The Situation of Middle East: Zaid Hamid

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
To our children who do not know the history of the Middle East and are surprised as to why we consider Bashar ul Asad a criminal and a murderer as well. As we said, we do not support US/Israel/Khawarij but Bashar is an equal criminal as well.

In 1970's, 80's, 90's of the last century, there were three Socialist, pro-Soviet Baathist governments in the Middle East. Iraq was ruled by Saddam, Syria by Hafiz ul Asad, father of Bashar and Libya was by Qaddafi. All 3 were Kafir governments, which hanged, killed, exiled hundreds of thousands of Muslims for demanding Islamic laws in their countries. All 3 governments supported war against Pakistan also, supporting terrorism of Al-Zulfiqar which was led by Bhutto's children -- Murtaza, Shahnawaz and Benazir. Thousands of people were killed in Pakistan by terrorism supported by these 3 criminals regimes.

At that time, Saddam was a friend of CIA, fighting against Iran also in the entire 80's but then became an enemy of CIA when Iraq invaded Kuwait and the first Gulf war started. CIA used Saddam to destroy Iran and then used him again to attack Middle East in first ad second gulf war and finally hanged him after 2004. If CIA has hanged Saddam does not mean that he was a good man. He was an equal criminal, idiot, traitor to the Millat and an enemy of Rasul Allah (sm). Exactly same is the case with Qaddafi and Bashar ul Asad. They are all useful idiots for the Kuffar -- sometimes side with the Soviets and sometimes with the US -- but firmly hold on to Kuffar system and slaughter Muslims ruthlessly.

You saw the end of Saddam and Qaddafi. Now the same fate stares Bashar. That does not mean CIA is right or Bashar is on Haqq. Both are criminals to the extreme.

Iran fully supported the CIA in destroying Saddam and today a pro-Iran government is in power in Iraq which is also CIA supported. So things are NEVER so clear as you simply try to present them. Similarly, Iran also fully supported CIA in destroying Afghan Taliban and today a pro-Iran government in Kabul is fully supported by CIA.

Same is the case with Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia has always been a CIA controlled country. All their policies follow what US tells them to. In some cases, as in Iraq and Afghanistan, Iran has done the same. So in reality, when it comes to sectarian differences or real politics, all countries do what is good for their interest without caring about the Ummah ! This is the painful fact.

So today, we have Saudi Arabia, CIA, Israel, US and NATO on one side and a known terrorist regime of Bashar, Iran and Russia on the other side. If Russia fights America, who would be on the right path ?? NO ONE !! When Iraqi Muslims fought with Irani Muslims, who was on the right path ?? NO ONE. When Iraqi Muslims and Kuwait Muslims fought with each other, who was on the right path ?? NO ONE.

The Syria crisis has divided the Muslim resistance movements as well. Hizbullah supports Bashar but Hamas is against Bashar.

This war in Syria is total fitnah for the Ummah where the Kuffar, Zionists, crusaders and Khawarij are taking advantage of the crimes of the Syrian government and the sectarian infighting within the Muslims. This is time of Fitnah, time of ******, time to stay in your homes and do lots of astaghfar.... Ya Allah Karam....

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modern.fakir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Indeed the Truth ...and some sheikh also warned that fitna would arise in the Middle east and its best if the people stay in their homes. At that point some idiots made fun of the sheikhs and called them names. Now the truth is apparent that by "staying at home" they meant "not joining any arab springs" which is the root cause of most of these evils as men and children are killed and the women are raped ...Astaghfirallah!
 
