This is just the beginning, PMLN can release a secret Tape of Imran Khan : Nusrat Javed

دوسرا_سوال

Minister (2k+ posts)
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بیوقوفی اور دوگلے پن کی حد ہو گئی ہے اس قوم میں۔ چوروں اور ڈاکووں کو پارسا ثابت کرنے کے لئے لوگ اپنے ضمیر کا سودا کرنے پہ تُلے ہوۓ ہیں۔ نان ایشوز کا سہارا لے کراپنی ہی دولت کے لٹیروں کو صاف ستھرا ثابت کرنے کے لئے کیا کیا ہاتھ پیر مارے جا رہے ہیں۔
پہلی بات تو یہ کہ اس وقت سوال شریف خاندان کی اس دولت کا ہے جو انہوں نے ملک کے خزانے سے چوری کر کےپانامہ جیسے دور دراز ملک میں گوروں کے ناموں سے کمپنیاں کھول کر اُن میں ۲۵ سال تک چھپا رکھی تھی اور جس کا بھانڈا پانامہ ہی کی وکلا کی ایک فرم نے پھوڑ دیا ہے۔
دوسری بات یہ کہ شوکت خانم نے اگر دبئی کی ایک عماراتی کمپنی میں پیسہ لگایا تھا تو وہ انوکھا کام نہیں تھا ۔ دنیا کی ساری بڑی چیریٹیز پیسہ انویسٹ کرتی ہیں تاکہ اس سے حاصل شدہ منافع سے چیریٹی یعنی ہاسپٹل کا کام چلتا رہے۔ شوکت خانم کی انویسٹمنٹ کوئی رسک والی انوسٹمنٹ نہیں تھی کیونکہ معاہدے کے تحت اگر عماراتی کمپنی کو نقصان ہوتا تب بھی شوکت خانم کو پوری رقم واپس مل جاتی جیسا کہ مل بھی گئی۔ اور پھر یہ انویسٹمنٹ عمران خان کی ذات کے لئے نہیں بلکی الل اعلان ہسپتال کے لئے کی گئی تھی اور چھپا کر نہیں بلکہ ہر لیگل پیپر اور اکاونٹس میں شو کر کے کی گئی تھی۔ اب جبکہ یہ رقم واپس مل چکی ہے تو روپوں کے حساب سے جو کہ ۱۸ کروڑ روپئے انویسٹ کی گئی تھی اب ڈالر کے مقابل روپئہ گرنے کی وجہ سے ۲۶ کروڑ بن کر لوٹی ہی۔


تیسری بات کہ شریفوں کے ٹکڑوں پر پلنے والے بے حیا نصرت جاوید کا یہ کہنا کہ اگر عمران چپ نہ ہوا تو اس کے ریحام سے نکاح کی اصل تاریخ والی ویڈیو چلا دی جاۓ گی، ن لیگ کے ان چند با ضمیر لوگوں کے منہ پر تمانچا ہے جو کہ کم از کم اتنا ضمیر اور دماغ ضرور رکھتے ہیں کہ وہ دیکھ سکیں کہ چور پکڑے جانے کے بعد اپنی چوری بچانے کے لئے کیسے نکاح کی تاریخ جیسے ذاتی معاملات کی تشہیر کے پیچھے چھپنے کی کوشش کر رہا ہے۔

My friend charities are always tax free, even in Pakistan and in the West. SKMH is a charity and it doesn't have any fears of being taxed. The reason they still used off-shore accounts were to hide from people of Pakistan where they were investing. They were investing in real estate speculative adventures and that's not done in any big professional charities.


Then, the question is that the only big money project IK's ever done is the SKMH one and in that he ended up using off-shore accounts. So that proves what he considers normal. Why did he not invest that money in Pakistan just like he keeps preaching to everyone?


Then, the risk-free guarantee was only given after a media frenzy happened on the expose. It didn't exist before, and still those US$18 million have not been made good.


The point is that if Hussain uses off-shore accounts then it's wrong but when IK uses them, then it's alright? Why this double standard!


