Talat Hussain, Imran Khan & The Anarchist

[indigo]

I have read recent column by Talat Hussain, now im really getting a feeling that I should share this note...

It was written by a friend, call herself The Anarchist...........

"As I have mused over the years on anarchy so that I could understand it better and realize what it truly meant and how to create it, I have been struck by an observation.

Any kind of government works WITH good people.

No kind of government work with people doing WRONG.

You can have a benevolent monarchy/dictatorship. You can have a democracy or republic that works fine. Socialism and communism are feasible with good people. Or you can have nightmares of fascism that can arise from any of these government formats.

So it is not the "system" that is functional. It is PEOPLE. Systems do not live and breathe on their own without their constituent conscious agents (people!) who are making choices and decisions. So PEOPLE are either functional or dysfunctional.

And if you have a monarchy, a republic or a commune that is full of good people doing good things, then these formats of governments tend to look a lot like anarchy anyway, because even if you have a good king, for example, if he is good, he does not spend a lot of time telling people what to do (for example), because he knows that he should provide freedom to his people.

So if this is the case, then anarchy (=community) is the natural state of good human beings, since they are only going about doing good and living their lives. So the hope for all types of government is for human beings to reach their full potential as souls. And if we cannot do that, then we can have no hope in ANY type of government.

So the question becomes--how do we reach our full potential as human beings? individually and as a community? A big question :). That is the question of life, indeed, and as humans we have been struggling with it for millenia. I think we have the answers, in general. But we may not yet have the strength, humility or determination to fulfill those answers.

Anarchy (=community) is something that human beings must PREPARE to be able to participate in. It cannot be done in a day, or done by a constitution or a revolution or a committee meeting or anything like this. It can only be done by personal preparation, and then reaching out to any others we can help, who want to be helped.

 

[aimless]

bro i agree with all that :) i think IK and his party is totally lost in their own party election ... but believe me ... having a party in Pakistan which have a mechanism of internal party election will be far more superior than PTI coming in power in next election ... becz that way we Pakistanis will have one pure political party...

 

[haqiqath]

LONG LIVE PAKISTAN AND TRIBUTE TO PAKISTANI FORCES but Pakistani army politician killing own people since long so many years in tribal areas still no peace dollars thirst usa the most cunning wicked nation just doing appologise on killing 24 soldiers for their own benefits is the worst misery of pakistani nation till complete cutt of nato supply completely stopping drone attacks putting heavy taxes on nato supplies with clear accountability the money used on the pakistani nation rather then going in corrupt people pockets destroying integrity and sovereginity of pakistan daily bomb blasts rockets suicide attacks corruption internal terrorism is not ONLY problem there is no rule of law in pakistan the same one law for all and no implementation of court orders neither respected followed neither court judges do proper decisions on time all night sleep look at the face of advocates to know the case what will be the standard of their justice just winding up increasing crimes rather then reducing it Till USA in afghanistan impossible stability in the region never gona solve kashmir very old indian pakistani dispute never palestine issue gona be solved ever never similar supporting india against china the country who had broken all records of human rights voilations in kashmir with the help of hindu extremist terrorist indian organisation shev cena bal takray Most important Pakistan >>Balochistan issue with the support of india because of several reasons usa cia raw creating instabilty through some internal corrupt brahamdaug bugthi others who trying to save their sardari personal benefits creating the whole destruction inside pakistan –since long similar syria iran jordan libya iraq qatar shaam etc etc many other countries going to be new target pre planned 911 al qaida osama cia agent useless propaganda war started by haterd jewish lobbies sitting in america playing making american people fool making their life more risky and eating their taxes like parasites playing the chess in their congress for their devilish desires to capture muslim world resources oil hunger to cool down their haterdness ever some one heard in europe or canda america uk bomb blasts suicide attacks Drones no why ???? till america itself dont splash into pieces like russia including israel impossible for this world to live in piece pakistan is stucked around all time hidden enemies india russia usa israel GOD BLESS the world from parasites who living in peace and enjoying lives while making hell for others.

 

[shaheedchoudry]

Epitome of "out of context"

 

[indigo]

Epitome of "out of context"

I know you are hard fan of Imran Khan...

Just imagine If, Imran Khan is not the Real Man... Don't you think its time for be little realistic....

 

[elenctic]

Here comes the complete article by Talat Hussain. Why did you just cut and paste piece where he is referring Imran Khan? Kindly read his viewpoint about other parties as well. :) :lol:

http://express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1101567608&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20120710

 

[indigo]

Here comes the complete article by Talat Hussain. Why did you just cut and paste piece where he is referring Imran Khan? Kindly read his viewpoint about other parties as well. :):lol:

http://express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1101567608&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20120710

Other parties are arse!

