Taliban new Amir Mullah Akhter Mansoor has disowned the Peace talks
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Lil'Genius
Minister (2k+ posts)
Fu*k : ( Talks with Afghan Taliban is necessary for stability of the region.
ambroxo
Minister (2k+ posts)
You and your masters USA, UK, France, Germany along with 42 other countries and the most powerful of all, the mighty Iran, not trying this since last 16 years?
And yet you and your master didn't know Mullah Umer is dead for more than two years .
Most of them has already left Afghanistan. You can go and try over there. :biggthumpup:
Saeed4Truth
Minister (2k+ posts)
They are fighting against foreign occupation of american terrorists
kabhi apne zehn se b sahi ghalt ka andaza kr lia karen media hamesha agenday pe hota hai haqaiq nahi btata
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Bhai media tu kuch dikhata hi nahi..hamari ankhain hain..zehan ha..TTP..
ISIS..Daesh..LeJ..SSP.ke supporters in ke ander hain..lekan kabhi
us ke baray mien zuban khuli ya fatwa dia?ISIS.Daesh tu ab ae.lekan
TTP ke har..am.zadey tu in ke ander they..us waqt in ki musalmani kahan
thi??Jo so called..Islami party..apnay ander Firqa Parasto ko panah deti
ho..wo kahan se Jihadi ban gae???Islam tu aik be gunah kaffir ko marney
ki ejazat nahi deta..in ke hawario ne tu apnay hi lakho be.gunah bacho
aurto ko shaheed kar dia...
Shahid Abassi
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
false news. It is this mullah who has been running the show for about a year since Mullah omar died and the last few sessions of peace talks have been promoted by the Mullah Akhtar himself.
Saeed4Truth
Minister (2k+ posts)
All u said is right but i was talking about afghan taliban
Pathfinder
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
We In Pakistan Should Only Have One Concern and That is To Secure Our Borders Preventing any Infiltration from Afghanistan. Secondly The Peace Talk With Afghan Government Has Collapsed Weather It Has Collapsed With Pakistan Is Not Known!
Taliban Insurgency will Continue
KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Political uncertainty inside the Taliban has cast doubt on the prospects for an end to the war in Afghanistan. On Saturday the Taliban's controversial new leader vowed to continue fighting while urging unity among his followers in a message aimed at preventing a split in the group between those who want peace and those who still believe they can win.
In it, the man purported to be Mansoor seemed to be carefully parsing his words to calm internal dissent and solidify his political base inside the Taliban, urging his fighters to remain unified and continue the jihad, or holy war, to establish an Islamic state in Afghanistan. He did not endorse or reject the nascent peace talks with the Afghan government despite the fact that, according to the government, Mansoor has been effectively running the Taliban for more than two years and the group's decision to participate in landmark face-to-face talks in Pakistan last month took place under his leadership. A second round of talks, which has been scheduled to begin Friday in Pakistan, has been indefinitely postponed.An audio message purportedly from newly elected Taliban leader Mullah Akhtar Mohammad Mansoor came as cracks in the Taliban's previously united front widened, two days after the group confirmed an Afghan government report that reclusive longtime leader, Mullah Mohammad Omar, had died. The 30-minute speech attributed to Mansoor was emailed to The Associated Press by the Taliban's spokesman. It could not be independently verified.
"We have to continue our jihad, we shouldn't be suspicious of each other. We should accept each other. Whatever happens must comply with Sharia law, whether that be jihad, or talks, or an invitation to either. Our decisions all must be based on Sharia law," he said.
Mansoor took over the Taliban after the group on Thursday confirmed that Mullah Omar had died and said they elected Mansoor as his successor. The Afghan government announced Wednesday that the reclusive mullah had been dead since April 2013; the Taliban has remained vague on exactly when Mullah Omar died.
Mansoor's first priority seems to be quelling internal opposition to his election. Mullah Omar's son Yacoob has publicly rejected Mansoor's election, which was held in the Pakistani city of Quetta. He said the vote took place among a small clique of Mansoor's supporters and demanded a re-election that includes all Taliban commanders, including those fighting in Afghanistan.
