The US edges closer to invading Pakistan

QaiserMirza

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
THE US EDGES CLOSER TO INVADING PAKISTAN


http://pakpotpourri2.wordpress.com/2010/10/05/the-us-edges-closer-to-invading-pakistan/
By: Eric Margolis
This writer has been warning for years that US and NATO efforts to defeat resistance to Western occupation by Afghanistans fierce Pashtun tribes would eventually lead to spreading the conflict into neighboring Pakistan, a nation of 175 million.

Weve seen it all before in Vietnam. It was then called, mission creep.
The focus of the Afghan War is clearly shifting south into Pakistan, drawing that nation and the United States forces ever closer to a direct confrontation. This grim development was as predictable as it was inevitable.

This weeks fevered warnings from Washington of supposedly imminent terrorist attacks in Europe may be aimed at justifying intensifying US military operations against Pakistan. If attacks do come in Europe, they will most likely be linked to anti-French militant groups in North Africa and the Sahara nothing at all to do with Afghanistan or Pakistan.

Last week, Pakistan temporarily closed the main US/NATO supply route from Karachi to the Afghan border at Torkham after the killing of three Pakistani soldiers by US helicopter gunships. Three US/NATO fuel supply convoys were burned by anti-American militants.

Eighty percent of the supplies of the US-led forces in Afghanistan come up this long, difficult route. Along the way, the US pays large bribes to Pakistani officials, local warlords, and to Taliban. The cost of a gallon of gas delivered to US units in Afghanistan has risen to $800.

US helicopter gunships have staged at least four attacks on Pakistan this past week alone, in addition to the mounting number of strikes by CIA drones that are inflicting heavy casualties on civilians and tribal militants alike. US Special Forces and CIA-run Afghan mercenaries are also increasingly active along Pakistans northwest frontier.

Pakistans feeble, discredited government has long closed its eyes to CIAs drone attacks. Washington does not even seek permission for the raids or give advance warning to Islamabad. Pakistans media claims over 90% of the casualties in US air raids are civilians.

The failing government in Islamabad is caught between two fires. Pakistanis are furious and humiliated by the American attacks. Each new assault further undermines the inept, US-installed Zardari government. Even Interior Minister Rehman Malik, the governments strongman, protested last weeks US attacks.

But Pakistan is on the edge of economic collapse after its devastating floods. Islamabad is now totally reliant on $2 billion annual US aid, plus tens of millions more black payments from CIA. Washington has given Islamabad $10 billion since 2001, most of which goes to renting 140,000 Pakistani troops to support the US-led Afghan war. CIA also has 3,000 mercenaries operating inside Pakistan.

As Osama bin Laden just pointed out in a new audio tape, the Muslim nations have been derelict in coming to Pakistans aid. He blamed the massive flooding in Pakistan on global warming.

An influential former Pakistani chief of staff, Gen. Mirza Aslam Beg, just demanded Pakistans air force shoot down US drones and helicopters violating his nations sovereignty. His sentiments are widely shared in Pakistans increasingly angry military.
Pakistans senior generals are being blasted as American stooges by some of the media and are losing respect among Pakistanis. A video this week of the execution of six civilians by army troops has further damaged the armys good name.

However, Washingtons view is very different. Pakistan is increasingly branded insubordinate, ungrateful for billions in aid, and a potential enemy of US regional interests. Many Americans consider Pakistan more of a foe than ally. The limited US financial response to Pakistans flood was a sign of that nations poor repute in North America.

Fears are growing in Washington and in Europe that the nine-year Afghan War may be lost. American popular opinion has turned against the war. The Pentagon fears a failure in Afghanistan will humiliate the US military and undermine Americas international power. In short, just what happened to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.

Americas foreign policy establishment is venting its anger and frustration over the failing Afghan War by lashing out at Pakistan and, as well, the US-installed Karzai regime in Kabul.