Global power is a strange phenomena. Al Qaida is enemy of USA in Pakistan, close ally/friend in Lebanon, Egypt and Syria. Muslim Government in Syria is fighting against Khawarjeen led by USA, Inshallah Allah will bless victory to Muslims and Khawarjeen will be brutally killed.
Pakistan is demolished and destroyed by Musharaf and Zardari politics. Nawaz Sharif want to do something good, but USA War College graduate COAS is hurdle. Jews son in law Mir Imran Khan Zanikhel is also playing dirty gamer. He want to keep Pakistan politically disturbed. For that huge investment is done in PTI Qadri Account Canada. So, per force Nawaz Sharif has to fallow Saudi Arabia and Military establishment instructions, will not support Syria. If supported, Jews son in law will stage dramas, USA directed Establishment will oust Nawaz Sharif out over continuous political crisis as in Egypt. See how, Jammat Islami(JI) played in hands of CIA to stage agitation against ZA Bhutto. JI is spitted by people of Pakistan for its filthy politics and now Pasha directed + Goldsmith Produced + Jews invested Burger Society (spoiled youth of Beacon House, Educator and Roots only) has taken over drama company of JI. Riaz Tekhadar channels ARY, SIN, SUNYA and SUCH are doing propaganda. Abou Jahil sons like Zahid Hamid, withouth any basic knowledge of military warfare and international strategy are fooling people with Goldsmith given script.
Inshalla Syria will win, People will struggle against western investment as brave people of Egypt are doing. Khawarjeen must be killed, even with use of Nuclear Bomb. Enough of innocent Muslims are killed and high time now!
 

Exiled-Pakistani

Minister (2k+ posts)
Mr. ZH Says:

"This war in Syria is total fitnah for the Ummah where the Kuffar, Zionists, crusaders and Khawarij are taking advantage of the crimes of the Syrian government and the sectarian infighting within the Muslims. This is time of Fitnah, time of ******, time to stay in your homes and do lots of astaghfar.... Ya Allah Karam...."

My comment:

It is little late for that which Mr. ZH is trying to imply here . The "Pakistani Spring" started on July 8, 20007 as Pakistani fouj massacred school children in Islamabad; since then it has cost fouj its Hosni Mubarak i.e. Parvez Musharaf. But what fouj started on that day will come to a logical conclusion which has now become an inevitability written on the wall. I don't think such b/s with sugar coating of religious jargon that you have posted will help.

My question is simple: why can't Pakistan emerge as a law abiding democracy like 200 other countries in the world, or at least like India for crying out loud. Why do fouj has to stick its finger in every matter.
 

karachiwala

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Looks to me like @wadaich and @modern.fakir are playing the same padri card of liking each others post. Also @wadaich why are using plurals? Or is it zh kazzab himself using avatar @wadaich?
 

Londoner/Lahori

Minister (2k+ posts)
mr. Zh says:

"this war in syria is total fitnah for the ummah where the kuffar, zionists, crusaders and khawarij are taking advantage of the crimes of the syrian government and the sectarian infighting within the muslims. This is time of fitnah, time of ******, time to stay in your homes and do lots of astaghfar.... Ya allah karam...."

my comment:

It is little late for that which mr. Zh is trying to imply here . The "pakistani spring" started on july 8, 20007 as pakistani fouj massacred school children in islamabad; since then it has cost fouj its hosni mubarak i.e. Parvez musharaf. But what fouj started on that day will come to a logical conclusion which has now become an inevitability written on the wall. I don't think such b/s with sugar coating of religious jargon that you have posted will help.

My question is simple: Why can't pakistan emerge as a law abiding democracy like 200 other countries in the world, or at least like india for crying out loud. Why do fouj has to stick its finger in every matter.
you are very simple man, the day d.i.khan jail break occured, same happened in libya, iraq, and yamen, approximately 2000 or more were freed, because cia & saudia were short of manpower in syria, paki army turned blind eye to it, for paki army thousends zoinest like sisi (egyptian general) are groomed by cia, mosad, & saudia, wathch out for next army chief of command, he will be like sisi for his masters. Enjoy the nooras for short time.

 

modern.fakir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Dude ....i dont get this ...you have clearly said that "You dont care" ...then why you worried about what me and wadaich do ?? ...what kind of third rate hypocrisy is this
??

