Saleem Safi nay aisa kion kia.....Jirga 23 august...azab ya azmaish???

[Salik]

If you see the Jirga of 23rd august .... where saleem safi talks to a number of scholars


http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthre...eeb-Topic-Saylab-Aft-ya-Azab&highlight=`jirga

Qazi Hussain Ahmed, Allama Sajid Meer, Mufti Muneeburrehman, Molana Sami ul Haq, Hamid Saeed Kazmi, Javed Ghamdi and all the others said this was an Azmaish...

If you see at 24 minutes.... He takes the call of Professor Tahirulqadri... and skips the question of Azab or Azmaish...Why??? IT also seems the call was from the mid.. ...

WHY???

Lets see...

A number of questions arise???

Why did he intentionally talk to only those ulemas/scholars who are either siasi, related to the media??

Why did nt he take somebody on account who doesnt have political stakes (somebody from Tanzeem e Islami/ Tableeghi Jama'at/Faizan e Madina people)

Why did he delete the first part of Prof Tahir ul Qadri's answer???????

What did he want to prove??

Kion log chahtay hain kay awam tauba na kerain... or is khayal main rahin kay asmaan say hum per Allah ka ghazab nahin rehmatain nazil ho rahi hain???

 

[shagi]

Useless thread, totally a NON-ISSUE.. No one would be intertested in this useless talk.

 

[zeeekay]

Useless thread, totally a NON-ISSUE.. No one would be intertested in this useless talk.

Nop.. It is fact..... Mostly anchors don't want people to ask for tauba... Infact they just want to create hype, make people confused and spread hopelessness..

 

[mrbaig]

Kya Tableeghi Jamat wale or Faizan e madina walon ka taaluq iss dunya sey hey???:(

 

[Salik]

Kya Tableeghi Jamat wale or Faizan e madina walon ka taaluq iss dunya sey hey???:(

Lets listen to those who do not belong to this world... :)

This is what Hafiz Akif Saeed of Tanzeem e Islami

http://www.tanzeemarchive.org/tanzeemeislami/Khitab%20e%20Juma/2010/2010-08-20.MP3

brother... the guys I suggested do not have their vested interest in getting to the positions of power and fear of loosing their audiences.....thats why I suggested the names...since they do not belong to this world and they are strangers... and they have nothing to loose.... they would give a just and correct analysis...

 

[Salik]

Useless thread, totally a NON-ISSUE.. No one would be intertested in this useless talk.

TO you it may be a non issue.... To me it IS the issue... which has brought us to this disgrace... and we have decided to close our eyes rather than facing it...

وہ ایك سجدہ جسے تو گراں سمجھتا ہے
ہزار سجدوں سے دیتا ہے آدمی كو نجات

 

[adnan78692]

Dil agar Paak Na Ho, Paak Nahi Hota Insaan
Youn To Iblees Ko B Shart-e-Wuzu Aati Hai

Dil se jab tak taoba bal k ijtemaai taoba nahi karein ge tab tak youn khud ko paak saaf samaj lene se insaan pak nahi ho jata......

 

[khan125]

Useless thread, totally a NON-ISSUE.. No one would be intertested in this useless talk.

Depends upon your priorities.............

A very important issue related to our faith and to our country's future..

 

[khan125]

Kya Tableeghi Jamat wale or Faizan e madina walon ka taaluq iss dunya sey hey???:(

yaar vo sansani kheez siasi batain nhi krtey shayad.............

 

[mrbaig]

yaar vo sansani kheez siasi batain nhi krtey shayad.............

Yeh to woh log hein jo ya to zameen sey neeche ki baat kertey hein ya phir aasman sey ooper ki.Jo kuch zameen per hey uss sey in ka koi taluq nahin.
Jub America ney Iraq per hamla kiya to uss waqt raye wind mein in ka ijtima ho raha tha.Ro ro kar inn k chehrey surkh ho gaye apne gunahon ki muafi mang mang kar,magar majal hey jo ek lafz bhi unhon ney Bughdad per barastey bamon k barey mein kaha ho.Iss per Irshad ul Haq Haqqani ney apney column mein likha tha k America walo tum musalmanon sey kyon dartey ho,yeh to wo log hein jin iss dunya sey koi taluq hi nahin,yaqeen na aaye to raye wind mein aa kar dekh lo.

 

[LeftBrain]

completely useless thread.

Why did nt he take somebody on account who doesnt have political stakes (somebody from Tanzeem e Islami/ Tableeghi Jama'at/Faizan e Madina people)

these folks doesnt qualify as Ulema to begin with. Saleem Safi spoke with people who are well known and people know them, talkim to some Tom d i ck or harry doesnt prove any point.

 

[mrbaig]

completely useless thread.

these folks doesnt qualify as Ulema to begin with. Saleem Safi spoke with people who are well known and people know them, talkim to some Tom d i ck or harry doesnt prove any point.