Pakistans President, Asif Ali Zardari, is seen in Washington as hopeless and incompetent. Full US attention is now on Pakistans military, the de facto government, and its respected but embattled commander, Gen. Ashfaq Kayani, whose tenure was just extended under US pressure. Kayani is still regarded as an asset by Washington. But like Zardari, he is caught between American demands and outraged Pakistanis plus concerns about the threat from India and Delhis machinations in Afghanistan. The recent upsurge of violence in Indian-ruled Kashmir has intensified these dangerous tensions between nuclear-armed India and Pakistan.

The neoconservatives in Washington and their media allies again claim Pakistan is a grave threat to US interests and to Israel. Pakistan must be declawed and dismembered, insist the neocons. Pakistans nuclear arsenal is reportedly being targeted for seizure or elimination by US Special Forces.

There is also talk in Washington of dividing Afghanistan into Pashtun, Tajik and Uzbek mini-states, as the US has done in Iraq, Could Pakistan be next for this divide and conquer treatment? Little states are easier to rule or intimidate than big ones. Many Pakistanis believe the United States is bent on dismembering their nation. Some polls show Pakistanis now regard the United States as a greater enemy than India.

Now that America is in full mid-term election frenzy, expect more calls for tougher US military action in AfPak. Already unpopular politicians are terrified of being branded soft on terrorism and failing to maximally support US military campaigns. Flag waving replaces sober thought.

If polls are right and Republicans achieve a major win, its likely there will be more and deeper US air and land attacks into Pakistan. The Pentagon is convinced it can still defeat resistance by Taliban and its allies if only we can go after their sanctuaries in Pakistan, as one general told me.

Where have we heard this before? Why in Cambodia and Laos, thats where, during the Vietnam War. Frustrated US commanders expanded the war into Cambodia and Laos to go after Communist base camps. The war spread; these two small nations were largely destroyed, but the war was ultimately lost.

Victory in war is achieved by concentration of forces, not spreading them ever thinner and wider.

But our imperial generals seem determined to blunder into a nation of 175 million hostile people without any clear strategy. Unable to subdue the Pashtun tribes of Afghanistan, they are now attacking the Pashtun tribes of Pakistan. America does not need more enemies.

(Eric S. Margolis is an award-winning, internationally syndicated columnist. His articles appear in the New York Times, the International Herald Tribune, the Los Angeles Times, Times of London, the Gulf Times, the Khaleej Times and other news sites in Asia.He is a regular contributor to The Huffington Post, Lew Rockwell and Big Eye. He appears as an expert on foreign affairs on CNN, BBC, France 2, France 24, Fox News, CTV and CBC).







 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
What will happen if US invade Pakistan?

They will attack at Pakhtoon Khah and Balochistan ..

But we are friends of US.

Is it possible that a beggar and rich are friends.....I think no and never.
 

Night_Hawk

Siasat.pk - Blogger
THE US EDGES CLOSER TO INVADING PAKISTAN


http://pakpotpourri2.wordpress.com/2010/10/05/the-us-edges-closer-to-invading-pakistan/
By: Eric Margolis
This writer has been warning for years that US and NATO efforts to defeat resistance to Western occupation by Afghanistans fierce Pashtun tribes would eventually lead to spreading the conflict into neighboring Pakistan, a nation of 175 million.

Weve seen it all before in Vietnam. It was then called, mission creep.

The focus of the Afghan War is clearly shifting south into Pakistan, drawing that nation and the United States forces ever closer to a direct confrontation. This grim development was as predictable as it was inevitable.
This weeks fevered warnings from Washington of supposedly imminent terrorist attacks in Europe may be aimed at justifying intensifying US military operations against Pakistan. If attacks do come in Europe, they will most likely be linked to anti-French militant groups in North Africa and the Sahara nothing at all to do with Afghanistan or Pakistan.


