The Hindu version of history of Mahmud Ghazna and Ghori supported by Jang-News-Geo group, link and

shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
Here is a link to an article with a title called "Historical myths and Realities" which has appeared in 15th September 2013 (Today) http://jang.com.pk/thenews/sep2013-weekly/nos-15-09-2013/pol1.htm#1 The NEWS owned by Gang /Geo group . Article has raised some valid issues but it does not explain several things.

Firstly why has author called Dr.Qadeer Infamous ?

Secondly Why has he criticized Mahmud of Ghazna and Ghori for recruiting Hindu Generals for their large empires ? .

Thirdly that why is he so angry at naming Pakistani missiles on the name of Grand Muslim conquerers ?

Fourthly why does he not mention the fact that percentage of Muslims in parts of India conquered by both is far higher that where Muslim rules did not exist for much longer as in southern india ?

and Finally why is Geo Jang groups so brave now it is giving whole pages to this alternative Hindu version of History .

Is it because the CJ allowed Jawad Khawaja to sit on the bench on PEMRA complaint case against Geo for taking money from suspicious sources despite Ristadari of Khawaja with Geo Jang group . To investigate history is not wrong , but to use it for destroying sense of achievement of Muslims is suspicious .
 
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IndiaGuy

Senator (1k+ posts)
Very good articles. Please read highlighted part of it.

The dynasty which Mahmud replaced in most of what is now Pakistan is seldom remarked upon in our textbooks. All we learn is that it was the Hindu Shahi dynasty, and that is usually about it. We never read how prosperous, developed and peaceful this region was before Mahmud and how it was then transformed into a region of continual warfare and misery. The Muslim traveller and chronicler, Al-Biruni commented on the Hindu Shahis: We must say that, in all their grandeur, they never slackened in the ardent desire of doing that which is good and right, that they were men of noble sentiment and noble bearing. With this background we must judge the entry of Mahmud into South Asia.
Mahmud of Ghazna was nothing more than a looter and his main interest in India was plunder. That is why when he dislodged the Hindu Shahis he did not appoint a governor or viceroy but left the conquered areas usually in the hands of sipahsalars Generals who were only interested in collecting revenue and defence and had scant interest in governance and justice. Thus during Mahmuds rule if one might call that, India suffered economic plunder, political instability and a distinct lack of justice.
 

zebust

MPA (400+ posts)
Hindus never had any real warrior figure. While on other hand, throughout the history, they have been beaten by foreign warriors. so to save themselves from this big time humiliation they carried out this propaganda against foreign warriors, to make them look savages and looters, be it Alexnder, Muslims or Mongols. they argue about India being peaceful and united entity. While in reality it was never united nor peaceful. The low profile Rajay Maharajay were always busy fighting each other, until a greater force came from outside, subdued them and untied all the stated as single unit.

Even that was not enough to satisfy their beaten souls. therefore to achieve false sense of superiority complex, they, along with some Britishers invented the Ashoka myth, which no one knew before 18th century. According to his tales, Ashoka was also a savage, a killer and a looter. Then why is that, even today that savage is being worshiped in India, movies & dramas are being made on him, stories are written on him, even the national emblem of India is copied from Ashoka's so called state emblem(the 3 lions).

Our intellectual should stop self loathing and at least start questioning whatever propaganda comes from across the borders. they are so influenced and convinced about Indian version of history like the Indian possess the time machine.
 

khan afghan1

Minister (2k+ posts)
Ghaznavi lutera he to tha. 17 dafa hindustan pur hamla krney ki kiya tuk bnti hy??

Seems that Ghaznavi has given you a big blow .Thats why you are now crying.Their followers
are still blowing you in the *** in AFGHANISTAN.You cant digest these things.Before swearing at
someone heroes think that comes to slap you on your face.And remove the mask from your
face that world should see your ugly face.HINDU BUNAI
 

ustadjejanab

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)



پہلی بات یہ کہ ہندوستان اس وقت کوئی ایک ملک نہیں نہیں بلکہ مختلف چھوٹی بڑی ریاستوں پر مشتمل ایک علاقہ تھا جہاں بہت سے راجاؤں کی اپنی اپنی حکومتیں قائم تھیں . محمود غزنوی کے سترہ حملے کسی ایک شخص یا مملکت کے خلاف نہیں بلکہ ان راجاؤں کے خلاف تھے. یہ سترہ حملے دراصل سترہ مختلف اوقات میں مختلف لڑائیاں تھیں جو ہندووں اور مسلمانوں کے درمیان لڑی گیں


