Reply To Ex ISI Major Nadeem Dar:One More Flop Show Against MQM دوبارہ منہ کالا

Temojin

Minister (2k+ posts)
The issue is not with MQM but the culture that MQM's elders have introduced throughout the years. It goes as simple as it should be, whether anyone denies it or not, MQM's militancy has been the worst throughout the last three decades and MQM followers themselves should put an end to it.

Don't try to deny what is out there in open but try to rectify it. I expect MQM to actually do something good than trying to defend those who have given a bad name to the word muhajir. By the by, why should I call myself a Muhajir despite my family being one? I was born here, raised and educated here and I live here, where does the word Muhajir come from now?

A few days ago, I met a very close relative of mine. I asked about loadshedding issue in Karachi, his reply was, mein jahan rehta hoon uski back pe P & T or it might be PNT colony hai, vahan loadshedding ho nahi sakti (the emphasis was ho nahi sakti) because that area belongs to MQM and they would fry people at KESC if it happens to yeh eik shakhs ka bayan hai jabke usko mere se koi mafaad bhi nahi aur na hee darr tha.

A couple of weeks ago, a relative of mine who belonged to MQM was hacked into pieces allegedly by ANP people but you know what even his family whispers that it could be upon orders from one of MQM elders to make a scene. So accept things and rectify them before its too late. Thanks.
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The issue is not with MQM but the culture that MQM's elders have introduced throughout the years. It goes as simple as it should be, whether anyone denies it or not, MQM's militancy has been the worst throughout the last three decades and MQM followers themselves should put an end to it.

Don't try to deny what is out there in open but try to rectify it.
I expect MQM to actually do something good than trying to defend those who have given a bad name to the word muhajir. By the by, why should I call myself a Muhajir despite my family being one? I was born here, raised and educated here and I live here, where does the word Muhajir come from now?

A few days ago, I met a very close relative of mine. I asked about loadshedding issue in Karachi, his reply was, mein jahan rehta hoon uski back pe P & T or it might be PNT colony hai, vahan loadshedding ho nahi sakti (the emphasis was ho nahi sakti) because that area belongs to MQM and they would fry people at KESC if it happens to yeh eik shakhs ka bayan hai jabke usko mere se koi mafaad bhi nahi aur na hee darr tha.

A couple of weeks ago, a relative of mine who belonged to MQM was hacked into pieces allegedly by ANP people but you know what even his family whispers that it could be upon orders from one of MQM elders to make a scene. So accept things and rectify them before its too late. Thanks.

1) Word MUHAJIR come from STATE by quoting them constitutionally.
When LISANI BILL introduce in SIND ASSEMBLY, by CM MUMTAZ BHUTOO in Sind 1973. Do you care, to who against that bill come, and what they were called by those who was the PIONEER of that bill.
Before that blood shed in Karachi because of supporting MUHTRMA FATIMAH JINNAH against GENERAL AYOB KHAN, started this phenomena.
But, you don't have mind but got his casing. That's why you enjoy to shot in the dark, like other.

2) Not in every area, but, MQM representative with KESC and Govt constantly try to manage.
Not like PML-N who just come on TV on talk show. MQM representatives work 24/7 not just during TV TALK SHOW.
This question should have also asked, why Karachi has been giving LIONS SHARE in revenue and get not as much which it deserve.

3) Your made hue and cry on whispers like, HAKEEM SAEED CASE and faced life time embarrassment,
Your made hue and cry on whispers on JINNAH PUR faced the faisco.
Your made hue and cry on whispers on MAJOR KALEEM, but that turn out to be fake, etc.

But, this man who became QADYANI in order to get NORWAY NATIONALITY,
becomes your beloved, because of your prejudice against MQM.
 

Temojin

Minister (2k+ posts)

1) Word MUHAJIR come from STATE by quoting them constitutionally.
When LISANI BILL introduce in SIND ASSEMBLY, by CM MUMTAZ BHUTOO in Sind 1973. Do you care, to who against that bill come, and what they were called by those who was the PIONEER of that bill.
Before that blood shed in Karachi because of supporting MUHTRMA FATIMAH JINNAH against GENERAL AYOB KHAN, started this phenomena.
But, you don't have mind but got his casing. That's why you enjoy to shot in the dark, like other.

2) Not in every area, but, MQM representative with KESC and Govt constantly try to manage.
Not like PML-N who just come on TV on talk show. MQM representatives work 24/7 not just during TV TALK SHOW.
This question should have also asked, why Karachi has been giving LIONS SHARE in revenue and get not as much which it deserve.