Last week, Pakistan temporarily closed the main US/NATO supply route from Karachi to the Afghan border at Torkham after the killing of three Pakistani soldiers by US helicopter gunships. Three US/NATO fuel supply convoys were burned by anti-American militants.
Eighty percent of the supplies of the US-led forces in Afghanistan come up this long, difficult route. Along the way, the US pays large bribes to Pakistani officials, local warlords, and to Taliban. The cost of a gallon of gas delivered to US units in Afghanistan has risen to $800.


US helicopter gunships have staged at least four attacks on Pakistan this past week alone, in addition to the mounting number of strikes by CIA drones that are inflicting heavy casualties on civilians and tribal militants alike. US Special Forces and CIA-run Afghan mercenaries are also increasingly active along Pakistans northwest frontier.

Pakistans feeble, discredited government has long closed its eyes to CIAs drone attacks. Washington does not even seek permission for the raids or give advance warning to Islamabad. Pakistans media claims over 90% of the casualties in US air raids are civilians.
The failing government in Islamabad is caught between two fires. Pakistanis are furious and humiliated by the American attacks. Each new assault further undermines the inept, US-installed Zardari government. Even Interior Minister Rehman Malik, the governments strongman, protested last weeks US attacks.


But Pakistan is on the edge of economic collapse after its devastating floods. Islamabad is now totally reliant on $2 billion annual US aid, plus tens of millions more black payments from CIA. Washington has given Islamabad $10 billion since 2001, most of which goes to renting 140,000 Pakistani troops to support the US-led Afghan war. CIA also has 3,000 mercenaries operating inside Pakistan.

As Osama bin Laden just pointed out in a new audio tape, the Muslim nations have been derelict in coming to Pakistans aid. He blamed the massive flooding in Pakistan on global warming.

An influential former Pakistani chief of staff, Gen. Mirza Aslam Beg, just demanded Pakistans air force shoot down US drones and helicopters violating his nations sovereignty. His sentiments are widely shared in Pakistans increasingly angry military.
Pakistans senior generals are being blasted as American stooges by some of the media and are losing respect among Pakistanis. A video this week of the execution of six civilians by army troops has further damaged the armys good name.

However, Washingtons view is very different. Pakistan is increasingly branded insubordinate, ungrateful for billions in aid, and a potential enemy of US regional interests. Many Americans consider Pakistan more of a foe than ally. The limited US financial response to Pakistans flood was a sign of that nations poor repute in North America.

Fears are growing in Washington and in Europe that the nine-year Afghan War may be lost. American popular opinion has turned against the war. The Pentagon fears a failure in Afghanistan will humiliate the US military and undermine Americas international power. In short, just what happened to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.

Americas foreign policy establishment is venting its anger and frustration over the failing Afghan War by lashing out at Pakistan and, as well, the US-installed Karzai regime in Kabul.

Pakistans President, Asif Ali Zardari, is seen in Washington as hopeless and incompetent. Full US attention is now on Pakistans military, the de facto government, and its respected but embattled commander, Gen. Ashfaq Kayani, whose tenure was just extended under US pressure. Kayani is still regarded as an asset by Washington. But like Zardari, he is caught between American demands and outraged Pakistanis plus concerns about the threat from India and Delhis machinations in Afghanistan. The recent upsurge of violence in Indian-ruled Kashmir has intensified these dangerous tensions between nuclear-armed India and Pakistan.

The neoconservatives in Washington and their media allies again claim Pakistan is a grave threat to US interests and to Israel. Pakistan must be declawed and dismembered, insist the neocons. Pakistans nuclear arsenal is reportedly being targeted for seizure or elimination by US Special Forces.

There is also talk in Washington of dividing Afghanistan into Pashtun, Tajik and Uzbek mini-states, as the US has done in Iraq, Could Pakistan be next for this divide and conquer treatment? Little states are easier to rule or intimidate than big ones. Many Pakistanis believe the United States is bent on dismembering their nation. Some polls show Pakistanis now regard the United States as a greater enemy than India.