As everyone's saying here that Nawaz's London apartments existed since the 90s, my question is that when Musharraf was in power, why did he not do any action against Nawaz at the time for stealing public money and making property from it in London? That was the best time to prove Nawaz's crime, because right now it can never be done. So you need to find the answer that why did Musharraf, who is as financially clean as IK, not take it up against Nawaz at that time?


Find the answer to that my friend and enlighten me kindly when you find some answer.
 

دوسرا_سوال

Minister (2k+ posts)
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SARKAR, agar us vdo mein IK bhi corruption kar raha hy aur Pakistani awam ko loot raha hy to usko bhi sharif family ke saath jail mein daal dia jay!

aur doosri baat SARKAR, issue offshore companies ka nahi hy!
3 Main issues yeh hy:-

1. Paisa aya kahan se?
2. Paisa bahir kab/kaisay gia?
3. Paisay pe tax diya ya nahi?


Look my friend, lets be fair and not take sides. And also lets be practical too.


At the point with PMLN govt. in power, we will never get the answers to these questions. But, there was a time when these questions, along with Zardari's US$60 million could have been sorted out. At that time, one of the most financially upright person was in command of Pakistan and yet he could not do a small investigation on Nawaz's property in London? WHY??


Hussain has given an explanation, that the money came from Saudi Banks, it happened after the 1999 coup and it is all tax-paid legal money. Now, I don't believe it to be true for a moment, but I can't claim him to be wrong because I have no evidence otherwise. The only person who could have gotten the right investigation was Musharraf at that time or if the agencies have any evidence today, then they should release them to public. Otherwise, we are just randomly jumping up and down in an internet forum and achieving nothing.


I just can't believe that so many anchors are saying today that the knowledge of Nawaz's property in London has been known since 90s but no action was taken against him all this time including Musharraf's tenure!
 

دوسرا_سوال

Minister (2k+ posts)
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Sir, do you have any proof that Khan or any of his blood relative made fortune by those offshore companies ? The decision to invest SKMH endowment fund was an administrative choice and it is standard practice for organizations to invest in order to increase their income.

Furthermore, I damn care kai Khan nai Reham sai nikah kab kia ya nahi kia. I voted for him in 2013 elections to administer the country. I will question him if he misuses even a single penny from KPK funds. I will stand against PTI if they fail to deliver what they promised. I will never vote for them again if they prove out to be corrupt like other politicians.

By claiming that all politicians are equally corrupt and you are supporting no one, you are just making a fool out of yourself. Your blogging history tells the complete story. Grow some balls and admit who you are supporting !
So same like that because I have stepped back from all organised religion, I have not only lost my belief system, but also balls? Wow, such cleverness.


In 2013, I voted for PTI. I would still vote for them if the promise of 350 MHP and universal syllabus is fulfilled. But I hardly see that happening. In the meanwhile, I am in favour of letting the system run no matter who is elected, firstly because that's the only chance for any improvement and we've tried all other alternatives and secondly the problems Pakistan faces are much worse than Nawaz-o-Zardar, because remember it was before them when we lost half of our country, so there's been worse things before.


I still say that IK is the most eligible candidate in the sense that "aye chaa vi pura kar lawo, taan thand paye" that Pakistan's problems are bigger than IK, Nawaz istifaa or martial law.
 

Judge

MPA (400+ posts)
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Look my friend, lets be fair and not take sides. And also lets be practical too.


At the point with PMLN govt. in power, we will never get the answers to these questions. But, there was a time when these questions, along with Zardari's US$60 million could have been sorted out. At that time, one of the most financially upright person was in command of Pakistan and yet he could not do a small investigation on Nawaz's property in London? WHY??


Hussain has given an explanation, that the money came from Saudi Banks, it happened after the 1999 coup and it is all tax-paid legal money. Now, I don't believe it to be true for a moment, but I can't claim him to be wrong because I have no evidence otherwise. The only person who could have gotten the right investigation was Musharraf at that time or if the agencies have any evidence today, then they should release them to public. Otherwise, we are just randomly jumping up and down in an internet forum and achieving nothing.


I just can't believe that so many anchors are saying today that the knowledge of Nawaz's property in London has been known since 90s but no action was taken against him all this time including Musharraf's tenure!