3) Your made hue and cry on whispers like, HAKEEM SAEED CASE and faced like time embarrassment,
Your made hue and cry on whispers on JINNAH PUR faced the faisco.
Your made hue and cry on whispers on MAJOR KALEEM, but that turn out to be fake, etc.

But, this man who became QADYANI in order to get NORWAY NATIONALITY,
becomes your beloved, because of your prejudice against MQM.

Who made hue and cry? You talking about me?

Mate, my family sacrificed more than half of its members during partition, how many did yours? I refuse to have a leadership like MQM has right now.

Har koi jaanta hai MQM leaders kitni try kerte hain ya un se dar ke sab hota hai, mere bhai as advised, accept facts and rectify them.

so long.
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Who made hue and cry? You talking about me?

Mate, my family sacrificed more than half of its members during partition, how many did yours? I refuse to have a leadership like MQM has right now.

Har koi jaanta hai MQM leaders kitni try kerte hain ya un se dar ke sab hota hai, mere bhai as advised, accept facts and rectify them.

so long.
People like you made hue and cry, on the basis of WHISPERS.

But, the man who became QADYANI in order to get NORWAY NATIONALITY, is acceptable just because of PREJUDICE against MQM.

http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/category,LEGAL,,,NOR,47975afcc,0.html

The facts as submitted by the complainant
2.1
The complainant, a retired major from the Pakistani army, is Ahmadi-Muslim.
According to a US Department of State report submitted by the complainant, Ahmadis consider themselves Muslims but do not accept that Muhammad was necessarily the last Prophet. The complainant claims that because of his religion, he had difficulties with his superiors in the army. Attempts on his life allegedly were made on several occasions.


Last year, the man who said,
he recruited 10,000 police workers non of them on MQM advice and issue 250,000 weapons licence also became your hero.
 

hans

Banned
It seems collectively we have short memory. The way Pakistan History seem to change even in my own life time seems shocking to me.

For example, we have post appearing that TTP is an CIA / RAW supported Group. Yet we all know, and its very well document. Yet there seems to be a process of pushing an ideology. If resistance showed up , give it a pause and the again give it a try.

Same here, MQM History is been pushed to the edge. Push , Push Push .. Bully your way, with your unsubstantiated rumors, repeat it to a point of such nakedness that it seems to becomes truth.

Like Ziad Hamid, he keeps pushing his sick ideology, his lies .... at the end what you get is a foggy picture in your mind of your unholy hearty desires.

If you want to discuss, Mohajirs / Punjabi relation.. we should start from ....


CONSTITUTION (SIXTEENTH AMENDMENT) ACT, 1999

1. Short title and commencement. (1)This Act may be Constitution (Sixteenth Amendment) Act. 1999. (2)It shall come into force at once.
2. Amendment of Article 27 of the Constitution.
In the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, in Article 27, in clause (1), in the first proviso for the word "twenty" the word "forty" shall be substituted and shall be deemed always to have been so substituted."

STATEMENT OF OBJECTS AND REASONS

Article 27 of the constitution provides safeguards against discrimination in services. In order to provide opportunity and representation to all classes of persons and areas in services, clause (1) of the said Article provides that for a period not exceeding twenty years from the commencing day of the constitution, certain posts may be reserved for persons belonging to any class or areas. It has been felt that since equal opportunity of education and other facilities are not yet available to all citizens of Pakistan, the period of twenty years specified in c) of Article 27 ibid be extended to forty years. The Bill seeks to achieve the aforesaid object.


For detail study go to:
http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/topic,463af2212,469f2eb02,3ae6ab4990,0,,,.html
 

Temojin

Minister (2k+ posts)
People like you made hue and cry, on the basis of WHISPERS.

But, the man who became QADYANI in order to get NORWAY NATIONALITY, is acceptable just because of PREJUDICE against MQM.

Last year, the man who said,
he recruited 10,000 police workers non of them on MQM advice and issue 250,000 weapons licence also became your hero.

I didn't say his becoming quadiani was acceptable. I condemn each individual who goes with this kind of benefit-seeking mentality.

You didn't answer my question, how many did your family sacrifice during partition? I know you won't because it wasn't the case so leave it, will not answer now as MQM or any other party has followers which are not prone to listening to anything.
 

CA 5 O

Senator (1k+ posts)
Reply To Ex ISI Major Nadeem Dar:
One More Flop Show Against MQM ?????? ??? ????



Jo batein usne ki, uske jawab dene ki bajaye ilzam dar ilzam..., uska Norway ki nationality leney ke liye Khud ko qadiyani kehna uski baaton ka jawab nahin. Le ker jao usko adaalat mein agar woh jhoota hai. Usne open challenge kiya hay.