Now that America is in full mid-term election frenzy, expect more calls for tougher US military action in AfPak. Already unpopular politicians are terrified of being branded soft on terrorism and failing to maximally support US military campaigns. Flag waving replaces sober thought.

If polls are right and Republicans achieve a major win, its likely there will be more and deeper US air and land attacks into Pakistan. The Pentagon is convinced it can still defeat resistance by Taliban and its allies if only we can go after their sanctuaries in Pakistan, as one general told me.

Where have we heard this before? Why in Cambodia and Laos, thats where, during the Vietnam War. Frustrated US commanders expanded the war into Cambodia and Laos to go after Communist base camps. The war spread; these two small nations were largely destroyed, but the war was ultimately lost.

Victory in war is achieved by concentration of forces, not spreading them ever thinner and wider.

But our imperial generals seem determined to blunder into a nation of 175 million hostile people without any clear strategy. Unable to subdue the Pashtun tribes of Afghanistan, they are now attacking the Pashtun tribes of Pakistan. America does not need more enemies.

(Eric S. Margolis is an award-winning, internationally syndicated columnist. His articles appear in the New York Times, the International Herald Tribune, the Los Angeles Times, Times of London, the Gulf Times, the Khaleej Times and other news sites in Asia.He is a regular contributor to The Huffington Post, Lew Rockwell and Big Eye. He appears as an expert on foreign affairs on CNN, BBC, France 2, France 24, Fox News, CTV and CBC).








Very nice article, we all should read it.
 

rana14801

Senator (1k+ posts)
we must understand that our army is under a civilian govt. people have voted for them and chief of army cannot take indep decisions.he may react if there is total failure of civil govt and AZADEE is at stake.on one side we frighten the army of serious consequences under article 6 of constitution and on the other hand we expect them to such actions indep.secondly it is the political govt to have more tough decisions and policies. if they fail and (God forbid) tough time comes on to nation i m sure our army will surely come up to the expectations of people but with the help of people on their back INSHA ALLAH . US will never take PANGA with our nation.they know what all we r capable of. i m sure that some of our neuc assets must be very safe to strike back. plz remember that Gen. Kiyani never asked for any extension but present govt has granted him a full term and on this extension what our PM had said plz remember his words as well.Pakistan will stay in this world Insha Allah.
 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
THE US EDGES CLOSER TO INVADING PAKISTAN


http://pakpotpourri2.wordpress.com/2010/10/05/the-us-edges-closer-to-invading-pakistan/
By: Eric Margolis
This writer has been warning for years that US and NATO efforts to defeat resistance to Western occupation by Afghanistan’s fierce Pashtun tribes would eventually lead to spreading the conflict into neighboring Pakistan, a nation of 175 million.

We’ve seen it all before in Vietnam. It was then called, “mission creep.”
The focus of the Afghan War is clearly shifting south into Pakistan, drawing that nation and the United States forces ever closer to a direct confrontation. This grim development was as predictable as it was inevitable.

This week’s fevered warnings from Washington of supposedly imminent terrorist attacks in Europe may be aimed at justifying intensifying US military operations against Pakistan. If attacks do come in Europe, they will most likely be linked to anti-French militant groups in North Africa and the Sahara – nothing at all to do with Afghanistan or Pakistan.

Last week, Pakistan temporarily closed the main US/NATO supply route from Karachi to the Afghan border at Torkham after the killing of three Pakistani soldiers by US helicopter gunships. Three US/NATO fuel supply convoys were burned by anti-American militants.

Eighty percent of the supplies of the US-led forces in Afghanistan come up this long, difficult route. Along the way, the US pays large bribes to Pakistani officials, local warlords, and to Taliban. The cost of a gallon of gas delivered to US units in Afghanistan has risen to $800.

