Trump may have found his big ally to counterbalance China and it's not Russia

Musafir123

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For all the talk about the mutual admiration between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin, it may not be Russia that the U.S. president sees as America's critical new ally.


In his first few days in office, Trump scheduled a phone call with Narendra Modi, making the prime minister of India one of the first leaders he spoke to following his inauguration.


In its official statement Tuesday evening, the White House said that Trump and Modi "discussed opportunities to strengthen the partnership between the United States and India in broad areas such as the economy and defense."


Sources close to the prime minster said the conversation was focused on defense. The White House did not respond to a CNBC request for further comment.


A tightening of relations with India is something that was already accelerating under Barack Obama, whose administration saw the world's biggest democracy as a counterbalance to China's rising power. Trump may take the relationship further.

"Through successive administrations and strong congressional support, the United States has made tremendous investments to expand its relationship with India over the past several years," said Manpreet Anand, former U.S. deputy assistant secretary in the Bureau of South and Central Asian Affairs.


"The Trump administration has an opportunity to double down on those efforts as the strategic interests of our two countries continue to align," Anand told CNBC.

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Foreign policy experts say Washington needs India to counter China's growing dominance in Asia which Trump may be inadvertently encouraging and to ensure the United States cements some type of influence in that part of the world.


That task is all the more important now that Trump has withdrawn from the Trans-Pacific Partnership. That free trade bloc, which had the United States at its center and which excluded China, would have further buttressed U.S. leadership in Asia. With the TPP off the table, however, China immediately has begun to step in to fill the void.
"Many U.S. strategic thinkers see the rise of India as a natural balancer to China as beneficial to the U.S.," said Sasha Riser-Kositsky, Asia analyst at consulting firm Eurasia Group. "Over roughly the last 10 years, U.S. policy has broadly followed this logic, helping strengthen ties with India and offering unprecedented cooperation in terms of civilian nuclear power and co-development and co-production of defense technologies while asking relatively little in exchange."


'Security in the region of South and Central Asia'


Trump's hostile rhetoric toward Muslims plays well with some members of India's Hindu majority. India has a large Muslim minority, and the country has suffered many terror attacks within its borders that New Delhi claims are supported by Muslim-majority Pakistan. Modi's political party, called the Bharatiya Janata Party, has its roots in Hindu nationalism.
The White House also said on Tuesday that the two leaders of the largest democracies in the world discussed "security in the region of South and Central Asia."


India rarely gets involved in conflicts that do not directly involve the country, especially given India's perpetual border disputes with Pakistan. At the same time, however, during Modi's visit to Washington, which is expected sometime the year, the Indian leader will likely want Trump to take a more aggressive position toward Pakistan and support New Delhi's counterterrorism efforts.
Trump's rhetoric toward India and Modi himself has been consistently positive. Analysts say the U.S. president could be setting the table for a stronger relationship between Washington and New Delhi in the coming years and could ultimately elevate India's global profile, which has been a key objective for Modi. For years India has been living in the shadow of China as the second-best emerging market for investors.


Trump's and Modi's phone conversation on Tuesday came one week ahead of the release of India's annual budget, in which New Delhi is expected to announce further fiscal spending.


Despite economic headwinds and uncertainty around Trump's foreign policy, DoubleLine Capital's Jeffrey Gundlach told Barron's over the weekend that India is an attractive destination for investors. Bombay's Sensex stock index is trading about 6 percent below its all-time closing high.


A possible area of conflict?


One point of contention between Trump and Modi could be immigration. India is home to many companies that host technology work for U.S.-based companies meaning that they employ Indians to do work previously done by American workers.


Companies in India are able to provide highly skilled workers at a discount to what Americans get paid. Trump arguably has been more outspoken about protecting U.S. jobs than any other president in decades.


"They also have a major item that needs to be resolved around IT outsourcing," said M.R. Rangaswami, a software executive and founder of Indiaspora, a U.S.-based community for people of Indian descent.


"The president has stated that jobs be kept in the U.S., while India is the place most Fortune 500 companies have direct IT operations or outsourcing partners. Most H-1B visas" supposedly temporary passes that give skilled foreign nationals the right to work in the United States "are used for supplementing the U.S. IT workforce by bringing professionals from India," Rangaswami said.


"This could become a messy issue that could cause tension."