Waise, Altaf ne kiya keh ke UK ki citizenship li?
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I didn't say his becoming quadiani was acceptable. I condemn each individual who goes with this kind of benefit-seeking mentality.

You didn't answer my question, how many did your family sacrifice during partition? I know you won't because it wasn't the case so leave it, will not answer now as MQM or any other party has followers which are not prone to listening to anything.

1) From my family, none. So what. What is the significance in it? But, my family came from INDIA. Some went to EAST PAKISTAN (Bangladesh).
Some came just before the fall. In fact, my mother came to Pakistan, on the last flight of PIA from DHAKA. Because, he was married at that time, and my FATHER was in Karachi. But, all his brothers and a sister , with PARENTS were in EAST PAKISTAN (BANGLADESH). My Grand Mother was literally used to run on the street like a crazy woman, when his three son was taken, and no one knew, where they went. Luckily, all of them come alive. But, people with them also faced death. Every one was Ok, after that, but this incident had a huge impact on the personality of his elder son.

2) If he was a QADYANI, that's wouldn't be an issue.
He became QADYANI just to get NATIONALITY OF NORWAY, that's the issue.
He is just another person, who is trying to PURGE himself through MQM.
Like many did before. He understands the Psychology of People of Pakistan.
Like Zulfiqar Mirza did, Like Imran did, Like Zaid Hamid did, etc.
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Jo batein usne ki, uske jawab dene ki bajaye ilzam dar ilzam..., uska Norway ki nationality leney ke liye Khud ko qadiyani kehna uski baaton ka jawab nahin. Le ker jao usko adaalat mein agar woh jhoota hai. Usne open challenge kiya hay.

Waise, Altaf ne kiya keh ke UK ki citizenship li?


Not the first time these type of allegation on MQM. From establishment to NAWAZ SHARIF.
From PPP to Imran, every one tested in PAKISTAN and UK. What is the out come of all the effort?

Recently, your beloved Zulfiqar Mirza went to UK, with the same allegation.
What happened then?
When SCOTLAND YARD asked him, from where you get these proofs against, him?
His stupid reply was, he purchased. SCOTLAND YARD was stunned, the man who was the DE FACTO CM of Sind is saying so.
Zulfiqar Mirza didn't go to Pakistan Judiciary, but choose SCOTLAND YARD. But, faced life time embarrassment.



 

nasirzaman

Senator (1k+ posts)
Jo batein usne ki, uske jawab dene ki bajaye ilzam dar ilzam..., uska Norway ki nationality leney ke liye Khud ko qadiyani kehna uski baaton ka jawab nahin. Le ker jao usko adaalat mein agar woh jhoota hai. Usne open challenge kiya hay.

Waise, Altaf ne kiya keh ke UK ki citizenship li?

AGER IS MAJOR KE PASS SABOOT HEN TO YEH KHUD ADALAT KIO NAHI JATA IS KO KIS NE ROKA HAI :lol::lol: YAH YEH BHI IMRAN KHAN OR MIRZA WALI HERKAT KER RAHA HAI MASHOORI KE LEYE:lol::lol:[hilar]
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Baray dino baad nazar aaye :) Welcome back!

Yaar!!!
My post is not on the forum immediately, like old days.
Now, when I post, first it is moderated than it appear on the forum. I don't know, why my post need to be moderated.
My record is very crystal clear, never use abusive, filthy, obscene remarks.

Which is very irritating for me.
That's why I was away, and may be in near future I'll do the same.
 
Please read yourself the United Nation decision, which I already have won
http://www.unhchr.ch/tbs/doc.nsf/(Symbol)/1b6a8af4890e3b99c1257305004a63ee?Opendocument


Matter of Common Sense:


How I could have won the case in United Nation, if I could have made a little wrong statement, since they have many means to find the truth. So, what was the aim of a very responsible Minister of Pakistan Baber Ghaori to make wrong statement? Was it to defame me or to turn the thinking of people away from the questions I asked?


Remember that no one ever has won the case in United Nation and now my case is being used as reference in the law books. My case was also presented in the General Assembly of United Nation.


I really feel sorry, once people still believe our politicians and even so called very liberal and educated minister on MQM. I would request you all to read, the document, Baber Ghaori reffered and then make decision, which is wrong or right.