Now even after that cherbi ka drum tahir ashrafi has been humiliated ...you are still all the more concerned ...what is the deal here ?? :lol::lol:...why are you so restless ? ?....Has the takfeeri fatwa comeback to haunt your conscience ???...You able to sleep at night without pills ?? ...Can we help in any way ?? [hilar][hilar]


Looks to me like @wadaich and @modern.fakir are playing the same padri card of liking each others post. Also @wadaich why are using plurals? Or is it zh kazzab himself using avatar @wadaich?
 

modern.fakir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Pakistan will do everything after removing this filth called democracy and erasing any last remnants of Secularism (bigsmile). This system and ideology has failed !

Mr. ZH Says:

"This war in Syria is total fitnah for the Ummah where the Kuffar, Zionists, crusaders and Khawarij are taking advantage of the crimes of the Syrian government and the sectarian infighting within the Muslims. This is time of Fitnah, time of ******, time to stay in your homes and do lots of astaghfar.... Ya Allah Karam...."

My comment:

It is little late for that which Mr. ZH is trying to imply here . The "Pakistani Spring" started on July 8, 20007 as Pakistani fouj massacred school children in Islamabad; since then it has cost fouj its Hosni Mubarak i.e. Parvez Musharaf. But what fouj started on that day will come to a logical conclusion which has now become an inevitability written on the wall. I don't think such b/s with sugar coating of religious jargon that you have posted will help.

My question is simple: why can't Pakistan emerge as a law abiding democracy like 200 other countries in the world, or at least like India for crying out loud. Why do fouj has to stick its finger in every matter.
 

Exiled-Pakistani

Minister (2k+ posts)
Mr. ZH:

You are calling democracy and secularism a filth (Naozubillah)?; these are the practices that Holy Prophet (pbuh) incorporated in the first written constitution of the world, which is called the Constitution of Medina? The Holy Prophet (pbuh) has set the parameters of secularism by acting on his constitution to the letter.

If you get any spare time from spreading your racism and self-serving sense of a praetorian state, then study the constitution of Medina.


Pakistan will do everything after removing this filth called democracy and erasing any last remnants of Secularism (bigsmile). This system and ideology has failed !
 

Exiled-Pakistani

Minister (2k+ posts)
I may be a simple man but I am aware of the inner workings of the fouj. You may be right below but your guess is as good as mine. My guess is that D.I jail break was let happened because of a pre-condition of negotiation by Taliban with Americans. The Syrian angle seems like a stretch.

you are very simple man, the day d.i.khan jail break occured, same happened in libya, iraq, and yamen, approximately 2000 or more were freed, because cia & saudia were short of manpower in syria, paki army turned blind eye to it, for paki army thousends zoinest like sisi (egyptian general) are groomed by cia, mosad, & saudia, wathch out for next army chief of command, he will be like sisi for his masters. Enjoy the nooras for short time.

 

modern.fakir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
An your blasphemizing My Akka's pbuh brilliant document for this filth called democracy and secularism which has no basis in Shariah.

You know the punishment for telling a lie on the Prophet pbuh right ?? :)

Where is it that you selected a Khalifah Like Hazrat Abu Bakr RA or Hazrat UMAR RA or Hazrat Usman Ra or Hazrat ALi RA...through this filth ?? ...Did they not form a Khilafat ??

Or do you know more about the treaty of Hudabiah then THEY DID ??(bigsmile)

Was not the Khalifah the head of the army, the spiritual religious leader and the political leader all in ONE ??...IN which democracy today is this the case ??

YOU lie with impunity ?? ..You think your piecemeal lies are a remedy ??

Come on prove me wrong !:lol::lol:

Mr. ZH:

You are calling democracy and secularism a filth (Naozubillah)?; these are the practices that Holy Prophet (pbuh) incorporated in the first written constitution of the world, which is called the Constitution of Medina? The Holy Prophet (pbuh) has set the parameters of secularism by acting on his constitution to the letter.