Beg to disagree Bro, Hussain made a blunder
I have been in that property when Hussain was a student and if my memory serves me right it was 1996
definitely before Hamza came to London which was 1998 so 1999 is a false statement.
so property was in their name before 1999 coup, Hussain has cocked up big time, he really should have kept his mouth shut.
 

دوسرا_سوال

Minister (2k+ posts)
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Beg to disagree Bro, Hussain made a blunder
I have been in that property when Hussain was a student and if my memory serves me right it was 1996
definitely before Hamza came to London which was 1998 so 1999 is a false statement.
so property was in their name before 1999 coup, Hussain has cocked up big time, he really should have kept his mouth shut.
So you know the meme "pics or it didn't happen"...

Lately too many people I've been speaking to have said the same thing. Taxi drivers claims that they used to drop Hussain and his siblings and Dad in their taxi to the footsteps of that property. Pakistani meter readers working for UK companies have been telling me that they have seen Hussain, Hasan, Nawaz, Shahbabaz, Hamza and all their families there in those flat when they went to do meter reading. People like Orya Maqbool and journalists and anchors are all saying that they've had dinners and lunches there. Everyone for some reason not it trying to link their experience to those flats and Nawaz family as if its the new fashion...

...and my reply to all of that is: PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

Let's suppose those properties existed in 90s and everyone knew about them, the point then is that Musharraf and all these journalists and anchors, including you who has been in and out of that property which was made from money looted from Pakistani people, what did all these people do at that time? Why did you, journalists, anchor, Musharraf sleep in this information and not got the Pakistani people their right?!?
 

Sarfraz1122

MPA (400+ posts)
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So same like that because I have stepped back from all organised religion, I have not only lost my belief system, but also balls? Wow, such cleverness.


In 2013, I voted for PTI. I would still vote for them if the promise of 350 MHP and universal syllabus is fulfilled. But I hardly see that happening. In the meanwhile, I am in favour of letting the system run no matter who is elected, firstly because that's the only chance for any improvement and we've tried all other alternatives and secondly the problems Pakistan faces are much worse than Nawaz-o-Zardar, because remember it was before them when we lost half of our country, so there's been worse things before.


I still say that IK is the most eligible candidate in the sense that "aye chaa vi pura kar lawo, taan thand paye" that Pakistan's problems are bigger than IK, Nawaz istifaa or martial law.
ur political understandings are so immature.i don,t want to answer ur questions at this moment but i may answer these on day when pmln govt will be over...
but i give u sign so u can understand other side of picture..here ,
 

Shahid Abassi

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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I am sorry to know that you are ignorant about the facts about that SKCH investment and about a lot more. I will give you a very brief answer.

The point is that if Hussain uses off-shore accounts then it's wrong but when IK uses them, then it's alright? Why this double standard!
We don't care about offshore or even off offshore, Hussain needs to tell where the money come from. SKCH had it in their years accounts the same "very" year when they invested.

(1) It is not true that all charities are tax free. Tax authorities in most countries have a list of charities which are tax free. For western countries, most of these tax free charities belong to the western world. For sure SKCH is not one of those. I run an accountancy and I can at least assure you that this is the case in all Scandinavian countries and at least in 10 other European countries too. So SKCH did this for the sake of hospital and to assure an incoming income flow.
(2) When they invested this money, they declared it in their accounts. And the terms of investment agreement is an audited document. Even their auditors had confirmed the terms then. And if you look at the deal, investment was secured by securing the principal amount and by trading in dollars and not in rupees. Investment at the time of doing it, and return of funds at the time of their return, are taken in to yearly "audited" accounts. And are published then and now on their web page.

(3) Don't call Musharif clean for God sake. It is him who agreed to NRO which wrote off PPP era corruption cases woth 8000 billion, only to aid his rule. He has houses worth $35 m in Dubai and central London, do you think his salary of life time could even buy a 10th of it?

(4) Even if Musharaf wanted to, he could never find investments hidden behind offshore companies in places like panama where identifications have been secured layer after layer after layer. Had it not been for a Panaman legal firm who itself aids customers to establish these companies, one would need full fledg CIA project to unearth this.

(5) Musharaf did start investigations against them, thats why they were made to pay one billion of loans by selling property. And that's why Ishaq Dar gave statement of laundring money on Sharif's behalf. But then Saudi family came and took them away which Musharaf could not resist.