دوسری بات یہ کہ لڑائی کی ابتداء محمود نے نہیں بلکہ راج پال اور راجہ بھاٹیہ نے کی جنہوں نے محمود غزنوی کے والد سبکتگین کے دور میں افغانستان کے کچھ علاقوں پر حملہ کر کے یہ علاقے چھین لئے تھے، ان کو بعد میں ایسا مزہ چکھایا گیا کہ آج تک ہندو مائیں اپنے بچوں کو محمود کے نام سے ڈراتی ہیں




محمود غزنوی کی فوج کا ایک بہت بڑا حصہ بذات خود ہندووں پر مشتمل تھا ، یہ ہندو وہ مظلوم نچلے طبقے کے تھے جنہوں نے برہمنوں ، پچاریوں اور مہنتوں کے مظالم سے تنگ آ کر محمود کا ساتھ دینے کا فیصلہ کیا
 
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NohmnAli

MPA (400+ posts)
Seems that Ghaznavi has given you a big blow .Thats why you are now crying.Their followers
are still blowing you in the *** in AFGHANISTAN.You cant digest these things.Before swearing at
someone heroes think that comes to slap you on your face.And remove the mask from your
face that world should see your ugly face.HINDU BUNAI

[hilar]
are bhai ghalat tareekh parho gy to apney logon ko he hindu bunai kaho gy. phir bhi aap k khayal main 17 hamley he q??
 

AakhirKab

MPA (400+ posts)
While I am in no position of saying if the article was based on truth, I don't see any relationship between getting it printed in 'The News on Sunday' and any legal proceedings that are happening (if any) against Jang Group. It seems we don't miss any opportunity of creating 'conspiracy theories'. I know there are lots of people who 'believe' in GEO's 'anti Pakistan' agenda and I respect people's opinion but this one, I don't think it is not going to fly!!

God bless us!
 

realitycheck

Senator (1k+ posts)
This is what conqueror do.... they conquer and they plunder wealth....

did Alexander came all the way from Europe here for the welfare of our people.
did the Britishers came to India to give you any kind of benefits
did the American went to Afghanistan and Iraq because they feel our pain.........


For God sake ... are you so Naive ......... I am a Pakistani Afghan .... and I am proud of it.... I am proud of my history.

Ghaznavi lutera he to tha. 17 dafa hindustan pur hamla krney ki kiya tuk bnti hy??

Very good articles. Please read highlighted part of it.

The dynasty which Mahmud replaced in most of what is now Pakistan is seldom remarked upon in our textbooks. All we learn is that it was the ‘Hindu Shahi’ dynasty, and that is usually about it. We never read how prosperous, developed and peaceful this region was before Mahmud and how it was then transformed into a region of continual warfare and misery. The Muslim traveller and chronicler, Al-Biruni commented on the Hindu Shahis: ‘We must say that, in all their grandeur, they never slackened in the ardent desire of doing that which is good and right, that they were men of noble sentiment and noble bearing.’ With this background we must judge the entry of Mahmud into South Asia.
Mahmud of Ghazna was nothing more than a looter and his main interest in India was plunder. That is why when he dislodged the Hindu Shahis he did not appoint a ‘governor’ or ‘viceroy’ but left the conquered areas usually in the hands of sipahsalars — Generals — who were only interested in collecting revenue and defence and had scant interest in governance and justice. Thus during Mahmud’s ‘rule’ if one might call that, India suffered economic plunder, political instability and a distinct lack of justice.

While I am in no position of saying if the article was based on truth, I don't see any relationship between getting it printed in 'The News on Sunday' and any legal proceedings that are happening (if any) against Jang Group. It seems we don't miss any opportunity of creating 'conspiracy theories'. I know there are lots of people who 'believe' in GEO's 'anti Pakistan' agenda and I respect people's opinion but this one, I don't think it is not going to fly!!

