Saudi Arabi and Iran Proxy War in Pakistan

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Baluchistan is gone out of Pakistans hands, mainly because we cannot take any concrete action against the separatists. The reason for that is the lack of security policy or anti terrorism law.


Nawaz Shareef is unable to bring about an anti terrorism law because of Saudia Arabia. He runs his business in the country. Saudia Arabia supplies money for weapons and literature to kill Shiates, not because it hates Pakistani Shiates. Saudi hates Iran and will do whatever it takes to kill shiates.

So now we have an issue where

1. TTP, Taliban, Alqueda run wild. Government cannot take action against them because of the security policy.
2. LEJ terrorists are basically a branch of Alqueda. Taking action against them means pissing off Saudi which Nawaz cannot do.
3. India would keep feeding off these baluch separatists by providing their leaders safe heaven in the UAE and then funding them with money and on ground materialistic support.

Hence ladies and gentlemen the security policy will never come about until Nawaz humbly asks Saudi and Iran to keep OUT OF Pakistan and spare us. Saudi perhaps, Nawaz might be able to convince but Iran, I do not think so because well they are Iranians and they usually do not listen to anyone. There is a reason they are isolated.

So ultimately this balloon is going to burst. If anyone thinks that a Martial Law is going to fix this then they live in a fool's paradize. Right now there IS A MARTIAL LAW in Baluchistan and this has not solved anything.

Nawaz must ask Saudi and Iran to stop fighting their wars on our turf. They need to start their war directly with each other.

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Imranpak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I stopped reading at "Balochistan has gone out of Pakistan's hands". Vast majority of Baloch is pro-Pakistani where as the few separatists who are supported by Bharat and other external sources are rightfully bitter over how they have been treated. They are frustrated and need to be handled with care. The day we have a nationalist government they will first deal with Saudi in particular.
 
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rich man

Voter (50+ posts)
Your post doesnt make sense at all. You are blaming nawaz as you are bais. What did your darling zardari did. How do you know saudi arabia is funding TTP, al qaeda when they themselves declared to overthrow arab monarch. Do you have any proof. Your post is based on hatred against saudis and pakistan army and government and mislead people.

Admin please delete this thread.
 

rich man

Voter (50+ posts)
First handle KPK and answer the jail break and get those escaped prisoners back in prison. Then talk about nationalist government.
 

hans

Banned
There are no Proxy War in Pakistan. Since Afgan war we kind of love to spill blood.

Now remember this seal. its coming to Pakistan soon.

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hans

Banned
Saudi Arabias Real Agenda for Syria

Syria is a dirty war being waged through paid-for proxies by the West and partnering Gulf monarchies.


Dont think for a moment that the US government are not involved in some way logistically or otherwise, or that the CIA and others are not working with these terrorists in Syria. At the very least, the US, UK and others have valuable military assets, special forces and trainers on the ground in Jordan and Turkey, and likely have agents operating inside Syria itself. But take a look at whos pulling the expensive strings behind the scenes thus far




According to Reuters, the Saudis appear to have offered $15 billion in weapons contracts during the July 31 meeting between Russian President Vladimir Putin and influential intelligence chief Prince Bandar bin Sultan. Russia rebuffed the offer because the Saudis deal was dependent upon Moscow dropping its arms contracts with the Assad government in Syria.
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Bush family business partner and terror financier, Prince Bandar of Saudi Arabia appears to have put all of his high cards on the table and the world can now see the agenda of the US and Saudi-led effort to destroy the country of Syria. RT reports (full story below):


Prince Bandar proposed the deal and told Putin that whatever regime comes after Assad will be completely in Riyadhs hands. The Prince reportedly stated that if the deal was accepted, Saudi Arabia would not sign any contracts damaging Russian interests by allowing Gulf countries to transport its gas across Syria to Europe.


So Saudi Arabia believes it will control the next government incarnation in Damascus, and its no mystery how they propose to do this: by throwing their oil money at them. According to the logic of Saudi Arabian elite, money can buy anything and who can argue with that? That philosophy has worked pretty well for them so far.


An initial part of the Saudi and Qatari investment in their new Syria, has been to fund its own international terrorist brigades and al Qaeda affiliates to destabilise and fracture Syrias society, economy, borders and ultimately - its culture.


Money talks, and if you have enough to burn then you tend to let everyone know youve got it, and what you can buy with it. If youve every visited a casino in London or the South of France, youd have see the casinos best clients, wealthy Gulf Arabs and Saudis, dropping hundreds of thousands, even millions in a single night, all for an expensive thrill it seems. How good a poker player is this Saudi Prince? In poker terms, hes more of a bull than a shark. Hes just showed his hand regarding Syria, and it will be interesting to see if the western media are watching the game at all.


