Stephen Hawking: God didn't create universe

masadi1980

MPA (400+ posts)
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LONDON, England (CNN) -- God did not create the universe, world-famous physicist Stephen Hawking argues in a new book that aims to banish a divine creator from physics.
Hawking says in his book "The Grand Design" that, given the existence of gravity, "the universe can and will create itself from nothing," according to an excerpt published Thursday in The Times of London.


"Spontaneous creation is the reason why there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist," he writes in the excerpt.


"It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper [fuse] and set the universe going," he writes.


His book -- as the title suggests -- is an attempt to answer "the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything," he writes, quoting Douglas Adams' cult science fiction romp, "The Hitch-hiker's Guide to the Galaxy."

His answer is "M-theory," which, he says, posits 11 space-time dimensions, "vibrating strings, ... point particles, two-dimensional membranes, three-dimensional blobs and other objects that are more difficult to picture and occupy even more dimensions of space." He doesn't explain much of that in the excerpt, which is the introduction to the book.
But he says he understands the feeling of the great English scientist Isaac Newton that God did "create" and "conserve" order in the universe.


It was the discovery of other solar systems outside our own, in 1992, that undercut a key idea of Newton's -- that our world was so uniquely designed to be comfortable for human life that some divine creator must have been responsible.


But, Hawking argues, if there are untold numbers of planets in the galaxy, it's less remarkable that there's one with conditions for human life.


And, indeed, he argues, any form of intelligent life that evolves anywhere will automatically find that it lives somewhere suitable for it.


From there he introduces the idea of multiple universes, saying that if there are many universes, one will have laws of physics like ours -- and in such a universe, something not only can, but must, arise from nothing.


Therefore, he concludes, there's no need for God to explain it.


But some of Hawking's Cambridge colleagues said the physicist has missed the point.
"The 'god' that Stephen Hawking is trying to debunk is not the creator God of the Abrahamic faiths who really is the ultimate exp*****ion for why there is something rather than nothing," said Denis Alexander.


"Hawking's god is a god-of-the-gaps used to plug present gaps in our scientific knowledge.
"Science provides us with a wonderful narrative as to how [existence] may happen, but theology addresses the meaning of the narrative," said Alexander, director of The Faraday Institute for Science and Religion.


And Fraser Watts, an Anglican priest and Cambridge expert in the history of science, said that it's not the existence of the universe that proves the existence of God.


But, he said, "a creator God provides a reasonable and credible exp*****ion of why there is a universe, and ... it is somewhat more likely that there is a God than that there is not. That view is not undermined by what Hawking has said."


Hawking's book will be published on September 7 in the United States and September 9 in the United Kingdom.
 

masadi1980

MPA (400+ posts)
He is lifetime Head of Physics Department in University of Cambridge even he is severly disabled by Motor Neuron known as Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis (ALS).
He is known for Black Holes, Theoretical cosmology, Quantaum gravity, Hawking radiation.
Noteable awards are Prince of Asturias Award (1989), Copley Medal (2006), Presidential Medal of Freedom (2009).

The intresting thing about Hawking, his whole body is paralised except one or two fingers he could move but now only lower part of his Right Eye.
Even in this condition he delivers lectures and is a Intellectual Celebrity.
How he speaks ?????
On his right eye there is a sensor who sense motion from his eye (as you can see in above picture), on arm of his wheel chair there is a Intel PII Screen. He uses a program built by Wordpress. In this program, from the upper part he selects words to the lower part of the screen and when he builts a sentence he pushes that to an other program called Speech+. So he speaks.