If you get any spare time from spreading your racism and self-serving sense of a praetorian state, then study the constitution of Medina.
 

Exiled-Pakistani

Minister (2k+ posts)
Your response is typical of an arrogant Jahil who blow their fuse and start spewing religious jargon. See my next post

An your blasphemizing My Akka's pbuh brilliant document for this filth called democracy and secularism which has no basis in Shariah.

You know the punishment for telling a lie on the Prophet pbuh right ?? :)

Where is it that you selected a Khalifah Like Hazrat Abu Bakr RA or Hazrat UMAR RA or Hazrat Usman Ra or Hazrat ALi RA...through this filth ?? ...Did they not form a Khilafat ??

Or do you know more about the treaty of Hudabiah then THEY DID ??(bigsmile)

Was not the Khalifah the head of the army, the spiritual religious leader and the political leader all in ONE ??...IN which democracy today is this the case ??

YOU lie with impunity ?? ..You think your piecemeal lies are a remedy ??

Come on prove me wrong !:lol::lol:
 

Ali raza babar

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Mr. ZH:

You are calling democracy and secularism a filth (Naozubillah)?; these are the practices that Holy Prophet (pbuh) incorporated in the first written constitution of the world, which is called the Constitution of Medina? The Holy Prophet (pbuh) has set the parameters of secularism by acting on his constitution to the letter.

If you get any spare time from spreading your racism and self-serving sense of a praetorian state, then study the constitution of Medina.

You have your Constitution as well , The Question is , Is it being Followed ? is it being Practiced ? No , True Form of Democracy can only be Established when The constitutions are fully Practiced and implemented not just treated as mere papers
 

Exiled-Pakistani

Minister (2k+ posts)
THE CONSTITUTION OF MEDINA

The constitution of Medina was established with an overwhelming agreement of the residents of Yathrib (Medina). If this is not democracy then what is?

The Constitution established the parameters that have become the hallmark of any modern state:


  • the security of the community (from internal and external threats)
  • religious freedoms (true secularism)
  • the role of Medina as a haram or sacred place (barring all violence and weapons) (the core purpose of any polity)
  • the security of women (mera Rasool azeem tar hay)
  • stable tribal relations within Medina (Domestic policy-Ministry of Internal Affairs in modern state)
  • a tax system for supporting the community in time of conflict (fiscal policy)
  • parameters for exogenous political alliances (Foreign policy)
  • a system for granting protection of individuals (human rights)
  • a judicial system for resolving disputes (law & order)
  • and also regulated the paying of blood money (the payment between families or tribes for the slaying of an individual in lieu of lex talionis). (justice and peace)

You see Mr. ZH, the model of the state that our Prophet (pbuh) established for us was based on the concepts of human rights, human dignity, peace, law & order, and justice with MUTUAL CONSULTATION.

This is absolutely contrary to the praetorian danda state run by flat footed bandmasters that you propose. This is the future of Pakistan and not the future that you propose based on your racism and hatred of 'other'.

Let Pakistan live in peace.
 
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ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I may be a simple man but I am aware of the inner workings of the fouj. You may be right below but your guess is as good as mine. My guess is that D.I jail break was let happened because of a pre-condition of negotiation by Taliban with Americans. The Syrian angle seems like a stretch.

About these jail breaks, did you ever think that jails are under federal jurisdictions and never in the history such jail beaks have taken place, so one is, that it was done by fitnas, two is what are these few hundred people going to-do that already is not being done, these crirminals have some one on the inside, I say even if Army knew about it, there was not enough time to get there, but i think higher ups were in on it and therefore they wanted Army to get a bad name by doing this despicable thing. read on and deduct some facts about how Arab's reacted to Turkish Armies and see what transpired. specially during WW1. and who sided with who.. picutue is clear for those who know the history.

All these Arab rulers were put in the place by those who won WW!, and were chosen those whom would be subservient. There was a big fight in mecca at the end and guess what was done by these rulers.