US helicopter gunships have staged at least four attacks on Pakistan this past week alone, in addition to the mounting number of strikes by CIA drones that are inflicting heavy casualties on civilians and tribal militants alike. US Special Forces and CIA-run Afghan mercenaries are also increasingly active along Pakistan’s northwest frontier.

Pakistan’s feeble, discredited government has long closed its eyes to CIA’s drone attacks. Washington does not even seek permission for the raids or give advance warning to Islamabad. Pakistan’s media claims over 90% of the casualties in US air raids are civilians.

The failing government in Islamabad is caught between two fires. Pakistanis are furious and humiliated by the American attacks. Each new assault further undermines the inept, US-installed Zardari government. Even Interior Minister Rehman Malik, the government’s strongman, protested last week’s US attacks.

But Pakistan is on the edge of economic collapse after its devastating floods. Islamabad is now totally reliant on $2 billion annual US aid, plus tens of millions more “black” payments from CIA. Washington has given Islamabad $10 billion since 2001, most of which goes to renting 140,000 Pakistani troops to support the US-led Afghan war. CIA also has 3,000 mercenaries operating inside Pakistan.

As Osama bin Laden just pointed out in a new audio tape, the Muslim nations have been derelict in coming to Pakistan’s aid. He blamed the massive flooding in Pakistan on global warming.

An influential former Pakistani chief of staff, Gen. Mirza Aslam Beg, just demanded Pakistan’s air force shoot down US drones and helicopters violating his nation’s sovereignty. His sentiments are widely shared in Pakistan’s increasingly angry military.
Pakistan’s senior generals are being blasted as “American stooges” by some of the media and are losing respect among Pakistanis. A video this week of the execution of six civilians by army troops has further damaged the army’s good name.

However, Washington’s view is very different. Pakistan is increasingly branded insubordinate, ungrateful for billions in aid, and a potential enemy of US regional interests. Many Americans consider Pakistan more of a foe than ally. The limited US financial response to Pakistan’s flood was a sign of that nation’s poor repute in North America.

Fears are growing in Washington and in Europe that the nine-year Afghan War may be lost. American popular opinion has turned against the war. The Pentagon fears a failure in Afghanistan will humiliate the US military and undermine America’s international power. In short, just what happened to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.

America’s foreign policy establishment is venting its anger and frustration over the failing Afghan War by lashing out at Pakistan and, as well, the US-installed Karzai regime in Kabul.

Pakistan’s President, Asif Ali Zardari, is seen in Washington as hopeless and incompetent. Full US attention is now on Pakistan’s military, the de facto government, and its respected but embattled commander, Gen. Ashfaq Kayani, whose tenure was just extended under US pressure. Kayani is still regarded as an “asset” by Washington. But like Zardari, he is caught between American demands and outraged Pakistanis – plus concerns about the threat from India and Delhi’s machinations in Afghanistan. The recent upsurge of violence in Indian-ruled Kashmir has intensified these dangerous tensions between nuclear-armed India and Pakistan.

The neoconservatives in Washington and their media allies again claim Pakistan is a grave threat to US interests and to Israel. Pakistan must be declawed and dismembered, insist the neocons. Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal is reportedly being targeted for seizure or elimination by US Special Forces.

There is also talk in Washington of dividing Afghanistan into Pashtun, Tajik and Uzbek mini-states, as the US has done in Iraq, Could Pakistan be next for this divide and conquer treatment? Little states are easier to rule or intimidate than big ones. Many Pakistanis believe the United States is bent on dismembering their nation. Some polls show Pakistanis now regard the United States as a greater enemy than India.

Now that America is in full mid-term election frenzy, expect more calls for tougher US military action in “AfPak.” Already unpopular politicians are terrified of being branded “soft on terrorism” and failing to maximally support US military campaigns. Flag waving replaces sober thought.