Source: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/27/donald-trump-wants-india-as-ally-to-counterbalance-china.html



 

PappuChikna

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Very important point to note
"security in the region of South and Central Asia"

that includes tajikistan, kazakistan etc.

One may wonder, Pakistan offers the shortest path to central asia to rest of the world. The region is pretty far away from India and goes via iran and yet US is looking at India.
Is this because Pakistan is in opposite camp? is china the opposite camp? or our instability makes amreeka look towards india or its the love between the extremists of the two sides that bringing amreeka india close?
aur koi hai jo ghor o fikar karay?

modi and his extrremists government is obsessed with pakistan. one of the earliest demands by india will be cut of shut down of military and non-military aid to pakistan and creating other hurdles to isolate us. i hope pindi wali sarka will stay out of it and let the government deal with it.
 

bangbandhu

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Very important point to note
"security in the region of South and Central Asia"

that includes tajikistan, kazakistan etc.

One may wonder, Pakistan offers the shortest path to central asia to rest of the world. The region is pretty far away from India and goes via iran and yet US is looking at India.
Is this because Pakistan is in opposite camp? is china the opposite camp? or our instability makes amreeka look towards india or its the love between the extremists of the two sides that bringing amreeka india close?
aur koi hai jo ghor o fikar karay?

modi and his extrremists government is obsessed with pakistan. one of the earliest demands by india will be cut of shut down of military and non-military aid to pakistan and creating other hurdles to isolate us. i hope pindi wali sarka will stay out of it and let the government deal with it.


from trump and modi and nawaz sharif with love
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JARNAIL

Banned
Very important point to note
"security in the region of South and Central Asia"

that includes tajikistan, kazakistan etc.

One may wonder, Pakistan offers the shortest path to central asia to rest of the world. The region is pretty far away from India and goes via iran and yet US is looking at India.
Is this because Pakistan is in opposite camp? is china the opposite camp? or our instability makes amreeka look towards india or its the love between the extremists of the two sides that bringing amreeka india close?
aur koi hai jo ghor o fikar karay?

modi and his extrremists government is obsessed with pakistan. one of the earliest demands by india will be cut of shut down of military and non-military aid to pakistan and creating other hurdles to isolate us. i hope pindi wali sarka will stay out of it and let the government deal with it.


pakistan ne running with rabit and hunting with hound wala behaviour chalu rakha tha ,
americans ko achhi tarah se pata hai i.s.i ke taliban aur haqqani network se kaise rishte hai, bus kisi tarah america khoon ke ghoot pi kar kaam chala raha hai.
bus aur jyada bewaqoof nahi banana chahata hai .is liye dusra rasta bhi open kia hai .
 

nepali.nationalist

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
mager ch@ddi nay bheej mein kalbhushan bhi to dal diya na ..us ko kiyoon bhool jatay ho...100 billion aid lay ker JF-17 bana lia aur China ko kuch aur help bhi kerkay ab CPEC bana rahey hain :lol::lol:

Kuch log jo Russia say divorce lay ker ab bazaar mein apna r@te laga rahey hain ...un ko boht musla pera hua hai [hilar][hilar][hilar]



afghanistan bhi haath say gaya, CPEC bhi bangaya aur 100 billion aid herup kerkay hum jf-17 aur j-10 chala rahey hain ...yehi musla haina ??[hilar][hilar]

Aesa to phir hota hai aesay hi kaamoan mein ...

pakistan ne running with rabit and hunting with hound wala behaviour chalu rakha tha ,
americans ko achhi tarah se pata hai i.s.i ke taliban aur haqqani network se kaise rishte hai, bus kisi tarah america khoon ke ghoot pi kar kaam chala raha hai.
bus aur jyada bewaqoof nahi banana chahata hai .is liye dusra rasta bhi open kia hai .
 

Aslan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
pakistani army nay sari zindagi america ki ghulami ki and faida india lai gya ...hahaha

We have no permanent friends.We have no permanent enemies.We just have permanent interests (Disraeli).
America knows that China is the big threat.If China continues to grow at same rate for the next 20 or 30 years ,it will pose a serious threat to American
hegemony.America wants to use India to contain China.Hopefully China is aware of this and looks to forma its own block with Russia,Iran ,Pakistan etc.
 

ninetykman

Minister (2k+ posts)
Another Bogus article by US media owned by big US corp to prop up India. There is no match:

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/china-versus-india-race-lost-even-before-could-start-ishank-sagar

China is light years ahead of India. US media comes up with articles because it is controlled by Big US corporations. India supplies them with cheap IT talent. While China is the manufacturing factory of the World. China will overtake USA as the biggest economy in the next decade.