See how people are using their assets, and what we did with Dr. Abdul Qadeer.:(:(
 

reliable

Senator (1k+ posts)
After all this research, scientists are unble to tell, what was in universe before big bang. After thinking deep and deep,,,,,,,,,,........they have no choice but to accept existance of ALLAH.
 

kashnex

Councller (250+ posts)
Science itself is exploration of nature. If a scientific theorist says that it does not imply that he/her theory proven to be true. This is only a theory he presented not a very solid experiments have been done nor results presented on this. Regardless of what Mr. Hawkins says .... it might have grounds in science portfolio but it does not fulfill all realistic hypothesis theorists have previously created. The creation of the University itself is a miracle which unanimously accepts that there is a divine power who has created this universe. I agree with reliable that scientist must prove that what was universe like before big bang ... and how does this big bang happened? It is proven reality that without any power being vested upon any particle it cannot move then how could such a big bang can happen without a power and indeed utmost control of that. I have no doubt in mind that Only ALLAH has the power to control everything and he is the only MASTER.
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
بھائی اگر کسی کو یونیورس کی تخلیق پر شک ہے تو اس طرح کے فضول تھریڈ شروع کر لیا کرو ورنہ یہ صرف وقت کی بربادی ہے
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Creation of the universe is a settled issue now. Why do we again again take on such issue. Is it only to overcome the inferiority complex to be called as progressive?
 

adeee

Citizen
(Report)تخلیق کائنات میں خدا کی ضرورت نہیں

دنیا کے ایک سرکردہ ماہر طبعیات سٹیون ہاکنگ نے کہا ہے کہ تخلیق کائنات کے لیے کسی خالق کائنات کا ہونا ضروری نہیں ہے۔
اپنی تازہ تصنیف میں انھوں نے کہا ہے کہ کائنات کی تخلیق میں خدا کے کردار کے بارے میں انھوں نے اپنا نظریہ تبدیل کرلیا ہے۔ اوراب وہ اس نتیجے پر پہنچے ہیں کہ بگ بینگ محض ایک حادثہ یا پہلے سے پائے جانے والے سائنسی یا مذہبی عقائد کے مطابق خدا کے حکم کا نتیجہ نہیں بلکہ کائنات میں موجود طبعی قوانین کا ناگزیر نتیجہ تھا۔
ان کا کہنا ہے کہ کائنات کا از خود بننا یعنی بلا ارادہ وجود میں آنا ہی یہ دلیل ہے کہ پہلے سے کچھ نہ کچھ موجود تھا۔
سٹیون ہاکنگ اپنی نئی کتاب دی گرینڈ ڈیزائین` میں اپنے نظریے کی دلالت کرتے ہوئے لکھتے ہیں کہ آفاق میں موجود کشش ثقل کے قانون کے مطابق دنیا بغیر کسی مصمم ارادے یا منصوبے کے وجود میں آسکتی ہے۔


Is ****y ko kisi ne ye nae bataya kay jo Khuda tujhay bana sakta hay Us kay liye to kinat ko takhleeq karna ik second ka kam hay.


aaaa kia mazay ki bat kae hay kay "kinat ka wajood tabae qawaneen ka nateja hay"



oo mamu ye tabae qawaneen ap kay walide muhtaram ne ejad kiye hain jo Nauzubillah Allah pak se pahlay wajood me thay.:lol::lol::lol:


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Pragmatic

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Steven Weinberg Nobel laureate who shared this prize with Abdul Salam has the same view

 

pcdoc24x7

Minister (2k+ posts)
Must Read: An eye opener for non-believers. Allah exists and these miracles are proof of His existence. Dr. Hawkings wake up!