If polls are right and Republicans achieve a major win, it’s likely there will be more and deeper US air and land attacks into Pakistan. The Pentagon is convinced it can still defeat resistance by Taliban and its allies “if only we can go after their sanctuaries in Pakistan,” as one general told me.

Where have we heard this before? Why in Cambodia and Laos, that’s where, during the Vietnam War. Frustrated US commanders expanded the war into Cambodia and Laos to go after Communist base camps. The war spread; these two small nations were largely destroyed, but the war was ultimately lost.

Victory in war is achieved by concentration of forces, not spreading them ever thinner and wider.

But our imperial generals seem determined to blunder into a nation of 175 million hostile people without any clear strategy. Unable to subdue the Pashtun tribes of Afghanistan, they are now attacking the Pashtun tribes of Pakistan. America does not need more enemies.

(Eric S. Margolis is an award-winning, internationally syndicated columnist. His articles appear in the New York Times, the International Herald Tribune, the Los Angeles Times, Times of London, the Gulf Times, the Khaleej Times and other news sites in Asia.He is a regular contributor to The Huffington Post, Lew Rockwell and Big Eye. He appears as an expert on foreign affairs on CNN, BBC, France 2, France 24, Fox News, CTV and CBC).








What happened to Eric, I know him since i came to Canada, in many of his articles he praised Pakistan when Pakistan fought Russians and when Pakistan made bomb he called it a Muslim bomb.

Hid deductions about invasion of Pakistan is only his opinion, I know neocons but they have tried their best and has tarnished American image, Before Iraq War american were considered saviors of this world from tyranny, from oppression and was considered as flag bearers of Democracy.

And still U.S. is as its [population at large is the true indicator of what america thinks and they know that war in Iraq was not just and now they think that america should get out of Afghanistan A.S.A.P.

Pakistan as a friend would be a better asset than as an enemy, and the lives that will be lost on both sides, My humble opinion is for U.S. to help bring good leader on top in Pakistan and with their diligence, honesty and truthful nature, America can achieve more than it can with war.

It is an humble opinion and one that promotes peace and saves lives and honor of both U.S. and Pakistan and also will win the hearts and minds of people both Nations.

Indians on the other hands would love that america goes to war with Pakistan and it can be seen on this thread in the light of Indians, but they are fool hardy and blinded by their hatred for Pakistan.

May Allah S.W.T, help mankind to see the light and to save the lives and to promote decency and goodness allover the troubled world. Ameen
 
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gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
dekho Allah kis tarah madad kartey hain.

Ub tak to Pakistan ko bachaya hai. Remember Pak media was talking about complete dismembering of Pak earlier this year. All that has been quashed so far. May Allah continue to help us, Ameen
 

Night_Hawk

Siasat.pk - Blogger
dekho Allah kis tarah madad kartey hain.

Ub tak to Pakistan ko bachaya hai. Remember Pak media was talking about complete dismembering of Pak earlier this year. All that has been quashed so far. May Allah continue to help us, Ameen

Aameen. .
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
dekho Allah kis tarah madad kartey hain.
Ub tak to Pakistan ko bachaya hai. Remember Pak media was talking about complete dismembering of Pak earlier this year. All that has been quashed so far. May Allah continue to help us, Ameen

Allah only help those help Him, I believe we are given respite may be we turn towards Him
 

simple_and_peacefull

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Pakistan independence was on 27th Ramadan. It's bless night for all Muslims and so for Pakistan. No one can finish Pakistan. Pakistan got freedom in the name of Islam .
 

Imavailable

MPA (400+ posts)
dekho Allah kis tarah madad kartey hain.