Pakistanis should focus on their own country. Vote for an honest leader, Invest in education, healthcare and other social fields. Collaborate with China and use their expertise to boost our economy.

US media always projects Pakistan as bad country. The $50 billion investment in CPEC got no coverage at all. If this investment was in India, the US media would be talking about it on a daily basis.
 

nepali.nationalist

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The Block Has already formed and its called Shanghai Cooperation Organization. Pakistan became a full member last year after which Russia and Pakistans Ties have started to improve.

China is in a very solid position. Its backyard of russia and Pakistan are ALL secure N00k powers and economically its CPEC investment will safeguard its economy. No one in the region has the power to take on it.

Just watch .

We have no permanent friends.We have no permanent enemies.We just have permanent interests (Disraeli).
America knows that China is the big threat.If China continues to grow at same rate for the next 20 or 30 years ,it will pose a serious threat to American
hegemony.America wants to use India to contain China.Hopefully China is aware of this and looks to forma its own block with Russia,Iran ,Pakistan etc.
 

PappuChikna

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I feel while China is cooperating with pakistan but pakistan should still make efforts to be friends with amreeka. its not in pakistan's interest to have a super power not on its side.
 

Aslan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
pakistan ne running with rabit and hunting with hound wala behaviour chalu rakha tha ,
americans ko achhi tarah se pata hai i.s.i ke taliban aur haqqani network se kaise rishte hai, bus kisi tarah america khoon ke ghoot pi kar kaam chala raha hai.
bus aur jyada bewaqoof nahi banana chahata hai .is liye dusra rasta bhi open kia hai .
Afghanistan has nothing to do it.America knows Russia is not a big threat anymore. Of course Russia is a very powerful country in terms of its military but economically Russia is weak.America will not start a war with Russia because Russian has more nuclear weapons than america.The real challenge for America is China.In another 30 years it is likely that China will be more powerful than America.India is being propped up to counter China.We will have to wait and see how it all pans out.The way Donal Duck is going he may not last more than a year.
As for Pakistan's links with Haqqanis,this is propaganda by ethnic Tajiks in Afghnistan and India.There are no links.In fact India is training and funding terrorists in Afghanistan who come to Pakistan and carry out attacks.
 
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Aslan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I feel while China is cooperating with pakistan but pakistan should still make efforts to be friends with amreeka. its not in pakistan's interest to have a super power not on its side.
Who is saying Pakistan has become an enemy of America?Pakistan will still have good relations,however American policy has tilted towards India because of China.
 

PappuChikna

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Who is saying Pakistan has become an enemy of America?Pakistan will still have good relations,however American policy has tilted towards India because of China.

tou bhayya aap ko paisay kis baat kay miltay hein?
amreeka ko apnay camp mein lao, bajaey modi kay pass bhaijnay kay.
 

Aslan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
tou bhayya aap ko paisay kis baat kay miltay hein?
amreeka ko apnay camp mein lao, bajaey modi kay pass bhaijnay kay.
I don't know what you are saying.every country has its own interests and decides its own policies.Have you heard of the saying by Disraeli?
"We have no permanent friends.We have no permanet enemies.We just have permanent interests."
 

PappuChikna

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I don't know what you are saying.every country has its own interests and decides its own policies.Have you heard of the saying by Disraeli?
"We have no permanent friends.We have no permanet enemies.We just have permanent interests."

jee..yahee.
pakistan has an interest with amreeka so pakistan should try to be friends with amreeka.
 

ninetykman

Minister (2k+ posts)
Who is saying Pakistan has become an enemy of America?Pakistan will still have good relations,however American policy has tilted towards India because of China.

India
is no match for Chinese economic and Mililtary power.

Chinese exports $2.1 tr USD
DONGENG 4 ICBM With a range of 14,000 kilometers

two examples of Chinese prowess.

Pakistan should have good relations with all but USA has always used us. And out corrupt elite needs US visa to run away. This is the problem. We have to clean house and vote for a leader who will look after country's interest.
 

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