"We should keep our unity, we must be united, our enemy will be happy in our separation," Mansoor purportedly said in the message. "This is a big responsibility for us. This is not the work of one, two or three people. This is all our responsibility to carry on jihad until we establish the Islamic state."
Observers said the coming days should reveal how the Taliban leadership crisis plays out — a process which could have a seismic effect on Afghanistan's political landscape.
"There's a lot of unknowns right now, but hopefully within the next few days we would know more about what will be the intentions of the new leadership and if the new leader would be able to keep unity within the Taliban," said Haroun Mir, a political analyst.
If Mansoor fails to appease his fighters and field commanders on the ground, the ultimate beneficiary could be the Islamic State group. The rival Islamic extremist group, which already controls about a third of Syria and Iraq with affiliates in Egypt and Libya, has established a small foothold in Afghanistan and is actively recruiting disillusioned Taliban fighters, according to Afghan government and U.S. military officials.
The position of the Afghan government was also unclear, he said, as President Ashraf Ghani — who has made peace a priority of his administration — is in Germany for medical treatment. "We are hopeful that when President Ghani returns to Kabul, he will make a statement about this new event and about the future of the peace process," Mir said.
Under Mansoor's shadow leadership, the Taliban has participated in a series of indirect meetings with government representatives, culminating in last month's landmark meeting. But the Taliban has simultaneously intensified its attacks on Afghan security forces, expanding its footprint into the previously peaceful northern provinces after NATO and U.S. troops ended their combat mission and handed over security to local forces at the end of last year.Mullah Omar was the one-eyed, secretive head of the Taliban, who hosted Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaida in the years leading up to the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. He had not been seen in public since fleeing over the border into Pakistan after the 2001 U.S.-led invasion that ousted the Taliban from power.
Officials said on Saturday that Taliban gunmen had surrounded a police station in southern Uruzgan province and were holding 70 police officers hostage. The head of the police in Khas Uruzgan district said that five police officers had been killed and four wounded in fighting so far.
"If we don't get support then all 70 police will be either dead or captured," he said.
In a separate statement on Saturday, the Taliban refuted media reports that the leader of the Haqqani Network, Jalaluddin Haqqani, had died in eastern Afghanistan a year ago.
"These claims have no basis," the statement said. It said the leader of one of the country's most brutal insurgent groups, based in Pakistan's tribal belt with links to al-Qaeda, "has been blessed with good health for a long time now and has no troubles currently."
Like Mullah Omar, Haqqani has been reported dead on a number of occasions, but the reports have not been independently verified. Jalaluddin's son Sirajuddin was elected as the Taliban's deputy to Mansoor — a move possibly aimed at ensuring a steady cash flow from the Haqqani's wealthy backers and appeasing hardliners.
The Haqqani Network is considered one of the country's most vicious militant organizations, responsible for complex and well-planned attacks that often involve large numbers of suicide bombers and produce heavy casualties.
http://news.yahoo.com/afghan-taliban-leader-promises-continue-insurgency-100823162.html
KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Political uncertainty inside the Taliban has cast doubt on the prospects for an end to the war in Afghanistan. On Saturday the Taliban's controversial new leader vowed to continue fighting while urging unity among his followers in a message aimed at preventing a split in the group between those who want peace and those who still believe they can win.
In it, the man purported to be Mansoor seemed to be carefully parsing his words to calm internal dissent and solidify his political base inside the Taliban, urging his fighters to remain unified and continue the jihad, or holy war, to establish an Islamic state in Afghanistan. He did not endorse or reject the nascent peace talks with the Afghan government despite the fact that, according to the government, Mansoor has been effectively running the Taliban for more than two years and the group's decision to participate in landmark face-to-face talks in Pakistan last month took place under his leadership. A second round of talks, which has been scheduled to begin Friday in Pakistan, has been indefinitely postponed.An audio message purportedly from newly elected Taliban leader Mullah Akhtar Mohammad Mansoor came as cracks in the Taliban's previously united front widened, two days after the group confirmed an Afghan government report that reclusive longtime leader, Mullah Mohammad Omar, had died. The 30-minute speech attributed to Mansoor was emailed to The Associated Press by the Taliban's spokesman. It could not be independently verified.
