! they are destroyed by this jahalat of these Mullahs!
 

wadera

Senator (1k+ posts)
Let us be objective:

1. This guy was shot about 2-3 weeks ago and even though bullet is in his face there is only a small mark and that he is sitting here talking about asylum? ..

2. If this guys story is correct then his father was shot 5 times but survived? Okay, maybe its possible?

3. How do you explain that this was a targeted Ahmadi killing? He happened to be Ahmadi but this kind of killings happen in Karachi every day and I doubt this was targeted against Ahmadis?

4. Lastly and most importantly, this video is posted by a user on youtube whose user name is "pornsextube1" and country of origin is India. He only joined youtube 2 days ago.

Question to [MENTION=26778]SMAAS[/MENTION] .. how did you come to know about this video? Please remember I am not accusing you or anything like that. .. rather just curious.
 

wadera

Senator (1k+ posts)
Ahmadis are Muslims.... if you dont agree.... too bad for you... but let them practice what they want to! Allah has not made anyone on this earth who can judge or decide other's faith!.... those who do end up in hell like Zia-ul-haq.

Pakistanis need to grow up and wake up! they are destroyed by this jahalat of these Mullahs!

If there is anyone against Zia its me.

However, do you know why Ahmadi's are considered non-Muslims?

Forget the 'jaahil' mullahs .. just goto this link: http://www.thecult.info/ this is a website by a guy who was an Ahmadi and he reverted to Islam.

Don't be judgmental etc . just seriously go through the website and learn for yourself.
 

smssr84

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Let us be objective:

1. This guy was shot about 2-3 weeks ago and even though bullet is in his face there is only a small mark and that he is sitting here talking about asylum? ..

2. If this guys story is correct then his father was shot 5 times but survived? Okay, maybe its possible?

3. How do you explain that this was a targeted Ahmadi killing? He happened to be Ahmadi but this kind of killings happen in Karachi every day and I doubt this was targeted against Ahmadis?

4. Lastly and most importantly, this video is posted by a user on youtube whose user name is "pornsextube1" and country of origin is India. He only joined youtube 2 days ago.

Question to @SMAAS .. how did you come to know about this video? Please remember I am not accusing you or anything like that. .. rather just curious.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20224176

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-Ne...munity-finds-no-one-to-turn-to-for-protection

http://tribune.com.pk/story/454052/hate-violence-targeted-attack-leaves-one-ahmadi-dead-three-hurt/
 

smssr84

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
If there is anyone against Zia its me.

However, do you know why Ahmadi's are considered non-Muslims?

Forget the 'jaahil' mullahs .. just goto this link: http://www.thecult.info/ this is a website by a guy who was an Ahmadi and he reverted to Islam.

Don't be judgmental etc . just seriously go through the website and learn for yourself.

I dont care what you think what they are or what they are "considered" as.... if they say they are Muslims, then let them be... thats what Jinnah said when he was asked about Ahmadis.

this insanity of judging other person's religion has gone out of hands. first Ahmadis were legally called non-muslims, now Shias are Kafir... next Barealvi will be faithless! at the end no one will be a muslim!!... its better Pakistanis worry about their own faith and let Allah decide who is kitna muslim and who isnt!!.... Allah ka kaam apne haath main lo gaye tu wohi hoga jo iss waqt mulk ka haal hai!!.... janjal pura!!
 

wadera

Senator (1k+ posts)
I dont care what you think what they are or what they are "considered" as.... if they say they are Muslims, then let them be... thats what Jinnah said when he was asked about Ahmadis.

this insanity of judging other person's religion has gone out of hands. first Ahmadis were legally called non-muslims, now Shias are Kafir... next Barealvi will be faithless! at the end no one will be a muslim!!... its better Pakistanis worry about their own faith and let Allah decide who is kitna muslim and who isnt!!.... Allah ka kaam apne haath main lo gaye tu wohi hoga jo iss waqt mulk ka haal hai!!.... janjal pura!!

Firstly, take a chill pill.

Secondly, thanks for sharing the news reports but they are news reports i.e. media creates them to sell their news papers.

Thirdly, and most importantly, let us look at your thinking:

- you don't care what they are considered but if they say they are Muslims let them be

just read this link - http://www.ahmadibeliefs.com/allah and tell me whether you still think they deserved to be cause Muslims? Remember your thinking seems to be that Islam is a label that anyone should be able to wear it. This thinking is wrong. People who adhere to The Holy Quran and Sunnah, should wear this label not who are against the Holy Quran, the Sunnah and Allah Al Mighty.

If you allow such people to carry Islam as a tag then you are not being fair as you are infact allowing these people to mis-represent Islam according to Holy Quran and Sunnah. Also read, below the experience of a guy who was an Ahmadi but reverted, it is very interesting read ...

http://www.thecult.info/Life_After_the_Cult.pdf

- you quote Jinnah as saying something about Ahmadis

Jinnah is the founder of Pakistan but not founder of Islam.

Lastly, yes Pakistanis are indeed worrying about their faiths when they are pointing out deviants.
 

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