Prince Bandar has finally revealed to the public what exactly is the underlying transnational energy agenda being played by the US, its allies in Europe, and Saudi Arabia and Qatar a gas pipeline running from the Persian Gulf, right through Syria, to the Mediterranean. This would constitute a direct supply to Europe which will give the supplier a long-term interest in Europes economic and political affairs.


Gas delivery = power and influence


The northern hemisphere countries need to not only power their grids, but also need to heat their buildings and houses during half of the year, which makes gas much more important in regional geopolitical terms than oil (oil can be sources more easily from many more different locations globally than gas).


The competition to Arab monarchies for supplying gas to Europe, is of course Russia. Russias vast gas pipeline project is already into phase two, and crosses Scandinavia right up to the UKs doorstep.


So Syrias current destiny and importance of outcome, stretches much further than its own Middle Eastern borders.
Moscow rejects Saudi offer to drop Assad for rich arms deal


RT


Moscow has said no to Saudi Arabias alleged proposal of a rich arms deal and protection of Russias gas interests in the Middle East in exchange for abandoning Syrian President Bashar Assad, according to Arab and European diplomats.


The proposal of $15 billion in weapons contracts was allegedly made during the July 31 meeting between Russian President Vladimir Putin and influential intelligence chief Prince Bandar bin Sultan, Reuters reported.


Neither Moscow nor Riyadh has officially commented on the agenda of the talks, but a Thursday AFP report revealed new details of the negotiations.


According to an undisclosed European diplomat, Prince Bandar proposed the deal and told Putin that whatever regime comes after Assad will be completely in Riyadhs hands. The Prince reportedly stated that if the deal was accepted, Saudi Arabia would not sign any contracts damaging Russian interests by allowing Gulf countries to transport its gas across Syria to Europe.


The terms included Moscow dropping its support of President Bashar Assad, as well as not opposing any future Security Council resolutions on Syria.


President Putin listened politely to his interlocutor and let him know that his country would not change its strategy, a separate Arab diplomat told AFP.


Bandar bin Sultan then told Russian officials that the only option left in Syria is a military one and that they should forget about the Geneva-2 international peace conference because the opposition would not attend, the source said. Efforts to bring about the conference which has been put forth by the US and Moscow have so far been fruitless, mainly because of the absence of unity within the opposition ranks. ..


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samy99

Minister (2k+ posts)
There is a proxy war between saudi Arabia and Iran on pak soil which is killing so many pakistanis , NS have to be blunt with both countries on this issue .
 

Humi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Saudi Arabias Real Agenda for Syria

say No to FSA and Assad both....

FSA is supported by Zionists and Saudi extremists....

Assad is supported by Russia and Irani extremists....

Neither side has the best interest for the civilians in their heart....everyone is after their own benefit....(serious)
 

Humi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
There is a proxy war between saudi Arabia and Iran on pak soil which is killing so many pakistanis , NS have to be blunt with both countries on this issue .

NS is very good buddies with SA....Its unlikely he will be blunt with them...I mean if there is a need for him to be exiled again, he is gonna need SA as an option....it is going to be very hard for him to act unbiased there...
 

Humi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Saudi Arabias Real Agenda for Syria

@KhanHaripur

I already said both sides are doing wrong...sorry, neither side deserves my support....they both have backing of foreign elements then how can they have unbiased best interest for the average civilian in their heart..
 
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farazkhii

MPA (400+ posts)
Moulana Fazal-ur-Rehman last government mein apni aik ministry isliye nahe chorhna chah raha tha takeh woh aur paise bana sake Saudia Arab se le ke. Saudia Arab usay paise sirf islye de rahe the takeh woh Pakistan mein Islamiat ki books mein unki manmani amendments kar sakay. Thats what i heard on TV.
 

KhanHaripur

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Saudi Arabias Real Agenda for Syria

I already said both sides are doing wrong...sorry, neither side deserves my support....they both have backing of foreign elements then how can they have unbiased best interest for the average civilian in their heart..
you have chosen the side of the oppressor by not supporting any side.
 

Humi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Saudi Arabias Real Agenda for Syria

you have chosen the side of the oppressor by not supporting any side.

hmm..so "either you are with us or against us"...you are free to think whatever you want...in my opinion, both are condemnable and that is what I will stick to...
 

Humi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Saudi Arabias Real Agenda for Syria

khanharipur is khawarij is jese log sirf bandook ki zubaan samjhte hein

lets not label eachother...because this way people refuse to listen to eachother even more just for the sake of it....:)