"We have to continue our jihad, we shouldn't be suspicious of each other. We should accept each other. Whatever happens must comply with Sharia law, whether that be jihad, or talks, or an invitation to either. Our decisions all must be based on Sharia law," he said.
Mansoor took over the Taliban after the group on Thursday confirmed that Mullah Omar had died and said they elected Mansoor as his successor. The Afghan government announced Wednesday that the reclusive mullah had been dead since April 2013; the Taliban has remained vague on exactly when Mullah Omar died.
Mansoor's first priority seems to be quelling internal opposition to his election. Mullah Omar's son Yacoob has publicly rejected Mansoor's election, which was held in the Pakistani city of Quetta. He said the vote took place among a small clique of Mansoor's supporters and demanded a re-election that includes all Taliban commanders, including those fighting in Afghanistan.
"We should keep our unity, we must be united, our enemy will be happy in our separation," Mansoor purportedly said in the message. "This is a big responsibility for us. This is not the work of one, two or three people. This is all our responsibility to carry on jihad until we establish the Islamic state."
Observers said the coming days should reveal how the Taliban leadership crisis plays out — a process which could have a seismic effect on Afghanistan's political landscape.
"There's a lot of unknowns right now, but hopefully within the next few days we would know more about what will be the intentions of the new leadership and if the new leader would be able to keep unity within the Taliban," said Haroun Mir, a political analyst.
If Mansoor fails to appease his fighters and field commanders on the ground, the ultimate beneficiary could be the Islamic State group. The rival Islamic extremist group, which already controls about a third of Syria and Iraq with affiliates in Egypt and Libya, has established a small foothold in Afghanistan and is actively recruiting disillusioned Taliban fighters, according to Afghan government and U.S. military officials.
The position of the Afghan government was also unclear, he said, as President Ashraf Ghani — who has made peace a priority of his administration — is in Germany for medical treatment. "We are hopeful that when President Ghani returns to Kabul, he will make a statement about this new event and about the future of the peace process," Mir said.
Under Mansoor's shadow leadership, the Taliban has participated in a series of indirect meetings with government representatives, culminating in last month's landmark meeting. But the Taliban has simultaneously intensified its attacks on Afghan security forces, expanding its footprint into the previously peaceful northern provinces after NATO and U.S. troops ended their combat mission and handed over security to local forces at the end of last year.Mullah Omar was the one-eyed, secretive head of the Taliban, who hosted Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaida in the years leading up to the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. He had not been seen in public since fleeing over the border into Pakistan after the 2001 U.S.-led invasion that ousted the Taliban from power.
Officials said on Saturday that Taliban gunmen had surrounded a police station in southern Uruzgan province and were holding 70 police officers hostage. The head of the police in Khas Uruzgan district said that five police officers had been killed and four wounded in fighting so far.
"If we don't get support then all 70 police will be either dead or captured," he said.
In a separate statement on Saturday, the Taliban refuted media reports that the leader of the Haqqani Network, Jalaluddin Haqqani, had died in eastern Afghanistan a year ago.
"These claims have no basis," the statement said. It said the leader of one of the country's most brutal insurgent groups, based in Pakistan's tribal belt with links to al-Qaeda, "has been blessed with good health for a long time now and has no troubles currently."
Like Mullah Omar, Haqqani has been reported dead on a number of occasions, but the reports have not been independently verified. Jalaluddin's son Sirajuddin was elected as the Taliban's deputy to Mansoor — a move possibly aimed at ensuring a steady cash flow from the Haqqani's wealthy backers and appeasing hardliners.
The Haqqani Network is considered one of the country's most vicious militant organizations, responsible for complex and well-planned attacks that often involve large numbers of suicide bombers and produce heavy casualties.
