tehreek e nifaz e fiqah jaaferia has announced azaadari programmes this year till middle of rabiulaw
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so does this mean now whole year around mobiles will be banned and bike riding will be disallowed? where is Pakistan heading to man! (the guy says that till end of rabiulawwal these processions will continue this year) .the thing is that religious freedom is good untill it does not start to disturb majority populations life. this should be kept in mind by these people or this will create more rifts in our society.trust me its very genuine appeal and genuinie point. imagine if deobandi ahle hadeeth etc start to take out processions daily in Pakistan will anyone allow this? let people live their life. why should anyone,s religious rites be allowed to disturb and ruin majority populations life? believe me I am writing this after hearing this from many people around me.and I feel people,s patience is at their limit . and remember that islam is religion of peace and religion of ease.prophet even disallowed making a mosque in place where it disturbs peoples common route .stopping people and creating hurdles in their life and way is strictly disallowed in islam.n hazrat Husain,s way is jihad. he sacrificed his life in jihad. the best way to pay tribute to him is follow his way of jihad
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afzaalideos
Councller (250+ posts)
Every year they continue their Azadari till 8th Rabiul Alwal.. this is not first time.. so everything will be as usual...
insaf_tiger
Banned
Tnfj is the reason behind sectarianism before tnfj there was no sect issue in pak
QaiserMirza
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
سڑکوں اور سرعام تمام مذہبی جلوسوں اور اجتمعات پر پابندی ہونی چاہیے
تمام فرقہ اپنی اپنی تقریب اور جلسے اپنی مساجد اور باڑوں کے اندر کریں
کتنا سکون اور امن ہو جائے گا سارے ملک میں
یہ توڑ پھوڑ ، بد امنی ، لوگوں کا جینا دو بھر ہونا بھی ختم ہو جائے گا
نہ کوئی امن کا مسلہ ہوگا اور نہیں ہی مار پٹائی
تمام فرقہ اپنی اپنی تقریب اور جلسے اپنی مساجد اور باڑوں کے اندر کریں
کتنا سکون اور امن ہو جائے گا سارے ملک میں
یہ توڑ پھوڑ ، بد امنی ، لوگوں کا جینا دو بھر ہونا بھی ختم ہو جائے گا
نہ کوئی امن کا مسلہ ہوگا اور نہیں ہی مار پٹائی
afzaalideos
Councller (250+ posts)
Tiger bhai,
your name is represnting PTI here and you should not target one particular sect or party.. this will harm PTI and Pakistan... if TNFJ is any responsible for sectriansim, then SSP, ASWJ, LEJ, ST and all other sectarian parties are equally responsible.. you need to unite all muslims under Pakistan n PTI flag...
afzaalideos
Councller (250+ posts)
problem is that we dont have any knowledge about anything and we start making issue... we always read one sect books and become kunway k maindak... please raise above ur sects.. following someone or some sect is not a problem but making that sect whole universe is a problem..
The guy who initiated this thread did not have any knowledge about Shias.. He does not know that every year Shias do Azadari till 8th Rabi-ul-Awal and its their practice from many centuries... and now this guy has made a thread like it is happening first time in the history.. Let everyone live their life peacefully and practice their religious believes...
The guy who initiated this thread did not have any knowledge about Shias.. He does not know that every year Shias do Azadari till 8th Rabi-ul-Awal and its their practice from many centuries... and now this guy has made a thread like it is happening first time in the history.. Let everyone live their life peacefully and practice their religious believes...
Rizwan Yahya
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Karain gay be-nazar tazah talkhiyaan ejaad
Meri nigah nahi so'ay qoofa o Baghdaad
Meri nigah nahi so'ay qoofa o Baghdaad
It Happened in 1963, Well before the Establishment of TNFJ and Iranian Revolution. Biggest Massacre in Pakistani History
http://www.shaheedfoundation.org/tragic.asp?Id=13
Details:[h=4]MESSACRE OF Theri (khairPur. Pakistan)[/h]6th June on the sacred day of 'Yom-e-Aashura' during the regime of Ayub Khan, around 118 Momineen laid their lives for the sacred cause of the protection of Azadari.