Ub tak to Pakistan ko bachaya hai. Remember Pak media was talking about complete dismembering of Pak earlier this year. All that has been quashed so far. May Allah continue to help us, Ameen

Everyone should also know that Pak Army is always supported by the Nation Alhamdulillah at the frontline during these situation...That's why it is not easy to invade Pakistan.. These GORAS call us EXTREMISTS only becayse we love our religion,country at any cost....See our History
 

drkjke

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
pakistan has been invaded actually already.but unlike the case of afghanistan and iraq where people and rulers resisted us attacks in pakistan our civil and army leaders are already in american,s pockets.so they dont need to do an actual attack per se.remember that
our leaders are helping american zionists from inside and our arms and even nuclear weapons are no longer in muslims control .so american zionists do not need to do an open attack or organised attack like in iraq and afghanistan ,where the rulers were atleast a bit loyal to their own countries.
the fact is that pakistan is more occupied by americans than afghanistan or irqa ever were.for example islamabad and other pakistani cities are full of black water agents and american marines and CIA agents who roam openly without any hesitation.same americans do most of the blasts in pakistan which are later labelled on taliban...
on other hand recently the afghanistan government under hamid kerzai has ordered that all american aghencies like black water are to be unarmed and will be thrown out from afghanistan ,remember that hamid kerzai also is american puppet but he still has some small amount of honour or ghairat left while our civil and army rulers have long ago no honour or ghairat without any doubt,they sold it for dollars and their childrens future in america.
similarly an afghan girl killed 3 american soldiers recently when her house was attacked.americans ordered afghan government to hand over this girl to americans so they hang her ,afghan government flatly refused americans request!saying that they cant hand over an afghan woman to americans.than see our "brave pakistanis" example.they handed over dr aafia siddiqui to americans who never ever even hurt any american soldiers!
this shows only one thing.that honour or ghairat wise our nation and our leaders are bankrupt,this is because of lack of islam in this nation.
its bitter but true!
and thats why americans dont need an open attack on pakistan untill unless some islamist occupies pakistani government in future.otherwise at present americans every wish the pakistanis fulfill without question so why americans waste energy on attacking ?
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Nah hi Pakistan kisi nay banaya tha nah hi koi isay bchayaee ga. PakistanAllah (SWT) nay Banaya hay aur wohi us ko bchaayaee ga. Asbaab us nay pehlay hi paida farma diyaee hein. Jo mulk needle nahi baha sakta usay us nay Atomic Power bana diya hay. Just try be among the asbaab of Allah (SWT). What dying and sold nation Americans can do, whose innocent people don't even kno as to how they are sold out by the Satanist/Zionists. Yaqeen rakho Pakistan ko qiyamat say pehlay kuch nahi ho ga.
 

kashah

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
we must understand that our army is under a civilian govt. people have voted for them and chief of army cannot take indep decisions.he may react if there is total failure of civil govt and AZADEE is at stake.on one side we frighten the army of serious consequences under article 6 of constitution and on the other hand we expect them to such actions indep.secondly it is the political govt to have more tough decisions and policies. if they fail and (God forbid) tough time comes on to nation i m sure our army will surely come up to the expectations of people but with the help of people on their back INSHA ALLAH . US will never take PANGA with our nation.they know what all we r capable of. i m sure that some of our neuc assets must be very safe to strike back. plz remember that Gen. Kiyani never asked for any extension but present govt has granted him a full term and on this extension what our PM had said plz remember his words as well.Pakistan will stay in this world Insha Allah.
since when the generals started to worry about article 6, or constetution of pakistan? it was a very famuos great general of napakfouj who diclair that it is just a piece of useles paper he and his cronies inthe armed forces served US intrest wholeheartedly in afganistan, imposed four million afgan refugees, and drug and mafia culture in the country, for just afew dollers more, as far as article 6 goes, who has the power to point afinger at almighty napakfouj. history of the countrys 65 years is witness to this fact. poor general kayani was givin 3 years full term as ageneral with the presure and the blasing of the big bad US OF A. go and look for the facts before making this kind of half baked idias in ur head, go find the truth. this country is in this dire state thanks to the napakfoul.
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Nah hi Pakistan kisi nay banaya tha nah hi koi isay bchayaee ga. PakistanAllah (SWT) nay Banaya hay aur wohi us ko bchaayaee ga. Asbaab us nay pehlay hi paida farma diyaee hein. Jo mulk needle nahi baha sakta usay us nay Atomic Power bana diya hay. Just try be among the asbaab of Allah (SWT). What dying and sold nation Americans can do, whose innocent people don't even kno as to how they are sold out by the Satanist/Zionists. Yaqeen rakho Pakistan ko qiyamat say pehlay kuch nahi ho ga.

