The invisible soldiers of Islam

Geek

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Lately, we have been too depressed to notice a piece of real good news. Our very own ISI has been ranked the worlds top intelligence agency. And just in case one had never heard of the smashing lists website, a look at it would be worth its while. The ratings are done professionally. That the ISI carries out its primary mission forewarn external threats and counter covert operations reasonably well, must have counted, but no double agents or defectors, no one ever caught on camera, and all of this on a modest budget, seem to have clinched us the gold medal.
Only the other day the agency was complimented, even though back-handedly, to have helped a rag-tag militia in Afghanistan, frustrate the worlds mightiest military alliance, Nato. Calls for a double celebration, I suppose!
After the Soviets left Afghanistan, the US, our partner during the occupation, had a change of heart. Since we had misused our frontline status to upgrade our nukes, we had to be punished for this impertinence. Invoking Pressler (Amendment) should normally have sufficed; except for a problem. The ISI having played the lead role during the Afghan resistance helped no doubt from some of the best in the business was now raring to join the big league. An efficient secret service of suspect loyalty can become a pain in the neck. When General Brent Scowcroft, a former US national security adviser, publicly acknowledged that the ISIs assessment of Iraqi forces in Kuwait was better than theirs, it was time for the upstart to be cut to size.
Before it is killed, a dog is given a bad name, and the ISI was hence labelled a rogue organisation. In Afghanistan it was no longer helping a national resistance but building-up a client regime; if some religious literature found its way to the newly independent Central Asian Republics, it must be the ISI exporting regressive ideologies; and its support to the uprising in Indian-held Kashmir was but state-sponsored terrorism. And the baggage that the ISI carried because of its involvement in domestic politics an upshot of the militarys role in Pakistan made all this easier for
our detractors.
If the outfit withstood the onslaught and is again lauded as the best of its kind, it must have done something good. However, there is another reason that the ISI must be wooed, once more: it is Americas best bet to clinch a face-saving deal in Afghanistan. I have no idea what our super spooks have done to earn this recognition, but if there was any reality in the perception that the ISI has kept the Taliban in good shape against all odds, then at least in my reckoning it has done us all a big service. Without an effective resistance, the occupation of Afghanistan is not likely to be vacated. And unless that happened, our western borders would remain on the boil.
Intelligence agencies are not a panacea for all ills. They can at best ward off immediate threats and provide space for other organs of the state to find long-term remedies. Admittedly, it is the harder part and ours counts amongst the softer states. It would rather abdicate its duty to the ISI and then call it a state within a state, or do worse: bring an external intelligence agency under command of the interior ministry and send its spymaster abroad to face criminal charges.
How to deal with this mother of all threats is a different matter. For now, the ISI has other battles at hand, and would do well fighting them one at a time.


The invisible soldiers of Islam



 

JIJA_JI

Banned
Apne munh miyan mithu, List just one success of ISI in last 62 years.

Let me count the failures

1. Dhaka Failure
2. Afghanistan failure
3. Internal Security failure
4. Your nuclear trade secrets are all over.
5. Operation against india in nepal, kashmir and punjab, failure, failure, failure
6. Pakistan is almost at the brink of breakdown, the mother of all failures.
 

digitalzygot

Senator (1k+ posts)
Dhaka failure ?? Idiot it was corrupt bhutto that made sure we lose for his own gain/power, it had nothing to do with army or isi
Afghnistan failure?? Do you mean to say kicking russia's arse and now us/india/israel/nato.
Trade secrets ??? Hmmm meaning why the world is still desperate to know where our weapons are and howcome they are top notch far far better than india's.
Kashmir failure, punjab failure(khalistan)......do you smoke weed.
Brink of breakdown??hmmm last time i checked whole nation was donating and helping flood victims
 
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NO FEAR

Banned
Apne munh miyan mithu, List just one success of ISI in last 62 years.

Let me count the failures

1. Dhaka Failure
2. Afghanistan failure
3. Internal Security failure
4. Your nuclear trade secrets are all over.
5. Operation against india in nepal, kashmir and punjab, failure, failure, failure
6. Pakistan is almost at the brink of breakdown, the mother of all failures.