Moms hug revives baby that was pronounced dead

Modern medicine often works wonders, but an Australian mom now knows firsthand the true miracle that can come from a mothers touch.
Kate Ogg was told her newborn son Jamie had died after efforts to resuscitate the premature infant had failed shortly after his birth. But when Kate was given the chance to say goodbye to the apparently lifeless baby, she and her husband, David, found they were instead saying hello to the newest member of their family.
Now 5 months old and healthy, baby Jamie and his twin sister, Emily, appeared on TODAY Friday with their proud parents, who told the amazing tale of what happened to them in a Sydney, Australia, hospital last March.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/18841574/ns/today-today_people
Loving embrace
Kate Ogg told TODAYs Ann Curry that she knew her babies were in danger when she gave birth just 27 weeks into her pregnancy. Daughter Emily survived the premature birth, but son Jamie languished and after 20 minutes of trying to get him to breathe, doctors pronounced him dead.
After Kate was told Jamie didnt make it, nurses placed the baby across Kates bare chest so Kate and David could reconcile themselves to his death.
I wanted to meet him and to hold him and for him to know us, Kate Ogg told Curry. If he was on his way out of the world, we wanted for him to know who his parents were and to know that we loved him before he died.
But a strange thing happened on their way to farewell. After five minutes, Jamie began displaying short, startled movements. As Kate and David looked on, his movements became more pronounced.
Still, the babys doctor told the parents any movements were purely reflex, and their son was not alive.
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TODAY Proud parents David and Kate Ogg visited TODAY with their twins, Emily and Jamie. Doctors had pronounced Jamie dead when he was born.

Kate and David nonetheless reveled in their sons movements, even though they believed he was dead. Wed resigned ourselves to the fact we were going to lose him; we were just trying to make the most of those last precious moments, Kate said.
David Ogg told Curry the couple had hoped for an extra minute or two with their son, but it eventually extended more than two hours. But no one was more surprised than David and Kate when their seemingly dead son opened his eyes.
We thought, What a blessing, we get to see his eyes before he passes away, Kate said. But they stayed open!
At that point, the couple began to think their baby might not be dead after all. I think half of us said [then], What if he actually makes it? David said. If he does, this would just be a miracle. The other half was saying, No, hes been declared dead, this is purely instinct.

Kangaroo care
David and Kate were practicing what Australians call kangaroo care. Actually, it is widely practiced throughout the world, especially in poorer countries where incubators may not be available for premature babies. An infant is held skin-to-skin to their mother or father, generating heat for the newborn much like a baby kangaroo receives in its mothers pouch.
Kate had heard of kangaroo care before. [The baby] comes out of you, and all of a sudden there isnt the warmth or smell of the mother or the sound of their heartbeat. And so putting him back on my chest was as close to him being inside me where he was safe.

Jamie continued to come around as he lay across Kates chest. He began grabbing at his mothers finger, as well as his fathers. And when Kate put a dab of breast milk on her finger, Jamie eagerly accepted it.
Kate finally began to believe her baby was actually alive. We thought, Hes getting stronger hes not dead, she said. But the family wasnt getting any encouragement from their doctor. While the Oggs urged hospital personnel to summon him, they were repeatedly told what they were seeing was still just reflex from a baby already declared dead.
Kate Ogg told Curry they had to fib to get the doctor to return to her bedside. We kept saying, Hes doing things dead babies dont do, you might want to come and see this, she told Curry.
But the skeptical doctor still didn't return. So David said, Go and tell him weve come to terms with the babys death, can he just come and explain it. That made him come back.
Kate Ogg told the London Daily Mail the doctor was in disbelief when he arrived back at the bedside. He got a stethoscope, listened to Jamies chest and just kept shaking his head. He said, I dont believe it, I dont believe it.

Dr. Lisa Eiland of the Weill Cornell Medical Center in New York City told NBC News there may actually be a good grounding in science for what seemed like a miracle. Whats important is the warmth that the mother provides and the stimulation that the baby may have received from hearing the mothers heartbeat, Eiland said. So those are all things that may have helped the baby in terms of going down the path to living as opposed to the path of death.
For his part, David Ogg gives all the credit to his very strong, very smart wife for the familys now being able to enjoy raising Jamie right along with his sister Emily.
She instinctively did what she did, Ogg told The Daily Mail. If she hadnt have done that, then Jamie probably wouldnt be here.