Now I will refer the asylum cases of MQM people, who went to Canada or USA or even UK. Many of MQM people changed their religious belief to Ahmadiyya, after their real case was rejected i.e. Safdar Baqri applied asylum in Canada and his case was rejected, as MQM was declared as terrorist http://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/en/2001/2001fct1096/2001fct1096.html


So, please read everything and then make the decision. Now MQM lovers should investigate, on what issue Baqri lives in foreign country, as MQM worker or by changing his religious belief.



I still need the answers to my questions, where as I proved my truthiness on the allegation Baber Ghaori made.
 
Please read yourself the United Nation decision, which I already have won
http://www.unhchr.ch/tbs/doc.nsf/(Symbol)/1b6a8af4890e3b99c1257305004a63ee?Opendocument

Matter of Common Sense:

How I could have won the case in United Nation, if I could have made a little wrong statement, since they have many means to find the truth. So, what was the aim of a very responsible Minister of Pakistan Baber Ghaori to make wrong statement? Was it to defame me or to turn the thinking of people away from the questions I asked?

Remember that no one ever has won the case in United Nation and now my case is being used as reference in the law books. My case was also presented in the General Assembly of United Nation.

I really feel sorry, once people still believe our politicians and even so called very liberal and educated minister on MQM. I would request you all to read, the document, Baber Ghaori reffered and then make decision, which is wrong or right.

Now I will refer the asylum cases of MQM people, who went to Canada or USA or even UK. Many of MQM people changed their religious belief to Ahmadiyya, after their real case was rejected i.e. Safdar Baqri applied asylum in Canada and his case was rejected, as MQM was declared as terrorist http://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/en/2001/2001fct1096/2001fct1096.html

So, please read everything and then make the decision. Now MQM lovers should investigate, on what issue Baqri lives in foreign country, as MQM worker or by changing his religious belief.

I still need the answers to my questions, where as I proved my truthiness on the allegation Baber Ghaori made.
 

onlykami

MPA (400+ posts)
Ae Altaf tjhay bhi aek na aek din mout aaigi tum kya samajhtay ho k england main mout ka farishta nahi asakta, akhirat walay din sab doodh ka doodh aur pani ka pani ho jaiga yahan tu teray chamchay hain wahan mera RAB hoga faisla karnay kalya
 

noman3000

Senator (1k+ posts)
Yaar!!!
My post is not on the forum immediately, like old days.
Now, when I post, first it is moderated than it appear on the forum. I don't know, why my post need to be moderated.
My record is very crystal clear, never use abusive, filthy, obscene remarks.

Which is very irritating for me.
That's why I was away, and may be in near future I'll do the same.
It happens with me too but I can understand it for myself. But for u, it's not good thing bcoz I have never find any of ur posts abusive, maybe bcoz u r anti PTI that's y ur posts need to be moderated first. Anyways, keep exposing munafiqs..
 

CA 5 O

Senator (1k+ posts)


Not the first time these type of allegation on MQM. From establishment to NAWAZ SHARIF.
From PPP to Imran, every one tested in PAKISTAN and UK. What is the out come of all the effort?

Recently, your beloved Zulfiqar Mirza went to UK, with the same allegation.
What happened then?
When SCOTLAND YARD asked him, from where you get these proofs against, him?
His stupid reply was, he purchased. SCOTLAND YARD was stunned, the man who was the DE FACTO CM of Sind is saying so.
Zulfiqar Mirza didn't go to Pakistan Judiciary, but choose SCOTLAND YARD. But, faced life time embarrassment.




First of all, zulfiqar Mira is a racist prick. Secondly, and the most important thing is that MQM is a terrorist organization.

You see, a lot of times, specially when career criminals and gangs are involved, sometimes its hard to prove a case against them in courts due to extortion, threats etc etc. but the reality still doesnt change. A terrorist organization is still a terrorist organization. Like hells angels in north America and far worse, Mqm in Paksitan.

Once we have a proper system of justice, trust me, and you all know that the terrorists will be brought to justice, no matter what party they belong to.
 

CA 5 O

Senator (1k+ posts)
AGER IS MAJOR KE PASS SABOOT HEN TO YEH KHUD ADALAT KIO NAHI JATA IS KO KIS NE ROKA HAI :lol::lol: YAH YEH BHI IMRAN KHAN OR MIRZA WALI HERKAT KER RAHA HAI MASHOORI KE LEYE:lol::lol:[hilar]

Mujhe is major ka tou nahi pata ke kitna authentic hai magar aik baat tou authentic hai aur sab jaatey hain, mqm is a terrorist organization aur zulm ka nizam end ko pohnchta zaroor hai aur woh waqt ab bohut Nazdeek hai, Insha Allah.
 
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