To the parents of hafiz moeez butt and muneeb butt

fikribhai

Citizen
WE ARE SORRY AND DEEPLY REGRET WHAT HAPPENED

The murder of HAFIZ MOEEZ BUTT AND MUNEEB BUTT in Sialkot has sent shocking signals to all over the world about Pakistan where such acts of horrific and barbaric nature could take place in the daylight in the presence of law enforcing agencies. This is the clearest possible example of lawlessness in a country that has effectively become a police state. I am sure this incident would not have gone to this extent if there were no police presence.

In a country where extrajudicial killings go unnoticed and police is allowed to do fake encounters to kill criminals because neither our police have got the ability to do professional investigation nor our justice system is strong and efficient to punish the criminals, innocent citizens would continue to be humiliated by the corrupt and characterless police officers.

The fact that two innocent boys were brutally tortured, murdered and their dead bodies were mutilated for hours in public in the presence of police and there was no action by any authority for days until the Supreme Court took notice of the incident, just shows the pathetic state of affairs in the country. This incident was a national tragedy damaging the whole fabric of society and sending very negative signals about Pakistan internationally. At times when a major part of the country is devastated by floods and we are asking for help from all over the world, we need hope, unity and sense of belonging, while incidents like this create desperation, cause deep emotional pain and grief to masses. Most Pakistanis after this incident are feeling very low and have lost their sense of pride.

It is the responsibility of whole nation to take steps to redress this situation of despair and pain. First of all we should make sure that people responsible for this heinous crime get the punishment they deserve. The involved policemen should also be tried for murder of innocent civilians. I hope justice would be done after the Honorable Chief Justice of Pakistan has taken notice of this. However, just providing justice to the family of victims would not be enough, it is a collective responsibility and we, as a nation, should ask for forgiveness from the grieved parents of the victims, as this is the only way to redeem ourselves.

The incident is all over the international media, Internet and Youtube and it continues to affect millions of people and especially Pakistanis all over the world. Media, civil society and human right organizations in Pakistan should play their role and press the government for a public apology from the aggrieved family. As the Head of State, President should ask for this forgiveness from the family in public and this should be broadcasted on the national media. We should send a clear signal to the world community that we could do anything to bring back our pride as a nation.

Through this forum, I offer my deepest condolences to the grieved family and also ask for their forgiveness. My apology is not going to bring back their loved ones, we could at least say:

WE ARE SORRY AND DEEPLY REGRET AT YOUR LOSS OF LOVED ONES

May ALMIGHTY ALLAH forgive us for all of our sins and show us the right path.
 

itsnotme90

Minister (2k+ posts)
Thats why people say if u wanna finish corrupion from pakistan finish police department and corruption will be finish. Actually i believe that if we make a very strict law regarding police that if they found to be involve in any crime then their punishment should be only capital then no police man will ever take risk of his life by committing any crime coz they are responsible for stoping crime not committing crime and get all benefits from government after getting job in police.
 

rana14801

Senator (1k+ posts)
Fikribhai welcome to forum with such a heart paining incident of killing innocent brothers in the presence of police. the involved people only deserve capital punishment. in fact capital punishment shall be too less a punishment, they should be killed in the public and by the public the same way they did. this is an Islamic way of revenge and no doubt we as a whole nation feel guilty and sorry about the incident and v do ask the parents for an apology. may ALLAH GIVE THEM STRENGTH TO BEAR THE INCIDENT.AAMEEN
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Firi Bhai, tell our president and Punjab Government to resign and announce new election for a better government.

Actually it is bloody referendum against this failed Government....

This is the way to say sorry....

Otherwise every criminal could say simple sorry , and thats all....... No No , this is not the way...

You have to pay for that.....Either execution or Qisas....This is Hadood Allah and in the favour of all human being.....

All Pakistani nation could not pay the Qisas for this incident....

A change is reqired.....And it has been triggered by now, no one could stop it.
 
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UKspec786

Councller (250+ posts)
We are a long long way away from inqilab.
Zardari has a right to rule over us animals.
Allah have mercy on us.

Sadke Ya RasoolAllah.
 

Ali-NZ

Minister (2k+ posts)
now give me one reason why we punjabis cry about so called target killings in karachi or suicide bomb blast of taliban. Our cities of punjab are living torture cells. This is a fine example of it. Every year feudal lords make women run naked in the streets or kill innocents in the name of honor. I am ashamed of myself to be a punjabi.
 