bey shak

ghuzwa-e-hind to hamrey faujion key hathon hona hai na!

Dajjal paida ho chuka hai. Ub waqt qareeb hai qyamat ka.

Allah hum subho musalman ki maut iman key sath dey Ameen.
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
since when the generals started to worry about article 6, or constetution of pakistan? it was a very famuos great general of napakfouj who diclair that it is just a piece of useles paper he and his cronies inthe armed forces served US intrest wholeheartedly in afganistan, imposed four million afgan refugees, and drug and mafia culture in the country, for just afew dollers more, as far as article 6 goes, who has the power to point afinger at almighty napakfouj. history of the countrys 65 years is witness to this fact. poor general kayani was givin 3 years full term as ageneral with the presure and the blasing of the big bad US OF A. go and look for the facts before making this kind of half baked idias in ur head, go find the truth. this country is in this dire state thanks to the napakfoul.

You should go back to your f** India or where ever the shit you are from.

Nobody is more napak than you. After shitting this morning, did you use toilette paper or washed off with water?

Seems like you have some waste left that is affecting your brain....may be you should bend backwards and lick it clean


in my iggy bin you go napak admi, enjoy a bottle of cow cola for now. Will pour more tonight. By the way do you want diet or regular?


Update:
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Relax and enjoy down there
 
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canadian

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Pakistan is not Somalia.It's a Nation of 180 million strong who know how to defend their Country. Even a country like US would not dare and I would not say anything about other countries who propagate false and misleading propa****a to undermine us.I can assure you Inshallah nothing will happen to Pakistan and we will put the last nail in these doomsayers coffins.Pakistanis have faith and conviction in their Country and are ready to sacrifice the last drop of blood for their beloved Country.Our forefathers got this Country after great sacrifices we will Inshallah defend and protect it for our future generations. PAKISTAN KA MATLAB KIA LAI LAHA ILLIL LA HO.Amen.
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Pakistan is not Somalia.It's a Nation of 180 million strong who know how to defend their Country. Even a country like US would not dare and I would not say anything about other countries who propagate false and misleading propa****a to undermine us.I can assure you Inshallah nothing will happen to Pakistan and we will put the last nail in these doomsayers coffins.Pakistanis have faith and conviction in their Country and are ready to sacrifice the last drop of blood for their beloved Country.Our forefathers got this Country after great sacrifices we will Inshallah defend and protect it for our future generations. PAKISTAN KA MATLAB KIA LAI LAHA ILLIL LA HO.Amen.

Takbeeeeeeer Allah-u-akbar. well said brother
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
This will happen , insha Allah.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
کیا تم نے نہیں دیکھا کہ تمہارے پروردگار نے ہاتھی والوں کے ساتھ کیا کیا (١) کیا ان کا داؤں غلط نہیں کیا؟ (گیا) (٢) اور ان پر جھلڑ کے جھلڑ جانور بھیجے (٣) جو ان پر کھنگر کی پتھریاں پھینکتے تھے (٤) تو ان کو ایسا کر دیا جیسے کھایا ہوا بھس (٥)
 

pangewaaz

Citizen
america should invade pakistan as soon as possible.situation in pakistaan orsning day by day, any delay in action could be disasterous for the world.pakistanies r not capable to hold and rule their country so world shuld help poor ppl of pakistan.if world fails than terrorist will take control in pakistan.so quick action required mr. obama..
 

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