Perhaps the most famous individual to emerge from this part of the war of T.E. Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia), the British officer who helped the Arab revolt. In June 1916, Hussein, grand sherif of Mecca, proclaimed the revolt. An attack on Mecca was quickly successful, but the Turkish Garrison of Medina held out until the end of the war. Aided by Lawrence, the Arabs then harassed the Turks in Arabian. By 1918, the Arabs had cut off Medina, and were able to play a major part in General Allenby's final campaigns in Palestine and Syria, taking Damascus themselves. Lawrence resigned at the end of the campaign, in rightful indignation over the mistreatment of the Arabs by the British, who had promised the kingdom of Arabian to a series of candidates. Hussein himself had at one point declared himself King of the Arabs, and been promised the Hejaz (The Red Sea coast of Arabia), but eventually ended up as king of Transjordan.

Egypt and Palestine

The campaign in Palestine developed out of a desire to protect the Suez Canal, the vital artery of the British Empire. In January-February 1915 a Turkish army crossed the Sinai, and even managed to cross the canal before being driven back, and the threat of future attack tied down large numbers of troops. In the first half of 1916, the British extended their defences into the Sinai, and repulsed a major attack on their railhead (Battle of Rumani, 3 August 1916), and by the end of the year had reached El Arish, almost across the desert. On 8-9 January 1917 the battle of Magruntein or Rafa ended the Turkish presence in the Sinai, and left the British free to concentrate on Palestine. After two failed attacks on Gaza (1st Battle of Gaza, 26 March 1917 & 2nd Battle of Gaza, 17-19 April 1917), General Allenby was placed in command and ordered to take Jerusalem by Christmas. After reorganising the command structure, he won the 3rd Battle of Gaza (31 October 1917), forcing the Turks to retreat. Despite a strong Turkish defence, organised by General von Falkenhayn, Jerusalem fell on 9 December 1917. There he was forced to stop, as his force was weakened to reinforce the Western Front, but in September 1918 he was able to launch another attack. By this point the Turks had put in place a strong defended line, from Jaffa on the coast to the River Jordan, although the British outnumbered them. Keeping his plans secret, Allenby launched a concentrated attack on the coast, burst through the Turkish line, sent his cavalry into the hinterland, and used his infantry to sweep up the remains of the Turkish line (battle of Megiddo, 19-21 September 1918). The resulting pursuit northwards was only ended by the Turkish surrender (30 October 1918).

Gallipoli

Gallipoli, Naval attack, 1915) Gallipoli, Initial landings, 1915 Gallipoli, Suvia bay landings and Anzac breakout
The Gallipoli campaign was one of the great military disasters of the war. Control of the Dardanelles, the narrow sea lane connecting the Black Sea to the Mediterranean, was essential if the allies were to get any aid to Russia. With Turkish entry on the side of the Central Powers that access was cut. The initial allied plan was to run a fleet up the Dardanelles to Constantinople and force the passage at gunpoint. This was attempted early in 1915, but the attempt was abandoned on March 18 after three old battleships were sunk by mines, and when probably close to success. A new plan was hatched, this time a landing on the Gallipoli peninsular. The first landings were made on 25 April 1915, but by this time the Turks had had time to improve the defences of the area, and it soon turned into a smaller version of the Western Front. By the end of the year it was clear that the plan had failed, and from November the evacuation began, ending with a perfect evacuation of the last 35,000 men on 8-9 January 1916 without any losses, one of the few well executed elements of the campaign.
 
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Exiled-Pakistani

Minister (2k+ posts)
Our attitude towards our constitution, as a nation, is a direct result of the rule of a military mafia for over 55 years. This mafia has treated constitution worst than a toilet paper. This 55 years of vassalage has created a mindset which embodies itself in people like Zaid Hamid, who are against the concept of any equality of human beings in law and polity.