Ali-NZ

Minister (2k+ posts)
now give me one reason why we punjabis cry about so called target killings in karachi or suicide bomb blast of taliban. Our cities of punjab are living torture cells. This is a fine example of it. Every year feudal lords make women run naked in the streets or kill innocents in the name of honor. I am ashamed of myself to be a punjabi.
 

itsnotme90

Minister (2k+ posts)
now give me one reason why we punjabis cry about so called target killings in karachi or suicide bomb blast of taliban. Our cities of punjab are living torture cells. This is a fine example of it. Every year feudal lords make women run naked in the streets or kill innocents in the name of honor. I am ashamed of myself to be a punjabi.

Brother i m glad that atleast you r trying to confront your community and believe me this what we all need to do that we all hav to confront our own community and cast people to bring change otherwise we will never be able to unite and improve ourself. Calling other people with bad words while we are worst ourself. Every time i watch this video it make me feel so bad that i hav no words to explain.
 

bons

Minister (2k+ posts)
These brutals were not only Pakistanis but also Muslims and human beings. Why don't you feel ashamed of being human beings? Whole nation cannot be ridiculed for individual actions. Similar incidents happened in the past in Karachi when dacoits were burned alive. Why didn't you speak at that time? because you didn't see the videos. This incident is highlighted and media has shown what they were not supposed to show on TV.
 

Ali-NZ

Minister (2k+ posts)
These brutals were not only Pakistanis but also Muslims and human beings. Why don't you feel ashamed of being human beings? Whole nation cannot be ridiculed for individual actions. Similar incidents happened in the past in Karachi when dacoits were burned alive. Why didn't you speak at that time? because you didn't see the videos. This incident is highlighted and media has shown what they were not supposed to show on TV.

Yes I remember that and I equally condem that but as you said those were some dacoits and it was a reaction of victims of that market. In this case its just simple brutality read today's Jang for the story. I hope you would understand.
 

m_imran45

Citizen
یہ محلوں , یہ تختوں , یہ تاجوں کی دنیا

یہ انسان کے دشمن , سماجوں کی دنیا

یہ دولت کے بھوکھے , رواجوں کی دنیا


یہاں اگر کوئی زندہ بچ بھی جائے تو مردہ

یہاں اگر کوئی زندہ بچ بھی جائے تو مردہ


یہاں اک کھلونا ہے انسان کی ہستی

یہ بستی ہے مردہ پرستوں کی بستی

یہاں پر تو جیون سے ہے موت سستی

یہاں اگر کوئی زندہ بچ بھی جائے تو مردہ

یہاں اگر کوئی زندہ بچ بھی جائے تو مردہ
 

Pragmatic

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
یہ محلوں , یہ تختوں , یہ تاجوں کی دنیا

یہ انسان کے دشمن , سماجوں کی دنیا

یہ دولت کے بھوکھے , رواجوں کی دنیا


یہاں اگر کوئی زندہ بچ بھی جائے تو مردہ

یہاں اگر کوئی زندہ بچ بھی جائے تو مردہ


یہاں اک کھلونا ہے انسان کی ہستی

یہ بستی ہے مردہ پرستوں کی بستی

یہاں پر تو جیون سے ہے موت سستی


یہاں اگر کوئی زندہ بچ بھی جائے تو مردہ

یہاں اگر کوئی زندہ بچ بھی جائے تو مردہ
 

Pragmatic

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
یہ محلوں , یہ تختوں , یہ تاجوں کی دنیا

یہ انسان کے دشمن , سماجوں کی دنیا

یہ دولت کے بھوکھے , رواجوں کی دنیا


یہاں اگر کوئی زندہ بچ بھی جائے تو مردہ

یہاں اگر کوئی زندہ بچ بھی جائے تو مردہ


یہاں اک کھلونا ہے انسان کی ہستی

یہ بستی ہے مردہ پرستوں کی بستی

یہاں پر تو جیون سے ہے موت سستی


یہاں اگر کوئی زندہ بچ بھی جائے تو مردہ

یہاں اگر کوئی زندہ بچ بھی جائے تو مردہ
 

bons

Minister (2k+ posts)
Yes I remember that and I equally condem that but as you said those were some dacoits and it was a reaction of victims of that market. In this case its just simple brutality read today's Jang for the story. I hope you would understand.

That was brutality and this is also brutality. I condemn all such incidents. My only question is why we Pakistanis start blaming our country for everything. What have we done for our country? have you seen or heard any Indian saying that they are ashamed of India despite the extreme shameful incidents there?