courtesy: Msnbc.com
 

hassam

MPA (400+ posts)
Bilqul sahee

We do not have any right to send ***** of Allah to any of his creations. We should actually ask Allah to give him guidance. He is an extremely smart guy. I consider him to be one of the master pieces of Allah talah for the current generation of humans. Reason! His body is completely paralyzed and his paralysis has not come in his way of doing research and gaining knowledge. He is one of the most respected scientist of our time. What Allah wants us to learn from him? In many places in Quran and in Ahadeeth, Prophet Muhammad PBUH has emphasized the fact that the five senses that Allah has given us are such great bounties from him that if we do Ibadat our whole life we can not pay for even one of these. So imagine if a person with completely paralyzed body can do such miracles then with all the senses and completely functional body that we have what we could have achieved but we have not becuase when we have a fully functional body we indulge ourselves in trifles and waste our energies in demeaning ourselves for worthless infactuations.
 

imemyself89

MPA (400+ posts)
Religious leaders hit back at Hawking


London, England (CNN) -- Religious leaders in Britain on Friday hit back at claims by leading physicist Stephen Hawking that God had no role in the creation of the universe.
In his new book "The Grand Design," Britain's most famous scientist says that given the existence of gravity, "the universe can and will create itself from nothing," according to an excerpt published in The Times of London.
"Spontaneous creation is the reason why there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist," he wrote.
"It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper [fuse] and set the universe going."
But the head of the Church of England, the Archbishop of Canterbury Dr. Rowan Williams, told the Times that "physics on its own will not settle the question of why there is something rather than nothing."
He added: "Belief in God is not about plugging a gap in explaining how one thing relates to another within the Universe. It is the belief that there is an intelligent, living agent on whose activity everything ultimately depends for its existence."
Williams' comments were supported by leaders from across the religious spectrum in Britain. Writing in the Times, Chief Rabbi Jonathan Sacks said: "Science is about exp*****ion. Religion is about interpretation ... The Bible simply isn't interested in how the Universe came into being."
The Archbishop of Westminster Vincent Nichols, leader of the Roman Catholic Church in England and Wales, added: "I would totally endorse what the Chief Rabbi said so eloquently about the relationship between religion and science."
Ibrahim Mogra, an imam and committee chairman at the Muslim Council of Britain, was also quoted by the Times as saying: "If we look at the Universe and all that has been created, it indicates that somebody has been here to bring it into existence. That somebody is the almighty conqueror."
Hawking was also accused of "missing the point" by colleagues at the University of Cambridge in England.
"The 'god' that Stephen Hawking is trying to debunk is not the creator God of the Abrahamic faiths who really is the ultimate exp*****ion for why there is something rather than nothing," said Denis Alexander, director of The Faraday Institute for Science and Religion.
"Hawking's god is a god-of-the-gaps used to plug present gaps in our scientific knowledge.
"Science provides us with a wonderful narrative as to how [existence] may happen, but theology addresses the meaning of the narrative," he added.
Fraser Watts, an Anglican priest and Cambridge expert in the history of science, said that it's not the existence of the universe that proves the existence of God.
"A creator God provides a reasonable and credible exp*****ion of why there is a universe, and ... it is somewhat more likely that there is a God than that there is not. That view is not undermined by what Hawking has said."
Hawking's book -- as the title suggests -- is an attempt to answer "the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything," he wrote, quoting Douglas Adams' cult science fiction romp, "The Hitch-hiker's Guide to the Galaxy."
His answer is "M-theory," which, he says, posits 11 space-time dimensions, "vibrating strings, ... point particles, two-dimensional membranes, three-dimensional blobs and other objects that are more difficult to picture and occupy even more dimensions of space."
He doesn't explain much of that in the excerpt, which is the introduction to the book.
But he says he understands the feeling of the great English scientist Isaac Newton that God did "create" and "conserve" order in the universe.
It was the discovery of other solar systems outside our own in 1992 that undercut a key idea of Newton's -- that our world was so uniquely designed to be comfortable for human life that some divine creator must have been responsible.
But, Hawking argues, if there are untold numbers of planets in the galaxy, it's less remarkable that there's one with conditions for human life. And, indeed, he argues, any form of intelligent life that evolves anywhere will automatically find that it lives somewhere suitable for it.


http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/e.../index.html?hpt=T2#fbid=dnY81voCRSh&wom=false