God bless us!
 

rainbow22

MPA (400+ posts)
Its not the first time Indians have lied. Have we forgotten Mumbai attack, how they blamed it on us. While there Ajmal Qasab forgot he was acting a Muslim. So they will even lie and change the history may it be Mahmud Ghaznavi or Ghori. They also have there fake version of Muhammad bin Qasim. We don't need to believe in any of it, just like Mumbai attack. We know them to well and there Geo Tv and Hamid Mir.
 

xshadow

Minister (2k+ posts)
اب کوئی انصار عباسی سے پوچھے کہ کیا اب بھی انہیں جیو نیوز کی وفاداری پر یقین ہے۔
 

NohmnAli

MPA (400+ posts)
This is what conqueror do.... they conquer and they plunder wealth....

did Alexander came all the way from Europe here for the welfare of our people.
did the Britishers came to India to give you any kind of benefits
did the American went to Afghanistan and Iraq because they feel our pain.........


For God sake ... are you so Naive ......... I am a Pakistani Afghan .... and I am proud of it.... I am proud of my history.

Yup, that's the point. This is what conquerors do.(clap):jazak:.
 

Unicorn

Banned
He was a great guy to emulate. The guy who beheaded the British solder was almost as good as Mehmood if only he had reached into solger's pocket and taken his money he would have been as great as Mehmood
 

Zionist Hindu

Senator (1k+ posts)
There is no difference in what Hulagu Khan did to Baghdad and what So called Muslim army did to subcontinent. These were different times and genocide was normal and acceptable behavior in those days. There is no point arguing about history. If Pakistan likes to honor foreign fighters then so be it.
 

Unicorn

Banned
There is no difference in what Hulagu Khan did to Baghdad and what So called Muslim army did to subcontinent. These were different times and genocide was normal and acceptable behavior in those days. There is no point arguing about history. If Pakistan likes to honor foreign fighters then so be it.

They don't think they were foreign Invaders. They think them selves as Arabs or Mongolians:lol:
 

sanu key

MPA (400+ posts)
Very good articles. Please read highlighted part of it.

The dynasty which Mahmud replaced in most of what is now Pakistan is seldom remarked upon in our textbooks. All we learn is that it was the ‘Hindu Shahi’ dynasty, and that is usually about it. We never read how prosperous, developed and peaceful this region was before Mahmud and how it was then transformed into a region of continual warfare and misery. The Muslim traveller and chronicler, Al-Biruni commented on the Hindu Shahis: ‘We must say that, in all their grandeur, they never slackened in the ardent desire of doing that which is good and right, that they were men of noble sentiment and noble bearing.’ With this background we must judge the entry of Mahmud into South Asia.
Mahmud of Ghazna was nothing more than a looter and his main interest in India was plunder. That is why when he dislodged the Hindu Shahis he did not appoint a ‘governor’ or ‘viceroy’ but left the conquered areas usually in the hands of sipahsalars — Generals — who were only interested in collecting revenue and defence and had scant interest in governance and justice. Thus during Mahmud’s ‘rule’ if one might call that, India suffered economic plunder, political instability and a distinct lack of justice.
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Hindus never had any real warrior figure. While on other hand, throughout the history, they have been beaten by foreign warriors. so to save themselves from this big time humiliation they carried out this propaganda against foreign warriors, to make them look savages and looters, be it Alexnder, Muslims or Mongols. they argue about India being peaceful and united entity. While in reality it was never united nor peaceful. The low profile Rajay Maharajay were always busy fighting each other, until a greater force came from outside, subdued them and untied all the stated as single unit.

Even that was not enough to satisfy their beaten souls. therefore to achieve false sense of superiority complex, they, along with some Britishers invented the Ashoka myth, which no one knew before 18th century. According to his tales, Ashoka was also a savage, a killer and a looter. Then why is that, even today that savage is being worshiped in India, movies & dramas are being made on him, stories are written on him, even the national emblem of India is copied from Ashoka's so called state emblem(the 3 lions).

Our intellectual should stop self loathing and at least start questioning whatever propaganda comes from across the borders. they ar​
 

Zionist Hindu

Senator (1k+ posts)
They don't think they were foreign Invaders. They think them selves as Arabs or Mongolians:lol:
Arabs and Mongols would really be offended by this. I know how they treat subcontinent Muslims. Aren't there any Pakistani whose name they could use for their missiles.
 
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