 
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jony1

MPA (400+ posts)
WE ARE SORRY AND DEEPLY REGRET WHAT HAPPENED

The murder of HAFIZ MOEEZ BUTT AND MUNEEB BUTT in Sialkot has sent shocking signals to all over the world about Pakistan where such acts of horrific and barbaric nature could take place in the daylight in the presence of law enforcing agencies. This is the clearest possible example of lawlessness in a country that has effectively become a police state. I am sure this incident would not have gone to this extent if there were no police presence.

In a country where extrajudicial killings go unnoticed and police is allowed to do fake encounters to kill criminals because neither our police have got the ability to do professional investigation nor our justice system is strong and efficient to punish the criminals, innocent citizens would continue to be humiliated by the corrupt and characterless police officers.

The fact that two innocent boys were brutally tortured, murdered and their dead bodies were mutilated for hours in public in the presence of police and there was no action by any authority for days until the Supreme Court took notice of the incident, just shows the pathetic state of affairs in the country. This incident was a national tragedy damaging the whole fabric of society and sending very negative signals about Pakistan internationally. At times when a major part of the country is devastated by floods and we are asking for help from all over the world, we need hope, unity and sense of belonging, while incidents like this create desperation, cause deep emotional pain and grief to masses. Most Pakistanis after this incident are feeling very low and have lost their sense of pride.

It is the responsibility of whole nation to take steps to redress this situation of despair and pain. First of all we should make sure that people responsible for this heinous crime get the punishment they deserve. The involved policemen should also be tried for murder of innocent civilians. I hope justice would be done after the Honorable Chief Justice of Pakistan has taken notice of this. However, just providing justice to the family of victims would not be enough, it is a collective responsibility and we, as a nation, should ask for forgiveness from the grieved parents of the victims, as this is the only way to redeem ourselves.

The incident is all over the international media, Internet and Youtube and it continues to affect millions of people and especially Pakistanis all over the world. Media, civil society and human right organizations in Pakistan should play their role and press the government for a public apology from the aggrieved family. As the Head of State, President should ask for this forgiveness from the family in public and this should be broadcasted on the national media. We should send a clear signal to the world community that we could do anything to bring back our pride as a nation.

Through this forum, I offer my deepest condolences to the grieved family and also ask for their forgiveness. My apology is not going to bring back their loved ones, we could at least say:

WE ARE SORRY AND DEEPLY REGRET AT YOUR LOSS OF LOVED ONES

May ALMIGHTY ALLAH forgive us for all of our sins and show us the right path.
Thanks to post this sinsative issue. I was thinking all the time what really makes them to become so wild brutel animal.
It just seems it was planed. Police was involved and nobody has even try to say anything or to help them. Don't you think some powerful person can be behind of this stupid activity just to show to the city that he is one of the biggst one.
Please try to find of the cause. No channel said any justified reason for this action. I personally don't believe it was only just for a fun.
 

Ali-NZ

Minister (2k+ posts)
That was brutality and this is also brutality. I condemn all such incidents. My only question is why we Pakistanis start blaming our country for everything. What have we done for our country? have you seen or heard any Indian saying that they are ashamed of India despite the extreme shameful incidents there?

To HELL with India, I am worried about my country and stop being ignorant & you too my dear bro. If we won't speak out then world would right to say that we all are savages.
Do you live in isolation? Don't you have to face the world? Acknowledge our criminal ignorance and stand up, wake up bro ! I bet if it would happened in Karachi we all were pointing fingers towards MQM.
 

Pragmatic

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
With Video technology and Media,inventions of infidels, true face of this egalitarian society is being depicted every now and then.High profile murders from Liaqat Ali khan to Benazir hasn't been able to able to conclude by the incompetent institutions.Expecting justice in this case would not be a possible.
 

FaisalKh

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
To HELL with India, I am worried about my country and stop being ignorant & you too my dear bro. If we won't speak out then world would right to say that we all are savages.
Do you live in isolation? Don't you have to face the world? Acknowledge our criminal ignorance and stand up, wake up bro ! I bet if it would happened in Karachi we all were pointing fingers towards MQM.
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Well you should defend your country whatever happens it is not the fault of our country that such inhuman people live here. If u would think like this then the world is justified by saying that Pakistan is a terrorist sate (By this i mean they blame Pakistan for being a terrorist country just becoz of few illiterate and inhuman people who has destroyed the image of Pakistan and Islam not knowing what Jihad is. If you think this is not true and they should not blame whole Pakistan just becoz of these people then u should not be ashamed of being Pakistani just becoz of those barbarians). I hope you got my point Thanks in advance
 

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