Last but not least, Musharaf was biggest b****d ever ruled Pakistan. If you just consider three things, you may change your mind about him. (1) It is not possible that ISI did not know then that MQM was working for RAW. So just for strengthning his rule he let them do that, kill thousands and establish Bhata factories. (2) NRO (3) Talban




My friend charities are always tax free, even in Pakistan and in the West. SKMH is a charity and it doesn't have any fears of being taxed. The reason they still used off-shore accounts were to hide from people of Pakistan where they were investing. They were investing in real estate speculative adventures and that's not done in any big professional charities.


Then, the question is that the only big money project IK's ever done is the SKMH one and in that he ended up using off-shore accounts. So that proves what he considers normal. Why did he not invest that money in Pakistan just like he keeps preaching to everyone?


Then, the risk-free guarantee was only given after a media frenzy happened on the expose. It didn't exist before, and still those US$18 million have not been made good.


The point is that if Hussain uses off-shore accounts then it's wrong but when IK uses them, then it's alright? Why this double standard!


As everyone's saying here that Nawaz's London apartments existed since the 90s, my question is that when Musharraf was in power, why did he not do any action against Nawaz at the time for stealing public money and making property from it in London? That was the best time to prove Nawaz's crime, because right now it can never be done. So you need to find the answer that why did Musharraf, who is as financially clean as IK, not take it up against Nawaz at that time?


Find the answer to that my friend and enlighten me kindly when you find some answer.
 
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cokee

Minister (2k+ posts)
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Patwarion ko aur kuch samajh nai aa raha iss liye dhamkion pey aa gaye hain .
 

ahameed

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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Sir, how do you trust him, when there are quiet a few evidences to prove him wrong, like
1. Kalssom aunty siad in 2000 that they purchased those flats as their kids were studying there.
2. Sadiq-al-farooq admitted few years ago on a talk show.
3. Old BBC doumantry showing same flats on sharif family's name.
4. Raymond Baker's book published in 2005 gave same companies and flats link to sharif family at that time.
and many more......

mian sb was convicted for false assets declaration and tax evasion during mush govt, Ishaq Dar's confessional state was also recorded during mush govt, but then mush did an NRO and none of the cases were investigated.

Look my friend, lets be fair and not take sides. And also lets be practical too.


At the point with PMLN govt. in power, we will never get the answers to these questions. But, there was a time when these questions, along with Zardari's US$60 million could have been sorted out. At that time, one of the most financially upright person was in command of Pakistan and yet he could not do a small investigation on Nawaz's property in London? WHY??


Hussain has given an explanation, that the money came from Saudi Banks, it happened after the 1999 coup and it is all tax-paid legal money. Now, I don't believe it to be true for a moment, but I can't claim him to be wrong because I have no evidence otherwise. The only person who could have gotten the right investigation was Musharraf at that time or if the agencies have any evidence today, then they should release them to public. Otherwise, we are just randomly jumping up and down in an internet forum and achieving nothing.


I just can't believe that so many anchors are saying today that the knowledge of Nawaz's property in London has been known since 90s but no action was taken against him all this time including Musharraf's tenure!
 

دوسرا_سوال

Minister (2k+ posts)
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ur political understandings are so immature.i don,t want to answer ur questions at this moment but i may answer these on day when pmln govt will be over...
but i give u sign so u can understand other side of picture..here ,

Oh the nostradamus-esque crazy who over-reads too much into things.... I don't blame you, my friend, carry on your craziness.
 

دوسرا_سوال

Minister (2k+ posts)
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I am sorry to know that you are ignorant about the facts about that SKCH investment and about a lot more. I will give you a very brief answer.

(1) It is not true that all charities are tax free. Tax authorities in most countries have a list of charities which are tax free. For western countries, most of these tax free charities belong to the western world. For sure SKCH is not one of those. I run an accountancy and I can at least assure you that this is the case in all Scandinavian countries and at least in 10 other European countries too. So SKCH did this for the sake of hospital and to assure an incoming income flow.
(2) When they invested this money, they declared it in their accounts. And the terms of investment agreement is an audited document. Even their auditors had confirmed the terms then. And if you look at the deal, investment was secured by securing the principal amount and by trading in dollars and not in rupees. Investment at the time of doing it, and return of funds at the time of their return, are taken in to yearly "audited" accounts. And are published then and now on their web page.