PTI is arse then?

 

[elenctic]

This thread is created in such a way as if Talat Hussain is a hero because he is propagating against PTI. Talat is a man of integrity. Thats why I gave the link of complete article to provide the complete picture. I am not here to defend any party.

Other parties are arse!

PTI is arse then?

 

[Aadmi]

I think PTI is doing the right thing, this gov is in his last mnths and thrs no need to create any chaos in the country.We should all wait for the elections and bring a change from ballot.

 

[khan afghan1]

Talat has not any authority to prove someone right or wrong.
He just writes that does not mean he is right.Ik is organising his
own protest on 14 of july in peshawar.He has nothing to do
with DCP.He has already been potraid as ISI man,participating DCP
which majority of the media say is organise by ISI could have blamed that
IK is also ISI man .No need to get certificate from Talat or any other.
We were with IK and we will remain with IK and IK has to fight the corruption
in the country.Talat and other like should not blame IK for what has done by Govt and Army.

 

[khan afghan1]

Talat and others should not blame IK for what has done by Govt and Army.

 

[VoteME]

I liked the Anarchist part. It is not the "system" that is functional. It is PEOPLE. Aur jo shariat k hami hain, Agar Khalifa Molana Diesel jaisa bunda bun gya tou?? Hone ko bht kuch ho skta hai.... Unay waa kisi ko follow karne ki zrorat nai...

 

[saifsaif]

To phir ye MOhib-e-watan Talat Bibi kiyun NATO ke truks ke aage nahi late jata? ye kiya tamasha dekhne aur tamash likhne tak hi mahdod hai ? stupid Talat,you dont know but we know that ony IK works hard for Pakistan and Paksitanies(even till 18 hours daily and every one knows it except racist person)IK did well doing apart from JAZBATI and BEWAQUF loog.

 

[saifsaif]

ye Talat Bibi khabi bhi kush nahi hoti,is ke aik hath per chand aur aik hath per suraj bhi rakh do to bhi ye IF,BUT kerta rahe ga.

 

[saifsaif]

is Talat BAHADUR SAHAB per jab se MQM walon ne(AAJ TV) firing ki hai is ki sari BAHADRI ka zor poor IK per ya phir dosre politicions per nikalta hai,tell me any one,from many months or years he did any interview from any one of MQM or Altaf himself ? well suited booted,air conditioned rooms and cars and galmourous world of Talat.

 

[zeshaan]

"Agar Khalifa Molana Diesel jaisa bunda bun gya tou"???????????????????????????????
Too yeh hogaa,
Hamm too doobay hain sanam tumm koo bhee lay doobain gaay.

 

[patriot]

DPC Lahore se challe aur Islamabad mein taqreeren ken aur ghar ghar ko lot gay.
Kia hasil kiya?
NATO supply bund ho gaee , drone hamle ruk gay??

Agar kal ko phir inko Lahore se aisa hi march karna padjaay tau dekhte hein kitne log
inka saath detay hein.

Talat Hussain kabhi kabhi jazbaat mein aakar aisi baaten kar jaate hein jo mere khayaal mein na maqool si hoti hein.
Mubashar Luqman ke muamle mein bhi Talat ne jaldbazi dekhaee thi.
Aur humare PTI ke supporter lath lekar us ke peeche padge. Noon leag waloon ne es cheez ka khoob faida uthaya.
Jo chund aik anchor person PTI keliye naram gosha rakhte hein hum log unko bhi galiyan de de kar apne khilaaf
kar rahe hein. Shabash lage raho apni party ki maddad aise hi hoti hai.

 

[Star Gazer]

As much as I like what IK says, I do agree with Talat Hussain in that there is a vacuum and that needs to be filled,PTI has an opportunity to do that and should have a strategy to do it. Not taking even the miniscule of the blame away from the government I would suggest to PTI and IK to explain to the public their MO in this matter because it is becoming much larger day by day and could overshadow every other issue.
Similarly the media needs to take note that there bias is obvious by their absence from the coverage.

 

[shaheedchoudry]

I know you are hard fan of Imran Khan...

Just imagine If, Imran Khan is not the Real Man... Don't you think its time for be little realistic....

I am fan of Talat Hussain also. There have been times when I criticized IK. I will still insist that the extract posted above is out of context.

 

[AsifAmeer]

OUTSTANDING... A standing ovation! [MENTION=23969]indigo[/MENTION] did you write it or did Talat write this?

Lately I have been reading about Brownian Motion and financial markets. The ANARCHIST argument reminds me of the Brownian Motion... haphazard yet with a clear quantitative pattern...