TEHRI is located around 8 kilometer when we travel by road from district Khairpur to Sukkur.In 1963 the population of TEHRI was around 4 to 5 thousands, out of them 99 percent were belonged to the 'Wahabi Sect' while their was only one house of Shia named Mehdi Shah.There was also a very big Madrassa of Wahabies in the locality. On 6th of June, a Majlis (religious gathering to commemorate the tragedy of Karbala) was occurring in which around 15 to 20 Momineen were gathered.A Jaloos(religious procession) was also scheduled after this gathering, but during the gathering some stalwarts attacked and severely injured the audience.
The news of this incident was reported by Nawab Sultan Hussain to the residents of Mohalla Luqman (a nearby thickly populated locality of Shias) around 2 p.m. where a religious procession had already been taken out.
Momineen became very sentimental by this news and kept their Alams (Sacred flags carried during the procession) and said 'Let first the procession of TEHRI should be taken out, we would have later'. In this situation the uncle of Allama Irfan Haider Abidi (marhoom), Sibtain Hussain, who was a renowned Zakir-e-Hussain (orator) came forward and said ' Today it's a war between Hussainiat and Yazidism'. Hearing this the mob marched towards TEHRI shouting slogans of 'Ya Ali'
The mob, which marched towards TEHRI, constituted of young children of 8 years as well as persons of 55 years. They had to cross Khairpur city to reach TEHRI .The procession of Aashura was also taken out in Khairpur .The residents of Luqman said to the people of Khairpur to accompany them, at this time some people said that enemy has planned every and they should also prepare to counter, however, ignoring the facts, around 4 to 5 thousand people of Luqman and Khairpur marched towards TEHRI, all of them unarmed except Naseem Haider Abbas (who was martyred) had got a revolver. When the mob reached TEHRI it was around 6 p.m. close to dusk.
On the other hand the residents of TEHRI were well armed and hidden on Several places to attack.
The house of Mehdi Shah was in the middle of TEHRI, the lanes were narrow, hardly 3 feet wide and due to firing and stone pelting only 150 to 200 people were able to reach his house, the rest awaited outside the city.
At the time of dusk someone said that the Army has arrived and hearing. This the people who went there without planning and leadership left for Khairpur.After the departure of these people, the Wahabies of TEHRI encircled the Imambargah (place of congregation) of Mehdi Shah and in a Brutal way, following the tradition of their ancestors, killed the Shias ruthlessly with the help of rifles, axes, knives and stone pelting. Further they put fire to the fire Shamiana(shade)which fell on the injured people.Even cattles were hurled on the dead and injured to inflict further pain.
It was now midnight when to assure that every one is dead, the Wahabies of TEHRI,took empty water buckets and shouted the slogan of 'Ya Hussain' walked in groups among the injured and deads asking if someone needs water,and on requst the person was slaughtered ruthlessly,even to be certain the dead were slaughtered later on.(It must be noted that most of the people who slaghtered Momineen were the Hafiz-e-Quran,students of Wahabi madrassa ).In this way ,the Momineen laid their lives but did not ask for helpto any one but died following the tradition of Hazrat Imam Hussain (A.S.)
Now almost all of the Momineen in TEHRI were martyred, but the tyranny of Wahabies was not over, to hide their heinous crime they collected all the dead bodies and put them in an empty well and planned to burn them after putting kerosene oil. However, the police arrived and took the dead bodies into custody. Another reason for the failure in the burning of deads was that The Assistant Director Information of that time Mr.Ishtiaq Azher and the reporter of APP Mr. Ali Akbar Zaidi had already released the news of the death of more then 100 people to the local and international media. Later the dead bodies were shifted to the Civil Hospital Khairpur from TEHRI and kept in hospital's compound. Among them there was a body of a Wahabi, which was stinking. The doctors kept his body separately. The relatives of took their bodies after identification to their houses without post-mortum. Next day the burial of Shohada was started, which took place on several places. However, on the advice of the leader of the congregational prayer of the Central Mosque of Mohalla Luqman, Molana Safdar Hussain, the Shohada of Luqman were buried at onplace which was named Kunj-e-Shahedan (the adobe of the martyrs).