(3) Don't call Musharif clean for God sake. It is him who agreed to NRO which wrote off PPP era corruption cases woth 8000 billion, only to aid his rule. He has houses worth $35 m in Dubai and central London, do you think his salary of life time could even buy a 10th of it?

(4) Even if Musharaf wanted to, he could never find investments hidden behind offshore companies in places like panama where identifications have been secured layer after layer after layer. Had it not been for a Panaman legal firm who itself aids customers to establish these companies, one would need full fledg CIA project to unearth this.

(5) Musharaf did start investigations against them, thats why they were made to pay one billion of loans by selling property. And that's why Ishaq Dar gave statement of laundring money on Sharif's behalf. But then Saudi family came and took them away which Musharaf could not resist.

Last but not least, Musharaf was biggest b****d ever ruled Pakistan. If you just consider three things, you may change your mind about him. (1) It is not possible that ISI did not know then that MQM was working for RAW. So just for strengthning his rule he let them do that, kill thousands and establish Bhata factories. (2) NRO (3) Talban
In Pakistan charities are wholly tax free, and that's all that matters. SKMH off-shore accounts were created to hide the fact that SKMH money is being gambled in speculative real estate investments.


I agree with you that Musharraf was politically corrupt and that's what my point is against IK. But I have yet to see people call Musharraf financially corrupt, you're now just saying that to cover-up for IK's off-shore accounts stunt. Musharraf earn a lot of money from his lecture circuit or so he tells us.


Please provide link of where Musharraf made Nawaz pay one billion. Ishaq Dar's statement was made under duress, a duress caused by a person who we both agree was politically corrupt. So this should clear it up for you.
 

دوسرا_سوال

Minister (2k+ posts)
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Sir, how do you trust him, when there are quiet a few evidences to prove him wrong, like
1. Kalssom aunty siad in 2000 that they purchased those flats as their kids were studying there.
2. Sadiq-al-farooq admitted few years ago on a talk show.
3. Old BBC doumantry showing same flats on sharif family's name.
4. Raymond Baker's book published in 2005 gave same companies and flats link to sharif family at that time.
and many more......

mian sb was convicted for false assets declaration and tax evasion during mush govt, Ishaq Dar's confessional state was also recorded during mush govt, but then mush did an NRO and none of the cases were investigated.
Brother, I have said it that I don't find Hussain's explanations even a little bit convincing. So, I agree that there is a very strong chance that these properties existed in 90s and everyone knew about him.


Question is that why was Musharraf a 16 year old girl that Amreeka convinced him for NRO? Why did he not do the investigation then? Why did people like you not jump up and down at that time about this? Why jump up and down now? If you were sleeping then, (even though you guys keep repeating that almost all 20 karor Pakistanis have eaten dinner in those Park Lane apartments), then you should go back to your sleep now too, because, newsflash, when Musharraf being very anti-Nawaz couldn't do anything about it when the time was right, then forget about it for something to happen about it now.
 

دوسرا_سوال

Minister (2k+ posts)
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He never did that and you know that very well.
May you have the curse of those thousands who are suffering from cancer.
Brother, kindly relax, and please don't curse me, I'm very scared of curses because my belief in those things is very strong.


Oh no wait, I don't have a belief system. Thank god.


Now for your real point, yes, IK used off-shore accounts to invest in dodgy real-estate deals with money earmarked for SKMH donations. Yessir, it happened.
 

Shahid Abassi

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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Look my friend, lets be fair and not take sides. And also lets be practical too.


At the point with PMLN govt. in power, we will never get the answers to these questions. But, there was a time when these questions, along with Zardari's US$60 million could have been sorted out. At that time, one of the most financially upright person was in command of Pakistan and yet he could not do a small investigation on Nawaz's property in London? WHY??