http://news.yahoo.com/afghan-taliban-leader-promises-continue-insurgency-100823162.html
allahkebande
Minister (2k+ posts)
ملا عمر کے بیٹے کو تو طالبان نے خود مار دیا ۔ کیا اچھا خراج پیش کیا ہے اپنے امیر کو ۔
قاتلان صرف قتل کرنا جانتے ہیں
شانزے خان ڈيجيٹل آؤٹ ريچ ٹيم يو ايس اسٹيٹ ڈيپارٹمينٹ
يہ بات باعث حيرت ہے کہ کچھ تجزيہ نگار اور راۓ دہندگان اب بھی افغانستان ميں متحرک مسلح گروہوں کے مقاصد اور ارادوں کے حوالے سے اپنی سوچ اور نظريات ميں ابہام اور تذبذب کا شکار ہيں اور تمام تر شواہد کے باوجود بظاہر حالت انکارميں ہيں۔ ان مجرموں کی اصل فطرت کے حوالے سے شک وشہبے کی کيا گنجائش رہ جاتی ہے جبکہ وہ افغانستان ميں بھی وہی خونی مہم جوئ کر رہے ہيں جو پاکستان ميں بھی جاری ہے۔
عظمت اور جرات جيسے الفاظ دہشت گردوں کے ان مجرمانہ افعال کے ضمن ميں استعمال نہيں کيے جا سکتے ہيں جن کی تمام تر حکمت عملی اس امر پر مرکوز ہوتی ہے کہ انتہائ بزدلانہ طريقے سے زيادہ سے زيادہ بے گناہ افراد کو ہلاک کيا جاۓ، اس بات سے قطع نظر کہ اپنے جرائم کی توجيہہ کے ليے وہ کوئ مقدس تاويل يہ تحريک کے حوالے کيوں نا پيش کريں۔
يہ بات بھی قابل توجہ ہے کہ افغانستان ميں دہشت گرد تنظيميں اور ان کی حمايت کرنے والے بغير کسی منطق کے بدستور افغانستان کو ايک ايسی سرزمين قرار ديتے ہيں جس پر بيرونی قوتوں نے قبضہ کر رکھا ہے، باوجود اس کے کہ اس وقت افغانستان ميں افغانيوں ہی کے زير قيادت ايک فعال حکومت ملک کا نظام اور نظم ونسق چلا رہی ہے۔ تمام تر حکومتی مشينری، وسائل، طرز حکومت اور رياست سے متعلق اہم فيصلہ سازی کے اختيارات افغانستان کے منتخب نمايندوں کے ہاتھوں ميں ہيں۔ امريکہ سميت کوئ بھی بيرونی قوت افغانستان کے علاقوں پر قابض نہيں ہے۔
امريکی اور نيٹو افواج کی موجودگی محض مقامی افغان فوج اور قانون نافذ کرنے والے اداروں کی معاونت کے ليے ہے جو دہشت گردی کے ان ٹھکانوں کے قلع قمع کی کاوش ميں لگے ہوۓ ہيں جو افغانستان ميں جاری عدم استحکام اور افراتفری کے ذمہ دار ہيں۔
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ambroxo
Minister (2k+ posts)
Shahid Abassi
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Bechara Akhtar has no other way. Iran backed talban groups are blaming him to be an ISI backed appointmnet so he is compelled to say no to ISI sponsored talks. Not his fault
Tyrion Lannister
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
They are fighting for Dollars nothing else, like always bs currency bdl gae hai:lol:
RAW AGENT
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
simply a doomed operation of i.s.i. as always .
i.s.i. has only expertise in destructive operations like sending terrorists in to kashmir , and sending terrorists in to 26/11 type massacre , this agency is incapable of bringing any operation which are related with peace . a complete failure .
Aslam Bajjwa
Banned
دنیا کی مہذب اقوام زمینی و فضائی آلودگی کے خلاف جد و جہد میں مصروف ہیں۔
طالبان، لشکر جھنگوی، ایم کیو ایم وغیرہ کے خلاف "صفائی مہم" میں شامل ہو کر پاکستان بھی مہذب اقوم کی فہرست میں شامل ہو گیا ہے۔ الحمدللہ
Look at his face motu looks like a rich powerful drug lord. He wants no PEACE as he wants to control afganistan n create civil war against northen alliance.
As motu cannot do hard halal work like taking care of wife house kids. As lazy bum mota wants to zulum and tempertantrums against poor n weak n control land. Nothing for muslims or islam will become private me rcenar
y for whoever bids high enough$$$$$.
As motu cannot do hard halal work like taking care of wife house kids. As lazy bum mota wants to zulum and tempertantrums against poor n weak n control land. Nothing for muslims or islam will become private me rcenar
y for whoever bids high enough$$$$$.