Insha Allah things will change. Thank God for social media, which has brought the view of modern world into the palm of every citizen in Pakistan. People like Zaid Hamid are dinosaurs who are trying to resuscitate a dying system with their obfuscation.


You have your Constitution as well , The Question is , Is it being Followed ? is it being Practiced ? No , True Form of Democracy can only be Established when The constitutions are fully Practiced and implemented not just treated as mere papers
 

Ali raza babar

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Our attitude towards our constitution, as a nation, is a direct result of the rule of a military mafia for over 55 years. This mafia has treated constitution worst than a toilet paper. This 55 years of vassalage has created a mindset which embodies itself in people like Zaid Hamid, who are against the concept of any equality of human beings in law and polity.

Insha Allah things will change. Thank God for social media, which has brought the view of modern world into the palm of every citizen in Pakistan. People like Zaid Hamid are dinosaurs who are trying to resuscitate a dying system with their obfuscation.
You , Yourself Called it a Dying system , Look Brother , The reason Military Took Over is Un Conscious Awaam. Where People are aware of their rights , Things like that cant happen , And can you name Even One Brilliant Politician After Quaid e Azam ? None , Liaqat Ali was one of the Most Stupid Persons among them , Bhutto was Arrogant and Egotistical Maniac , Bey Nazir , Look at the eras when she Ruled , I dont Need to say anything , And Worst of them All , Nawaz Shareef ?

This Parliamentary System is Made to Oppress and the Oppressed were the Colonial Regime Victims , Do you think we are free? We are far from Free,

Reason ? Look at your Judges , How they Dress ,....... This will give you an idea of what i am talking about.
 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Our attitude towards our constitution, as a nation, is a direct result of the rule of a military mafia for over 55 years. This mafia has treated constitution worst than a toilet paper. This 55 years of vassalage has created a mindset which embodies itself in people like Zaid Hamid, who are against the concept of any equality of human beings in law and polity.

Insha Allah things will change. Thank God for social media, which has brought the view of modern world into the palm of every citizen in Pakistan. People like Zaid Hamid are dinosaurs who are trying to resuscitate a dying system with their obfuscation.

first came Gen. Ayub, begged by people for Mr. Mirza calling himself a playboy, than Mr. Bhutto joined him and drafted and signed the Tashkent agreement, Election took place and mR. BHUTTOTOLD mUJEEB WHOWON THE ELECTIONS, AND I QUOTE, " TUM UDHAR, HUM IDHER." END OF WUOTE. Bhutto KNEW ABOUT mUJEEB WHAT WAS ARRESTED FOR AGARTALA SAZISH BUT HAD HIM FOCIBALY FREED BUT THAN WHEN HE WINS THE ELECTION TELL THE ELELCTED MEMBER IN WEST THAT ANY ONE WHO GOES TO NEGOTITIATE WITH EAT PAKISTANI ELECTED MEMBERS HE WILL BREAK THEIR LEGS, THAN CAME MUSHARRADF WHO STARTED TO READY TROOPS FOR KARGIL, n.sN KNEW ABOUT IT AS PICTURES OF HIMINSPECTING TROOPS GOING TO KARGIL ARE THERE FOR YOU TOI SEE. THAN N.S. UNDEWRPRESSURE FROM HIS LORDS DECIDED TO ABONDON IT, AN THAT IS WHEN HE TRIED TO FIRE MUSHARRAF BUT IT FIRED BACKAS n.s. TRIED TO STOP LANDING OF PIA IN KARACHI ENDANDEWRING THE LIVES OF 200 PAKISTANIS, n.s ALSO GAVE INTELLEGENCE TO INDIA ABOUT KARGIL WAR AS BEING Toronto I HEARD ON Indian RADIO A CONVERSTION BETWEEN PAKISTANI GENERAL ABOUT KARGIL, I CAN TELL YOU A LOT IN THE WAY OF TRUTH BUT LET US SEE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY FOR THIS EXPLANATION OF INSTANCES WHEN THEY HAPPENED.
 

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