Hussain has given an explanation, that the money came from Saudi Banks, it happened after the 1999 coup and it is all tax-paid legal money. Now, I don't believe it to be true for a moment, but I can't claim him to be wrong because I have no evidence otherwise. The only person who could have gotten the right investigation was Musharraf at that time or if the agencies have any evidence today, then they should release them to public. Otherwise, we are just randomly jumping up and down in an internet forum and achieving nothing.


I just can't believe that so many anchors are saying today that the knowledge of Nawaz's property in London has been known since 90s but no action was taken against him all this time including Musharraf's tenure!

Yes you have evidence. Panama legal firm leaks, show that companies were established in 1993 and 1994 by Sharifs and not since they got loans from Saudi banks as they tell. Also from your own account, why Musharaf did not investigate their appartments in 1999? So you very well know that these properties were bought long before selling Saudi steel mills and getting Saudi loans. Actually that bought the park lane apartment in 2000.

No anchor is saying that the properties are known since 90s. They are saying companies were established in 90s.
 

ranaji

President (40k+ posts)
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Zaroor woh tapes laa o IK ko yeh challenge karna chahi a ke zaroor Tapes lao maggar Nooray Button ko Waar ke rakh daina One traffic wali jaggah koui haraaamday koi choi Iftkhar nahi bacha sakaay gaa haraamdaay bhi expose honay wala hai jo abb takk isko tahafuz dai raha hai saaraay waar daaay jaingaay
 

Shahid Abassi

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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IT is all just a tip of iceberg. Just wait and see what else come out. Panama leaks say they have only given out 10% of the information. Rest will come out soon. And it is only Panama. There are many offshore destinations.
 

Shahid Abassi

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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At last we came their where N-league supporters do not debate with reasoning and don't accept valid points. I mention them again. For God sake on one hand you have stolen money from the nation and taken for personal gains and hidden. On the other hand may be a bad decision or bad investment where they did not lose anything. AND IT WAS NOT FOR PERSONAL GAIN. and mentioned in accounts. And money trail is there too.


In Pakistan charities are wholly tax free, and that's all that matters. If it is about this crime that SKCH should only had invested in Pakistan and not abroad then I can't argue. But most of the money to SKCH do come from abroad. SKMH off-shore accounts were created to hide the fact that SKMH money is being gambled in speculative real estate investments. When they invested this money, they declared it in their accounts. And the terms of investment agreement is an audited document. Even their auditors had confirmed the terms then. SEARCH FOR THEIR ACCOUNTS.


I agree with you that Musharraf was politically corrupt and that's what my point is against IK. But I have yet to see people call Musharraf financially corrupt, you're now just saying that to cover-up for IK's off-shore accounts stunt. He has houses worth $35 m in Dubai and central London, do you think his salary of life time could even buy a 10th of it. Let me not name his bank accounts and newly built castle in Chak Shehzad?Musharraf earn a lot of money from his lecture circuit or so he tells us. Even if you look at Bil Clinton's statement, he did not earn that much money from lectures which could buy this property.
AND Mushi bought these two houses in Dubai and London even before he retired and giving lectures.


Please provide link of where Musharraf made Nawaz pay one billion. Ishaq Dar's statement was made under duress, a duress caused by a person who we both agree was politically corrupt. So this should clear it up for you.
 
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ahameed

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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Sir, who told you that SKMH has offshore accounts? Please share the link!
In Pakistan charities are wholly tax free, and that's all that matters. SKMH off-shore accounts were created to hide the fact that SKMH money is being gambled in speculative real estate investments.


I agree with you that Musharraf was politically corrupt and that's what my point is against IK. But I have yet to see people call Musharraf financially corrupt, you're now just saying that to cover-up for IK's off-shore accounts stunt. Musharraf earn a lot of money from his lecture circuit or so he tells us.


Please provide link of where Musharraf made Nawaz pay one billion. Ishaq Dar's statement was made under duress, a duress caused by a person who we both agree was politically corrupt. So this should clear it up for you.
 
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Sarfraz1122

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Tape... Tape.. Tape

Oh the nostradamus-esque crazy who over-reads too much into things.... I don't blame you, my friend, carry on your craziness.


It seems to be mysterious beacuse it's incomplete...as i don,t want to write details..
Time will decide..
U seem to be rational but here u are most probably wrong..