It must be noted that when next day when the bodies were carried for burial Almost 22 to 23 hours has been passed, the weather was extremely hot and there was a failure of electricity at several places, but despite of all these facts The bodies of martyrs were fresh and even blood was running from several of them.
Around 5 p.m. all dead bodies which were 32 in number were gathered in the Central Imambargah of Luqman.Amoung the deads there were the bodies of two young brothers, whose father was standing nearby, and when someone condole himon the death of his to sons he replied with patience 'My sons were not better then the sons of Hazrat Zainab Salam-ul-lah alleha. There were two families in Luqmon, whose two sons were martyred in this tragedy. The bodies were taken to the graveyard around 6 p.m. from Central Imambargah.
It should be noted that the population of Mohallah Luqman was around 6 to 7 thousand at that time, among them around 90 percent were Shias and 10 percent were Sunnies who were mainly concentrated in Kawnpur colony. After the tragedy of TEHRI, when almost from every lane one or two person body was taken for burial, the people of Kawnpur colony became very frightened and due to the fear of retailiation, they started migrating from their houses. When the Shias of Luqman asked them about the reason, they expressed their aprehenssion, at that moment the Shia assured them of there Security and told them that we have grievances against the people of TEHRI Not you and they remained there.The people of Luqman also saw, the character of the follower of Imam Hussain A.S., when the burial procession of 32 martyrs consisted of thousand of people crossed Kawnpur colony, not even a single stone was pelted neither any resident was disturbed. After observing this character, the leader of the congregational prayer of the Kawnpur colony mosque, Mr. Siddique, who used to recite Marsia (elegy about the tragedy of Karbala) Written by his father on loudspeaker all night, started attending the Majalis (religious gathering in the memory of the tragedy of Karbala) and also started reciting his own composed Marisa's and when he died people offered his Namaz-e-Janaza twice. Once by the Shias since he willed that he should be buried as Shia and second by the Sunnies since they considered him the leader of the congregational prayer.
punjabi_tha
Councller (250+ posts)
100% agree with you. There must be a ban on religious processions in public places on both sides shia and sunni. It creates a lot of hardships for people, shops closed, traffic jams and security issue,.
insaf_tiger
Banned
@ enigma 90 i never new this news before .. thanks for leting me know ... if this is true than that was terrorism from who so ever did it .. but i know the main tnfj was created by bhuto and after irans reveloution .. ssp was made in zias regime and lej made after mulana ziaurehman farooqi shadat out side court .. this is a big debat mein tu kar kar ke thak gaya hon ab tu yahi sochta hon ke shayad kabhi hamery nojawan on zakron ko galey say pakraein or on molaon ko giraban say parkrin jo 14 so sal pehley ke kisay lay kar apni taraf say batein bana kar firqa wariyat par katil karatay hai .. bhair hal yeh kisi ka zati masla hai koi petay ya na petay to me koi aklmand admi easa nahe kar sakta na hi koi janti darwaza bana kar haj karey . khair thanks for this information i will look in to it why and what happend
Ali raza babar
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
And you proved to be the moron you are ... Who the hell are you calling another muslim a kafir ....
If shia are Kafir then why are they allowed to perform hajj by your puppet master Saudia .??
Ali raza babar
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
BuTurabi
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@Arbkhan
بابا بُلہے شاہ سرکار کے لبِ مبارک سے جھڑے چار پھوُل پیشِ خدمت ہیں:۔عاشق ہویوں رب دا، ہوئی ملامت لاکھ
تینوں کافر کافر آکھدے توں آہو آہو آکھ
دوسری جگہ فرماتے ہیں
راتیں جاگیں، کریں عبادت راتیں جاگن کتے
تیتھوں اُتے، بھونکنوں بند مول نہ ہوندے
جا رُوڑی تے ستے تیتھوں اُتے
کھسم اپنے دا در نہ چھڈ دے بھانویں وجن جُتے، تیتھوں اُتے
اشعار میں غلطی کیصورت تصحیح کی گنجائش ہے
Ali raza babar
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
My eyes are wet after reading this Thanks Buturabi bhai ... bohat shukria
Ali raza babar
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Koi aur bhi share kero yaar bhullay shah sarkaar ki poetry
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