Endians dreaming of breakdown of Pakistan through 63 years , thats never gona happen.Long Live ISI.Proud of ISI
 

dil-se-desi

MPA (400+ posts)
Apne munh miyan mithu, List just one success of ISI in last 62 years.

Let me count the failures

1. Dhaka Failure
2. Afghanistan failure
3. Internal Security failure
4. Your nuclear trade secrets are all over.
5. Operation against india in nepal, kashmir and punjab, failure, failure, failure
6. Pakistan is almost at the brink of breakdown, the mother of all failures.


you forget to add more....achievements

spying and killing nawab bugti.......pushed balochi people to realize that they are not pakistani

killing muhazir by making fake maps of jinnapur......results ..muhajir got united (mqm)made karachi a HELL and sindhi nationalism arise.

hanging of bhutto...............and could not avoid benazir murder?????

double game with USA/NATO........see/wait what american will take revenge....after getting out from afghanistan

screwing up pathans and they created pak talibans and they are killing pak people

see one more great intelligence........how srilanka team was attacked during daylight in the heart of lahore and culprits never got caught.

keep glorifying your stupid people instead of making them accountable towards your people.......emotional foooooools!!!!!!!!
 

karachiwala

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Let me count the failures
Let me reply to your assertions.
1. Dhaka Failure
You got us there. We were stabbed in the back by our own people.
2. Afghanistan failure
Wake up - This is what failed USSR and you are saying ??? Be a man and when you say/write something please think before you go out. Your picture shows you as an educated man but then again you never know with the pictures do you??
3. Internal Security failure
Look who's talking? What happened to all the problems in India (including tsunamis) that you government has been blaming on ISI.
4. Your nuclear trade secrets are all over.
At least they are not been sold in Junk Yards like India.
5. Operation against india in nepal, kashmir and punjab, failure, failure, failure
Lets begin with Kashmir - an ongoing issue where India has failed miserable. Nepal is your baby and you cannot even handle that (MAY BE YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT INDIA WHEN YOU WROTE THIS PIECE) Punjab - an issue which is very much alive - your prime minister came to Canada and asked the government to stop the sikhs from continuing the liberation effort so there you have it WHERE DO THE WORSD FAILURE COME IN THIS PICTURE??? ,
6. Pakistan is almost at the brink of breakdown, the mother of all failures.
Say that to the Nagaland people and the scores of miltary and policemen who have been killed by Maoists. Your government still thinks this is the work of ISI.
 

digitalzygot

Senator (1k+ posts)
India has bigger bigger problems than Pakistan. Poverty, prostitution, freedom movements......list goes on and on...so focus on them
 

Night-Hawk

Senator (1k+ posts)
you forget to add more....achievements

spying and killing nawab bugti.......pushed balochi people to realize that they are not pakistani

killing muhazir by making fake maps of jinnapur......results ..muhajir got united (mqm)made karachi a hell and sindhi nationalism arise.

Hanging of bhutto...............and could not avoid benazir murder?????

Double game with usa/nato........see/wait what american will take revenge....after getting out from afghanistan

screwing up pathans and they created pak talibans and they are killing pak people

see one more great intelligence........how srilanka team was attacked during daylight in the heart of lahore and culprits never got caught.

Keep glorifying your stupid people instead of making them accountable towards your people.......emotional foooooools!!!!!!!!

oh you great care-taker of pashtoons, punjabis, sindhis and "muhazirs" (lol) and basher of punjabis --- go and take care of your own punjabis -- lest they slip away from your clutches.
 

lord_sultan

Councller (250+ posts)
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active4pk

Voter (50+ posts)
ISI people don't govern.. its bad governess, corrupt leaders who have personal interest in USA and UK, we always loose because of poor foreign policy ... what happened in Kargil??? we lost it when ANDHA SHARIF ran off to USA.. no doubt they are the best. It was written in articles( I can't remember it but it was after some CIA people were killed in Afghanistan) that CIA spy can play double game but with ISI its not possible.