Right from Mufti Muneeb to Javed Ahmed Ghamdi,all were unite.What more you want?Have ever seen these religous persons unite at any topic before.

 

[Salik]

Right from Mufti Muneeb to Javed Ahmed Ghamdi,all were unite.What more you want?Have ever seen these religous persons unite at any topic before.

What I pointed out was really clear... that those he talked with with either political people or related to media... and the reason for starting this thread was also clear... that he did not include the part with Professor tahirulqadri where he asked about azaab ya azmaish? which clearly indicates that he wanted this program to be on one note....

Keeping this fact in mind... we dont know whether all the people were unanimous..... or he only asked those... who were unanimous with his assessment....

This was the purpose of this post... and this is what I wanted...

 

[Salik]

Why did nt he take somebody on account who doesnt have political stakes (somebody from Tanzeem e Islami/ Tableeghi Jama'at/Faizan e Madina people)

I dont want to comment on anybody's stature from Qazi Hussain Ahmed to Javed Ahmed Ghamdi...whom you consider Ulemas... I am too small to do that...
مگر لوگ خود سمجھ دار ہیں۔۔۔

 

[Salik]

Yeh to woh log hein jo ya to zameen sey neeche ki baat kertey hein ya phir aasman sey ooper ki.Jo kuch zameen per hey uss sey in ka koi taluq nahin.
Jub America ney Iraq per hamla kiya to uss waqt raye wind mein in ka ijtima ho raha tha.Ro ro kar inn k chehrey surkh ho gaye apne gunahon ki muafi mang mang kar,magar majal hey jo ek lafz bhi unhon ney Bughdad per barastey bamon k barey mein kaha ho.Iss per Irshad ul Haq Haqqani ney apney column mein likha tha k America walo tum musalmanon sey kyon dartey ho,yeh to wo log hein jin iss dunya sey koi taluq hi nahin,yaqeen na aaye to raye wind mein aa kar dekh lo.

To bhai jinhon nay zameen kay dermian ki baat ki kia unhon nay Americans kay haat rok liyay... Aj hum sub say pehlay pakistan ka na'ra laga ker dunya main her jaga zaleel ho rahay hain.... or wo log jo paros main Americans kay samnay kharay ho gay thay un ko zaleel ker kay waha say nikalnay walay hain...

Zameen kay neechay hum ko jana hai... or saray faislay asmaan say hotay hain....... beech main to waisay bhi sirf khail tamasha hi hai.... to kion na wahan ki baat kerain jo ziada zaroori hai...

 

[Wadaich]

@ shagi
Useless thread, totally a NON-ISSUE.. No one would be intertested in this useless talk

زائگوٹ چھتر لے کا آ جا- تیرا شکار نظر آ گیا- چانکیہ کی اولاد شاگی پھر آ گئی- ہوں رج کے چھتر مار لے

 

[rana14801]

salik the best would be u ask Saleem Safi about ur question and write down all of his reply with honesty so that we also know the facts and then we can comment rightly.

 

[Wadaich]

To bhai jinhon nay zameen kay dermian ki baat ki kia unhon nay Americans kay haat rok liyay... Aj hum sub say pehlay pakistan ka na'ra laga ker dunya main her jaga zaleel ho rahay hain.... or wo log jo paros main Americans kay samnay kharay ho gay thay un ko zaleel ker kay waha say nikalnay walay hain...

Zameen kay neechay hum ko jana hai... or saray faislay asmaan say hotay hain....... beech main to waisay bhi sirf khail tamasha hi hai.... to kion na wahan ki baat kerain jo ziada zaroori hai...

jazakallah!

 

[Salik]

salik the best would be u ask Saleem Safi about ur question and write down all of his reply with honesty so that we also know the facts and then we can comment rightly.

I emailed him the first day.... Din't get his response yet....

I respect him as a journalist to the extent of liking... specially his realistic views about my city of fights.... Karachi...

 

[mrbaig]

To bhai jinhon nay zameen kay dermian ki baat ki kia unhon nay Americans kay haat rok liyay... Aj hum sub say pehlay pakistan ka na'ra laga ker dunya main her jaga zaleel ho rahay hain.... or wo log jo paros main Americans kay samnay kharay ho gay thay un ko zaleel ker kay waha say nikalnay walay hain...

Zameen kay neechay hum ko jana hai... or saray faislay asmaan say hotay hain....... beech main to waisay bhi sirf khail tamasha hi hai.... to kion na wahan ki baat kerain jo ziada zaroori hai...

America k samney khara hona hey to itni salahiyat peda kero.Technology hasil karo yeh nahin idhar koney mein beth gaye udher koney mein beth gaye ,batein bana lein,qissey bayan ker liye or bus.Jinhen zameen sey neeche janey ka shoq ho unhey foran chaley jana chahiye.
Sub sey pehley Pakistan nahin to kya sub se aakhir Pakistan??